Wed
Oct 11 2006
07:19 pm

Last week it was House of Representative Minority Leader Dennis Hastert in a ethically-challenged land deal. This week the AP is asking questions about a Las Vegas land deal involving Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid.

Land deeds obtained by The Associated Press during a review of Reid's business dealings show:

_The deal began in 1998 when Reid bought undeveloped residential property on Las Vegas' booming outskirts for about $400,000. Reid bought one lot outright, and a second parcel jointly with Brown. One of the sellers was a developer who was benefiting from a government land swap that Reid supported. The seller never talked to Reid.

_In 2001, Reid sold the land for the same price to a limited liability corporation created by Brown. The senator didn't disclose the sale on his annual public ethics report or tell Congress he had any stake in Brown's company. He continued to report to Congress that he personally owned the land.

_After getting local officials to rezone the property for a shopping center, Brown's company sold the land in 2004 to other developers and Reid took $1.1 million of the proceeds, nearly tripling the senator's investment. Reid reported it to Congress as a personal land sale.

Reid hung up on the AP reporter.

Andy Axel's picture

Land deal, schmand deal. Did

Land deal, schmand deal.

Did he get a b.j. from an intern?

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Socialist With A Gold Card's picture

Nice try

Some more details about this non-story:

A single member LLC (i.e. an LLC owned 100% by a single person) is treated by the IRS as non-existent for tax purposes. The LLC owner continues to treat himself as the direct owner of the property for tax purposes as if the property were never transferred to the LLC. That could explain why someone might continue to consider himself the owner of property which he has transferred to a single member LLC.

A multiple member LLC is treated as a partnership for tax purposes. Again, if an existing partnership transfers property to an LLC owned by the same partners in the same percentages, the LLC will usually be treated as the same entity as the orignal partnership, and again an individual might reasonably believe that no transfer has taken place.

And this:

He disclosed his ownership of the land -- down to the exact plots -- which would allow for watchdogs to monitor any potential conflicts of interest. That is better than disclosing ownership in a shadowy private LLC, with no public access to its assets. (Which is, btw, essentially what Hastert did.)

And finally:

But watch the wingers and GOP try to gain traction off this story to divert from their coddling of a sexual predator.

Sorry, Les. Close, but no Wee-Oh.

--Socialist With A Gold Card


"I'm a socialist with a gold card. I firmly believe we need a revolution; I'm just concerned that I won't be able to get good moisturizer afterwards." --Brett Butler

 

Nelle's picture

But, but, but

the media desperately need to say "but it's not just the Republicans doing bad stuff."

Except it pretty much is. Hence, Reid's land deal.  

Yashko's picture

This is absurdity at the

This is absurdity at the worst. Reid was the owner of a single member LLC, which held title to the land. He capitalized the LLC by transferring title to the land to the LLC. During the entire time, Reid listed the land as an asset on his Senate disclosure forms, because, as the sole member of an LLC, he did own the land. And of course he took the profits, because he was the owner of the LLC that owned the land.

If the AP reporter was not bright enough to figure that out, he deserved to be hung up on. And anybody who is not bright enough to see what is going on here should not be allowed to operate heavy machinery, much less cast a ballot or run a blog.

WhitesCreek's picture

Les is misleading us. here's

Les is misleading us. here's the real deal:

 I have several LLC's regarding  land deals, but I still own the land. And there was no improper conduct, Les. Give it up. Republicans are crooks through and through, and while democrats have their rotten eggs, it is not the way of life.

Les Jones's picture

Well, that's odd

So last week a post a link from my blog and this one about Republican Hastert's hinky deal (see above), based on a report in TNR via Kevin Drum. Comments? Zero.

Tonight a post a link from by blog and this one about Democrat Harry Reid's hinky land deal, based on a report from the AP. Comments? Five in a couple of hours:

Les is misleading us

(Quoting dailykos) But watch the wingers and GOP try to gain traction off this story to divert from their coddling of a sexual predator.

Sorry, Les. Close, but no Wee-Oh.

The media desperately need to say "but it's not just the Republicans doing bad stuff." Except it pretty much is. Hence, Reid's land deal. 

BTW, who says the impropriety was in the LLC and reporting?  From the AP story: "One of the sellers was a developer who was benefiting from a government land swap that Reid supported." Are we sure Reid didn't get a sweetheart deal - "you scratch my back, I'll scratch yours?" Is that inconceivable because he has a D after his name? Harry Reid was also one of the guys mixed up with Jack Abramoff and his tribal money, according to the Washington Post.

Here's a better question. Are you against crooked politicians or are you just against Republicans?


Hey, Les, why don't we just call each other assholes and get it over with. - Somebody on the old Southknoxbubba.net (if that was you, claim your quote and win net.fame!)

Socialist With A Gold Card's picture

Hinkiness

Maybe nobody commented on Hastert's "hinky" land deal because it was clearly "hinky," and nobody felt the need to elaborate any further on the obvious "hinkiness" of it. Reid's land deal seems non-"hinky," and the suggestion that there's a parallel required comment. It's pretty simple, really.

If Reid's land deal does in fact turn out to be as "hinky" as Hastert's, then there'll be plenty of opportunity for appropriate scorn, ridicule, and righteous indignation. At the moment, however, the GOP pretty much has a monopoly on evil in this country. Things do change, but right now that's where it stands.

Here's a better question. Are you against crooked politicians or are you just against Republicans?

I'm against both, actually. Crooked pols of any party are the scum of the Earth, and so are Republicans. The Reid story, however, is a red herring.

--Socialist With A Gold Card


"I'm a socialist with a gold card. I firmly believe we need a revolution; I'm just concerned that I won't be able to get good moisturizer afterwards." --Brett Butler

 

Les Jones's picture

From the "famous last words" file

So I sez "Are you against crooked politicians or are you just against Republicans?"

And then metulj, he sez "Distinction without a difference."

Someone's going to be knocking on wood from now until election day.


Hey, Les, why don't we just call each other assholes and get it over with. - Somebody on the old Southknoxbubba.net (if that was you, claim your quote and win net.fame!)

rikki's picture

drain the swamp

Even if Reid is not hiding ownership, profiting from government land swaps is exactly the sort of thing government officials should not be doing. Corruption should be weeded out wherever it grows.

mpower1952's picture

Instapundit debunks Reid smear

(link...)

Be a blessing to someone today.

Les Jones's picture

He debunked part of the tax

He debunked part of the tax angle, then this morning he links to this Captains Quarters post with more info about the land deal above, and a second deal:

The story of Coyote Springs sounds like a Horatio Alger story. The land Whittemore bought in 1998 from a defense contractor who intended on using it for target practice had a number of restrictions on its use. A quarter of it was subject to a federal power-line right of way. Another quarter had federal protection for the desert tortoise, an endangered species that also is Nevada's official state reptile. The land had a fragile series of streams and washes that required special permission on which to build without ruining the desert's ecosystem.

None of these obstacles proved too difficult for Whittemore, at least not while he had his friend Harry Reid running interference in Congress. Interior refused to relocate the tortoises for over five years, until the Bureau of Land Management agreed to swap the land for another parcel abutting a federal preserve elsewhere. No one ever did an analysis to determine whether the deal was fair to either party, nor did the BLM go to Congress for approval on the changes to a project that Congress had explicitly legislated.

In 2002, Reid worked on the power corridor. He inserted obscure provisions into a land management bill that relocated the power corridor, freeing Whittemore to build on the 10,500 acres that Congress had previously held -- which means that someone else now had to lose property value for Whittemore's benefit, and for no cost whatsoever. That bald move caused raised eyebrows at the BLM and the Senate's Energy and Natural Resources Committee, and Reid backed away -- for the moment. Less than two years later, Reid tried again to give Whittemore the land for a song ($160,000), but Congress balked again. He finally settled for freeing the land for development and allowing Whittemore to buy it at a fair market rate, and forcing the government to relocate the power corridor.

In 2005, Reid and fellow Nevada Senator John Ensign conducted a series of interventions with the EPA to eliminate the final obstacle -- the environmental impact on the fragile ecosystem in Coyote Springs Valley. When the agency blocked Whittemore's efforts, Reid and Ensign held several meetings with EPA officials to pressure them into submission. Whittemore used another Reid son, Lief, to lobby his father's office for assistance. In the end, the pressure paid off, as the EPA backed down from its opposition after winning a few concessions on the development plan.

What did Reid get in exchange for all of this support? According to the Times, Whittemore contributed $45,000 to Reid and his PACs since 2000. He also gave the DSCC $20,000 in 2000, when it pushed Reid as a leader for the party in the Senate. Reid's son Josh got $5,000 for his unsuccessful campaign for a city council seat; his other son Rory got $5,000 for his successful effort to win a spot on the Clark County Board of Commissioners.


Hey, Les, why don't we just call each other assholes and get it over with. - Somebody on the old Southknoxbubba.net (if that was you, claim your quote and win net.fame!)

WhitesCreek's picture

Does this mean, Les, that

Does this mean, Les, that you are voting against every politician who used his office to swing a favorable land deal for himself?

 Excellent...The Ford Campaign welcomes you.

gttim's picture

IOKIYAAR

Does this mean, Les, that you are voting against every politician who used his office to swing a favorable land deal for himself?

 Excellent...The Ford Campaign welcomes you.

No, he is only voting against Democrats who swing a favorable land deal for themselves. I got the same problem with the wingnuts in Georgia after Governor Sonny Perdue not only did a land deal, but signed a very narrow retroactive law that gave himself a $100,000 tax cut/windfall.

I laughed when I read your comment, however!

SayUncle's picture

'So last week a post a link

'So last week a post a link from my blog and this one about Republican Hastert's hinky deal (see above), based on a report in TNR via Kevin Drum. Comments? Zero.'

Well, duh, this is their guy. Say, if Hastert had hung up on a reporter, you think it would have just been mentioned in passing?

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SayUncle
Can't we all just get a long gun?

WhitesCreek's picture

After checking around, I

After checking around, I don't think hanging up on John Solomon is the same thing as hanging up on a reporter. His numbers are as wrong as his premise.

So far, it looks like Reid did what a competent CPA would tell him to do and made a profit on some real estate he purchased with a partner. That's what investors are supposed to do.

I can't find anything that looks like an impropriety in this, particularly when compared to Corker's deal with the Wal-Mart property. That one stinks!

SayUncle's picture

"So far, it looks like Reid

"So far, it looks like Reid did what a competent CPA would tell him to do and made a profit on some real estate he purchased with a partner."

On that, I agree.

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SayUncle
Can't we all just get a long gun?

rikki's picture

huh?

I can't find anything that looks like an impropriety in this, particularly when compared to Corker's deal with the Wal-Mart property.

You can't be serious. The impropriety is in the government machinations that made the land more valuable. This deal has many parallels to the Corker/WalMart deal, except it involves vastly more acreage and at least one endangered species.

We don't need anyone in Congress with any letter, number, glyph or punctuation mark next to his name who strong arms BLM so he and partner can profit. Les is not the one being partisan here. 

WhitesCreek's picture

This deal has many parallels

This deal has many parallels to the Corker/WalMart deal, except it involves vastly more acreage and at least one endangered species.

You know something I don't, if that's true. give me a link...The dollar amount seems fairly small to me. Still, I'm interested if there's some impropriety.

 

Steve

rikki's picture

Don't ask me for a link, I'm

Don't ask me for a link, I'm reacting to that long passage excerpted in Les' post. He provided a link.

Are you really surprised that Reid might be feathering his own nest? At least 70% of Congress must be nervous right now. Is it even possible to have a political career and be capable of raising the money needed to win a federal office without cavorting with sleazy developers? A Congressman's vulnerability is corruption is more a function of being a Congressman than of whether he is a member of the party out to destroy America or the other one.

And let that be a lesson to the "dime of difference" panty-wastes: I can tell the difference. 

WhitesCreek's picture

Rikki,Obtaining a zoning

Rikki,

Obtaining a zoning change is a public process, which is what the managing partner of Reid's LLC did. The Knox News article on this is riddled with false information, btw. How can they stand themselves?

Personally signing over the City's wetland's conservation easement on a piece of property you yourself own, which is what Corker did as Mayor, is a dastardly self serving act.

 

rikki's picture

A zoning change? You call

A zoning change? You call swapping 10,000 acres of desert tortoise habitat for adjacent acreage and rerouting a power corridor in an obscure rider on a federal bill a zoning change?

 

Sven's picture

Someone made money on Vegas

Someone made money on Vegas real estate? Lody me!

But seriously, we should all applaud diligent oversight of politicians conflicts of interest, regardless of party. The Sunlight Foundation, which broke the Hastert story in June has been doing a bang-up job, and it'll be interesting to see what they say about Reid.

That said, a few observations are in order:

  • John Solomon is a twerp. His stories are riddled with factual errors. He doesn't get 6 words into this one without making a whopper.
  • It may because it was filtered through Soloman's pea-sized brain, but the backscratching scheme chain of custody reads like Dark Helmet's speech to Lone Starr in SpaceBalls: "I am your father's brother's nephew's cousin's former room-mate!"
  • Trying to balance Reid's indiscretions with Hastert's is like equating speeding with manslaughter. Or Howard Dean's ill-tempered, ill-considered outbursts with Ken Mehlman giving multiple reach-arounds to Jack Abramoff (knocking Dean for not rasing as much money as GOP K-Street prostitutes is a nice touch, though).

 

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