Thu
Oct 12 2006
10:35 pm

Was looking at "Open Secrets" tonight and came across this page.

What the heck is the Memphis school system doing on Corker's donor list?

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moderatetrueview's picture

Agreed, WTF is going on????

WTF???? and again, WTF???? I am not stunned by the donation going to Corker, okay I'm a little stunned. If you had asked a blind questions I would have guessed Ford but again, WTF is any school donating money to a political campaign. How many times a week do we hear about schools in need of money, running over budget, low on supplies, poorly payed teachers, understaffed, I can go on and on. Giving money away when it is desparatly needed to educate is a dumb as.... Hell I can't campare it cause it's as dumb as it gets. To top it off they bet on the wrong guy. Where is the sence in throwing away $16,000. If they were going to give money away (which they shouldn't) they should have at least waited till closer to the election to see who had the advantage. Poor guys. What a waiste.

Anonymous's picture

I'm pretty sure the

I'm pretty sure the corporations represent the corporate affiliations of contributors. So Corker received the money from employees of the Memphis City scool system which I find unexpected...

Tiny Tim's picture

Memphis City Schools have never been Ford fans

this stems from the days in which Willie Herenton ran the Memphis School System. He's now mayor of memphis, which is self explanatory.

traditionally there have been divisions between Herenton and Ford camps, particularly in statewide elections, primarily over who will be the point of contact for the political community called memphis. from time to time Herenton has supported Republican candidates, however, this time, he may not be in a position to as if Jr. is not elected a Ford may come after Big Willie next year.

SayUncle's picture

Meanwhile, all those big

Meanwhile, all those big corporations and bankers are giving to Ford. Don't they know they're big business and should be in league with those evil, capitalist, working-man-stomping, greedy Republicans?

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Andy Axel's picture

Even evil, capitalist,

Even evil, capitalist, working-man-stomping, greedy Republicans know when they're backing a loser.

(Still feeling confident on your stake in our beer wager, Unc?)

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SayUncle's picture

'Republicans know when

'Republicans know when they're backing a loser.'

Sorry but let's spell it out. Corker sucks. He was not ready for prime time. He's a piss poor candidate. He doesn't speak well. He's mechanical. He's a pussy. In short, he's not very senatorial.

Ford, with maybe the exception of being pussy, is the opposite. He's sharp, carries himself well, and is absolutely the better politician.

But the best Ford can do is pull within margin of error?

It's more a testament to the power of party than anything else. The GOP in TN could probably nominate an adulterous, gay atheist who was caught on tape strangling puppies and still keep it within margin of error.

"Still feeling confident on your stake in our beer wager, Unc?"

Ayup. haven't lost one yet (at least when it comes to politics).

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Andy Axel's picture

The GOP in TN could probably

The GOP in TN could probably nominate an adulterous, gay atheist who was caught on tape strangling puppies and still keep it within margin of error.

I don't know about that, but if Kitten Killer Frist hadn't been suffering delusions of 2008 presidential grandeur before he started feeling around in the dark for his blind trust (yeah right) and giving sunny neurological diagnoses via archival video feed, I'd probably have to concede the point. (I'll bet Frist is kicking himself, regardless. Self-imposed term limits are a terrible idea politically.)

But Bob Corker loves his momma. How sweet.

I'll tell ya, honestly, I didn't think Croaker was such a bad bet for the GOP. I've met him, briefly. I worked with some of his staff for a while on a cooperative project with ORNL. I thought that the economic and cultural renewal in Chattanooga was demonstrably visible and at least partially attributable to his stewardship.

I just didn't think he'd try to coast for the first month coming off the primary.

It's more a testament to the power of party than anything else.

Are you referring to that "power of party" that put the ineffective squeeze on Van Hilleary?

Har de har har. God love the Van Wagon...

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SayUncle's picture

'Are you referring to that

'Are you referring to that "power of party" that put the ineffective squeeze on Van Hilleary?'

If people weren't so mad at sundquist, it'd Van up for reelection now.

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Andy Axel's picture

Ifs, buts, candy, nuts. You

Ifs, buts, candy, nuts. You know the drill.

Sundquist doesn't really help your case any vis-a-vis "power of party," by the way.

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SayUncle's picture

How? It was still a 51-48%

How? It was still a 51-48% race (margin of error).

'Ifs, buts, candy, nuts.'

Well, yeah. Of course, if Van was governor, then it'd be bryant v. ford ;)

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Andy Axel's picture

Game of "If"

If Gore's campaign had poured $40 million into winning Tennessee, no one would give a crap how many elderly Jews voted for Pat Buchanan, this country would have spent $1 trillion dollars much more wisely, and the most important thing George W. Bush would be effing up would be his rotisserie league.

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Eleanor A's picture

What Andy said, pretty much

You're kidding us, right, Unc?

Let's hear you justify the laundry list:

* Dem governor
* Majority of state House = Dems
* What's it, a 2-seat margin in the Senate? In a Presidential year in which the national Dem Party siphoned money out of here like crazy to send to Florida?
* Majority of Congressional seats = Dems

You just don't have a case here. Everyone's using the Presidentials from 2000 and 2004 to claim TN is some blood-red juggernaut, but the facts are that the national DNC Did. Not. Spend. One. Cent. Here. Either of those years.

You think Ford should be doing better, when he's got these issues against him:

* His race - in the South? Which has never - not one time in 150 years - elected a black man (much less woman) to the U.S. Senate?
* His family's political difficulties? Look, we all know they exist - and Ford has completely made them a nonissue.
* Bill Frist pouring money in here like Budweiser down his kid's throat?

News flash: Bill Frist is a major player in the Bush Administration. He is doing everything he can to hold this seat for the GOP. You can pretend that's nothing all you want, but Valerie Plame, Michael Schiavo, a slew of disenfranchised voters in Ohio, and any other benefactors of GOP shenanigans would tell you differently.

You think Phil Bredesen's the governor because people were mad at Sundquist - not because Van Hilleary's a lunatic?? Oh man. This is getting entertaining.

SayUncle's picture

Eleanor, There is a huge

Eleanor,

There is a huge difference in state races v. the federal races. Our democrats aren't exactly blue, once you look past the capital letter after their name.

"His race - in the South? Which has never - not one time in 150 years - elected a black man (much less woman) to the U.S. Senate?"

Really? Yeah, that was back before senators were popularly elected.

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Andy Axel's picture

I Call "Scoreboard"

How? It was still a 51-48% race (margin of error).

Baloney.

Margin of error only applies to statistical samples. ("Error" is considered such because you're sampling only a percentage of the population to extrapolate a probable outcome, and your extrapolation has some built-in over/under deviation.)

An election, rather, is an exact tally of how each participant rates its choice. So you know the entire population, you're not guessing some p-value based on squared sigmas and variances and skew and sampling error in the i-th confidence interval and crap like that. On election day, it's a tally. It's not a prediction of how many coin tosses will come up heads in the next 50 flips.

A single vote in an election is statistically significant, as opposed to polls, where you're picking randomized samples to represent the whole.

Or are you saying that the outcome of the election of 2002 -- which saw Phil Bredesen elected -- was attributable to some freak statistical anomaly rather than the will of the voters?

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SayUncle's picture

No, I'm saying the results

No, I'm saying the results of the election were still close and were within the typical margin of error of polls (which, iirc, was +- 4%)

In other words, for all hilleary's hooey, the election wasn't a blow out.

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Nelle's picture

Let's not denigrate pussies, OK?

Everybody loves pussies.

Most everybody, at least.  

Eleanor A's picture

You think

Herenton is going to try to suppress the vote? I admit the thought has crossed my mind...

Anonymous's picture

one hundred percent correct.

one hundred percent correct. the memphis city schools amount is the amount donated by individual employees of the school system who put it down as their employer.

lovable liberal's picture

Speaking of open secrets...

On the very same page:

HOW TO READ THIS CHART: This chart lists the top donors to each candidate so far in the current election cycle. The organizations themselves did not donate, rather the money came from the organization's PAC, its individual members or employees or owners, and those individuals' immediate families.


Liberty and justice for all.

moderatetrueview's picture

Hey Unky Sam take a look at the states facts

I would like to remind all of those who claim this state is red to look at the states historical facts when it comes to election. The following is an article I posted on my site (link...)

One must remember a TN democrat is not the same as a NY democrat but they still carry the "D" and historicaly moderate dems get overwhelming support in this state. Ford is a Moderate Democrat. Look to see in in the Senate come Nov.

The media seems to forget that TN historically went Democratic in elections prior to "W." We have a Democratic Governor and a State Democratic Congress. one must remember, 43% of voters in TN sided with Kerry in the last election. The moderates independents, and some democrats sided with Bush because of the view that the war was his to fix. Soccer moms and single women statistically support democrats including here in TN. The last elections saw the shift because of Clinton’s affair belief that Republicans would keep us safer. The debate as to who would keep us safer has shifted from Democrats to Republicans. In a poll released today, 57% said Democrats would keep us safer vs. 41% for Republicans. We must not fear the Republican party coming out to vote. They have always come out to vote. The issue has been the Democrats not coming out to vote. Both Parties have their bases that give them their automatic 34-37 % of support and will vote the party line regardless. The ones who will change this election are the moderates and independents. It always comes down to these voters. Don’t buy into the medias hoopla about evangelicals staying home and shifting the election. These voters are part of the automatic 34-37% and will not alter the election.
Conservative Democrats have thrived in this state over the years, a shift that we see re-emerging when it comes to national politics. One must remember. In 2000 Gore lost this state because he took it for granted. He assumed he would get the vote since it was his home state. Clinton's romantic escapades did not sit well with Conservative Democrats nor the woman voters. That loss of support is what swung the election. This state is more democratic than the media leads you to believe. Look at the facts.

Historical Facts:

Governor
McCord (1945-49) D
Browning (1949-53) D
Clement (1953-59) D
Ellington (1959-63) D
Clement (1963-67) D
Ellington (1967-71) D
Dunn (1971-75) R
Blanton (1975-79) D
Alexander (1979-87) R
McWherter (1987-95) D
Sundquist (1995-2003) R
Bredesen (2003- ) D

Senate Seat A
Stewart (1943-49) D
Kefauver (1949-63) D
Walters (1964) D
Bass (1965-67) D
Baker (1967-1985) R
Gore Jr. (1985-93) D
Mathews (1993-1995) D – Gore appointed Vice President, Democratic stalwart Harlan Matthews is appointed by McWherter to the unexpired term and doesn't run in 1994.
Thompson (1995-2003) R – the famous actor, likable guy
Alexander (2003- ) R - Alexander, who hadn't won an election in 20 years, earns the Republican nomination as a moderate, besting Congressman Ed Bryant, a hard-line conservative

Senate Seat B
McKellar (1917-53) D
Gore Sr. (1953-71) D
Brock (1971-77) R
Sasser (1977-95) D
Frist (1995- ) R – Retiring to run for President in 2008

Plane and simple, Tennessee is blue. Scandals and a war is what changed the trend, but only temporarily as voters voted against the party, not because they changed parties.

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