In case you missed it, Republican Knox Co. Commissioner and KPD Lt. Brad Anders was one of several KPD officers disciplined earlier this week in relation to the brutal beating of a suspect.

Knoxville News Sentinel:

At an afternoon news conference at KPD’s Moses Center training facility, Rausch announced disciplinary action taken against those four officers as well as against three supervisors — Capt. Eve Thomas, Lt. Brad Anders and Sgt. John Shelton — who approved what turned out to be deceitful use of force reports without having viewed what Rausch deemed the most incriminating video of at least four cameras rolling that day. Thomas received an oral reprimand, while Anders and Shelton received written reprimands.

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Verax's picture

Brad Anders

I can't figure out why none of the media coverage of this case highlighted the fact that a sitting Knox Co.Commissioner with well known plans to run for Sheriff was officially disciplined in a major major police brutality incident that's going to cost taxpayers a bundle because the man who was threatened with rape and had his ribs broken and his lung punctured is going to sue.It seems like that part of this story is one worth looking into on its own. In the KNS story that briefly mentions Anders' involvement,it doesn't even identify him as a Knox County Commissioner.WTH?

The story says that he approved what turned out to be purposely deceitful and misleading reports from the officers who beat up the man and also who watched and tried to cover up without ever even bothering to view the dashcam videos that as we know now caught most of the beating on tape. The same story said that Anders was issued a written reprimand which means his actions were deemed more serious than the supervisor who only got an oral reprimand.

Commissioner Anders needs to be asked to provide the details of his involvement in this situation so that the public knows whether to demand censure by County Commission or even resignation. Why was his discipline harsher than the other police supervisor? Did he have reason to believe that the dashcam videos would show something other than what the falsified reports showed or did he get the reports having no information that would cause him to doubt them? If it's the former, he was trying to cover up. If it's the second, he may just have been lazy and not following procedure.

Chief Raush has stated that more officers may be charged in this brutality case. Someone needs to get Anders to answer to the voters about his involvement. What Anders has been displined for doing is far worse than what Ownby did and look what the media has done to him.

Elwood Aspermonte's picture

Asking KNS to practice investigative journalism and

exercise journalistic ethics and integrity is like asking your dog to use the toilet and then hit the flush lever.

It is simply is not going to happen given the natural propensities of the animal and the physical limitations of the species.

In my opinion, the KNS "beat" reporters will not ask the tough questions, will not make an effort to not trust or not buy in to the spin from local government officials and their spokes people, and are more than content to let local government run ruffshod and unaccountable as long as they get their sweetheart government induced financing for their building and good press seats at UT athletic events.

Average Guy's picture

Setting the Outrage Bar

Apathy is no excuse, but if Knoxvillians got even a little mad over things they should be furious over, they would never be anything but mad.

Campfield alone is enough for sanity disruption. Add in Baumgartner, Ownby, Lowe, Ragsdale, Lumpy, Duncan III and now some nice insight into the Haslam clan, how low can the bar go?

How bad does it have to get before folks dust off the pitchforks? And once dusted, where would one take them?

And there is blame for the local media. Re-watching the Shory stance during the Kiffen press conference was a good reminder. When did become the norm for allowing people getting reported on, the ability to set the terms of the report? Especially those accused of wrong doing?

Knox County is a prime example of what happens when a circle of power becomes too concentrated. The KNS is a prime example of what happens to the fourth estate when the press joins the circle.

Their defenders can say what they want, but anybody that followed both the Burchett divorce and the Pilot situation, would be able to see the difference. And the contrast between the KNS and Plain Dealer coverage sheds even more light on an obvious problem.

To your point, Anders will easily step over the bar on this, simply because it’s already so low.

Pam Strickland's picture

I can't speak for

I can't speak for Satterfield's story. I was surprised that Anders wasn't at least parenthetically ID'd as a commissioner. I watched a video on WBIR and he was ID'd as a commissioner there.

I can speak for my own work, and it is mentioned in my column tomorrow. Because of space limitations, I don't get into it much more, although I do take a swipe at the supervisor's inaction and what it meant. However, with 10 officers involved in the incident, counting the supervisors, there's a lot of real estate taken up just getting every officer and their offenses listed.

Observer's picture

Pam, now that it is clear

Pam, now that it is clear that Commissioner Brad Anders is in the dashboard video, will you demand he resign the way you did with Commissioner Jeff Ownby?

Pam Strickland's picture

Anders was not present until

Anders was not present until after Mallicoat had been removed from the scene. There's a big difference in being present and seeing the prisoner and seeing the aftermath.

That being said, it doesn't mean that there isn't more to the story and that the lack of follow through by the supervisors doesn't require more than a simple reprimand. My column on Friday noted that if it hadn't been for citizens contacting Rausch nothing would have happened. And because Rausch listened three officers pleaded guilty to criminal charges and seven were disciplined internally, which wouldn't have happened had we left things up to the supervisors.

xmd's picture

Are you sure he was gone? 12

Are you sure he was gone? 12 min. in does not seem like enough time for him to be gone. Now the video is private. I remember hearing groans for some time.

STOP THE COVERUP's picture

I saw the video and...

What you say it not true. My husband and I watched it this afternoon. We both recognized Lt. Anders.

Mallicoat was removed after Lt. Anders left. You could clearly see Lt. Anders bend down to look at Mallicoat on the ground. It was some 15 to 20 minutes later after Lt. Anders had left that Mallicoat was picked up from the ground.

Why is the video hidden from the public? And why are you lying to us?

timterrific's picture

Brad is a Chamber Boy

No way in hell is Patrick Birmingham going to allow Bad Anders to get his name dirty. Birmingham owns Anders. Birmingham runs the Chamber. If Anders was not a Chamber Boy he would be front page. Pat just bought Brad's soul real cheap!

Jamie Satterfield's picture

shhhh! It's a conspiracy

You can slap me on this one. I had a whole lot going on all at once. TV team covered. I, on the other hand, had to cover the court hearing, do a web update, speed to Moses for press conference, ask questions TV babes didn't have a clue to ask since they had not broken the original story as I did and had not investigated details ahead of time as I had. For instance, Rausch tried to say they took this guy to get medical treatment when, in fact, they did not. They tried to pawn him off on the jail first. But I digress. After the presser, I had to get copies of the videos and internal affairs probe, do another web update, get the videos and docs to online and give them descriptors. Then I had to sit down and actually review the internal affairs report, rewatch the videos, call the victim's lawyer and write two stories that measured 30 inches each and included details of what every officer at the scene did or did not do. The supervisors, including Anders, were not accused of crimes. They were reprimanded for laziness. Sgt. Shelton was the top officer on the scene. It was his responsibility to question these officers about why they had a suspect in custody who had been beat to hell. Sgt. Shelton later sent the use of force reports to Anders, who signed them, and then sent them to Capt. Thomas, who signed them. Neither Anders nor Thomas took the time to review video and instead took the use of force reports as true. It was my intent to ID Anders as a county commissioner but I failed to do so. An editor should have caught my omission but didn't likely because I filed my stories around 9 p.m., which is when there is only one editor manning the desk and he is responsible at the same time for reviewing all the pages, finding wire copy to plug holes, etc... I only realized I had failed to ID Anders as a county commissioner when I read the stories in the paper. My supervisor also called me out on it after he read my stories in the paper. We had a brief discussion that Donila could pursue any commission fallout.
Having said all that, I know what you're going to say - excuses, excuses. You screwed up. Own it. I am. I've been doing this work for 25 years and am quite comfortable with the notion that unlike most professions, when you make a mistake either of commission or omission, it's right there for the entire world to see and comment on. And, believe me, no one is harder on me for my mistakes than I am. But this was no grand conspiracy in which the powers that be were protecting Anders. The paper endorsed JJ, you may recall, and we have a good working relationship with him.
I will be glad to forward your concerns to Mike Donila about the commission angle since he covers commission. Thank you for allowing me to offer insight into my screw up.

Katie 's picture

While I have no idea whether

While I have no idea whether Mr. Anders or Mr. Shelton knew that there were citizens reporting that the officers in this incident had beaten the hell out of the suspect before these two supervisors signed off on the (false) reports without viewing dashcam video, I DO know that Capt. Eve Thomas was well aware of the issue because in the first 24-48 hours after it happened, I spoke with Capt. Thomas on the phone and also exchanged emails with her. I detailed exactly what my son, husband and multiple neighbors had seen and heard that day, and. I told her that I had photos of all the blood left on the street and in an adjacent yard after the attack. She asked me to email the photos to her, which I was of course, happy to do because I appreciated her stated intent as precinct captain for our neighborhood to fully investigate. (That may not be her official title, but that's the role she plays for KPD in our neighborhood.) When I learned this week via WBIR & the Sentinel that Capt. Thomas had signed off on the false reports without even viewing the dashcam video, I was so disappointed and yes, disturbed. She knew very well that multiple witnesses were reporting that the officers on the scene had beaten and stomped the man to unconsciousness. She promised me verbally and in writing that she would make certain that a full review of what had happened would take place. I am really saddened to learn that she did the exact opposite.

-Katie

barkers's picture

Nobility

Jamie, your post is noble and admirable. We all screw up from time to time. And yes, we journalists have to admit it when we do, unlike some non-journalists who post erroneous information on websites. It's easy to second-guess and play Monday morning quarterback and toss out conspiracy theories, but actually doing the work is hard.

Like you, Jamie, I've been the only editor on the desk at night when stories are coming in (or aren't, leaving a gaping hole that must be filled by a wire story that is either too long or too short for the available space) and the music critic is late with his review and the big game goes into overtime and the shooting occurs just before deadline (and you don't know yet if the victim is dead, which puts it in the paper automatically, or grazed, which doesn't doesn't mean it's automatic but still could be newsworthy depending on the circumstances) and the headline for the lede story contains a misspelling that nobody has caught and the reader calls to complain that his paper that morning was late or that Greg Johnson is an idiot and the obituaries run longer than expected (meaning you've got to kill the story on some politician's accusations about Benghazi, leading to more online conspiracy theories) and all the while you know that one mistake can end your career if it's bad enough. But of course, we have plenty of time to sit around and conspire to screw over the public at the behest of (fill in the blank, depending on your politics).

Anyway, you didn't have to come to knoxviews to explain what happened, but you did, and I respect you for it.

Average Guy's picture

"Laziness?"

Like Baumgartner's secretary and court bailiff were lazy?

Can we please not pretend there isn't a hierarchy regarding these issues and that the hierarchy doesn't have unspoken lines people within it don't cross? In this case, it's a Thin Blue Line. 

Granted, you have to report what you're told.

But it would be helpful to report on the situation beyond what the people involved in the situation are "trying to say". 

And do you know if when Knox County rejects an inmate due to injury, does anyone get notified? 

KPD Stories's picture

not true

"The supervisors, including Anders, were not accused of crimes. They were reprimanded for laziness. Sgt. Shelton was the top officer on the scene. It was his responsibility to question these officers about why they had a suspect in custody who had been beat to hell. Sgt. Shelton later sent the use of force reports to Anders, who signed them, and then sent them to Capt. Thomas, who signed them. Neither Anders nor Thomas took the time to review video and instead took the use of force reports as true."

I've never heard a police cover up explained as "laziness". And for your information a cover up is a conspiracy. And it isn't the first time for Anders. Today I won't say anything more than that because yesterday it got my only comment deleted. Your newspaper is protecting Brad Anders. Commissioner Anders uncharged crime, judicial obstruction, is a whole lot more serious than what Commissioner Lambert, Commissioner Moore, Commissioner Smith, Commissioner Pinkston, or Commissioner Ownby did. And the Sentinel went overboard on their "crimes".

How do any of you at the Sentinel pretend you have any credibility left after Pilot and now this?

Verax's picture

How do you know that these

How do you know that these supervisors acted out of "laziness." Another commenter already stated that he emailed back and forth with one of them explaining that he had knowledge of a police brutality incident so that one at least signed off on the reports knowing that the officers versions of what happened differed from witness versions of what happened. Doesn't sound like simple laziness to me but I would like to hear how you know that laziness explains their actions. The intent behind the behavior of the supervisors in this case matters. It's strange to hear a reporter assigned to the case giving a specific description of the supervisors intent unless there's some info to back that description up.

Average Guy's picture

I don’t know who knew what

I don’t know who knew what when, and I doubt Satterfield would ever get it from anybody on the record.

What I do know with 100% certainty is that gossip in law enforcement agencies makes the work of middle schoolers look, well, middle schoolish.

There aren’t a bunch of Snowden’s in government. And apparently, he was one in a million.

The odds get worse with cops. Either report around them or wait on their press release, because you’re never going to get the real skinny from them by asking.

FocuslyFocused's picture

Not Nearly

as cheaply as Steve Hunley owns Jeff Ownby.

Mike Cohen's picture

Satterfield

And if someone calleld you a "newspaper babe" how would you react?

Broadcast journalism is different than newspaper journalism, but different is not bad.

I work with both, but frankly your demeaning attitude towards broadcast journalist is both uncalled for and beneath you.

Katie 's picture

Mike is an award-winning

Mike is an award-winning former news director with a major metro TV station, as well as the son of a highly respected newspaperman. Not "just" a PR guy.

- Katie

Bbeanster's picture

Katie, I like Mike OK (didn't

Katie, I like Mike OK (didn't used to), but here and now, and since he's been in Knoxville, Mike is a PR flack, and that is the role he customarily plays on this board. I don't even think he would deny that most times, he's here defending the status quo.

Also, I've got to get Jamie's back on the point in contention. It can be aggravating to attend press conferences with people who are more concerned with their makeup than with knowing the facts of a story. that's my bias, but it's an educated one. Been there, done that.

Mike Cohen's picture

Bean's comments

No denial. I am here mostly as a flack. I defend those parts of the status quo, especially the people, in which I have faith and confidence. There are plenty I wouldn't speak up for here or elsewhere.

I can still think like a journalist and talk to journalists a lot. I love the trade. But I am not a journalist.

Katie's picture

Having made note of this,

Having made note of this, however, I'm all for squeegees & popcorn in general...

R. Neal's picture

Hey, cut her some slack.

Hey, cut her some slack. Maybe she wasn't aware that Anders is a Commissioner? That's Donila's beat.

Observer's picture

???

The KNS story from Jamie ran at 9:41 pm at night. That link shows NO UPDATES. No update the next morning. The next night. The next day. And the NEXT day. It is a coverup. And a big one at that.

How is that possible? Where were the editors? Where was the update? If you didn't report this here, would anyone know? This is as big as the Pilot coverup.

Mike Cohen's picture

Slack

Of course she knows who Anders is a Commissioner. She's plugged in and knows all the players in town.

I am totally willing to cut her slack on the reporting. Feeding the paper, the editors, the web etc. is demanding and mistakes can happen. And there are few editors to catch any possible errors.

It's demeaning broadcast reporters where I won't cut her any slack. That's just wrong and unnecessary.

barkers's picture

Broadcast

I've known lots of good broadcast reporters and I've known some crummy ones. I've known lots of good newspaper reporters and I've known some crummy ones. I think I'm a fair judge of good reporting. But if anybody has earned the right to be critical of another reporter, regardless of the medium they work in, it's Jamie. Her standards are high, and she holds herself to those standards.

Observer's picture

"I think I'm a fair judge of

"I think I'm a fair judge of good reporting."

Explain then why there was NO update to the story.

barkers's picture

I don't have any involvement

I don't have any involvement in the news coverage anymore, so I can't speak to specific editorial decisions. I have experience that informs my views, but no first-hand knowledge. I respect the news editors and know from working for them that they are competent and conscientious. As I said before, it's easy to second-guess.

Observer's picture

"I don't have any involvement

"I don't have any involvement in the news coverage anymore, so I can't speak to specific editorial decisions."

You have written many editorials about Commissioners and their misdeeds. When will the editorial about Anders appear? Will you demand he resign from Commission also?

barkers's picture

editorials

I don't discuss the content of editorials publicly before they run.

Your last sentence -- "Will you demand he resign from Commission also?" -- implies that we have demanded other commissioners to resign. During my time on the editorial board (three years), we have not.

Observer's picture

"Your last sentence -- "Will

"Your last sentence -- "Will you demand he resign from Commission also?" -- implies that we have demanded other commissioners to resign. During my time on the editorial board (three years), we have not."

Was there not an editorial about why Ownby should resign? Is Pam Strickland not an opinion writer at your paper?

barkers's picture

difference

This is a teachable moment.

An editorial is the newspaper's official position on an issue. In our editorials on Ownby, we said he should apologize and explain to his constituents, and that county commission should censure him for the incident. We did not call on him to resign.

Pam Strickland is a columnist. She does not speak for the paper any more than Greg Johnson does. The opinions of our columnists are theirs, not the opinion of the News Sentinel editorial board. Same goes for knoxviews. Neither your opinion nor mine represents Randy's opinion.

I hope that I have been able to help you understand the difference between an editorial (which, again, is the official opinion of the newspaper) and a column (which is the personal opinion of the columnist).

Observer's picture

fair enough

"An editorial is the newspaper's official position on an issue. In our editorials on Ownby, we said he should apologize and explain to his constituents, and that county commission should censure him for the incident. We did not call on him to resign."

I will accept that. To be consistent, will you at some time in the near future, write the Commissioner Anders, "should apologize and explain to his constituents, and that county commission should censure him for the incident"?

barkers's picture

As I previously noted, I do

As I previously noted, I do not discuss editorials that have not been published.

Observer's picture

teachable moment

"As I previously noted, I do not discuss editorials that have not been published."

If we don't see that editorial, is it safe to say we have been taught a lesson?

Verax's picture

Do you have any idea how

Do you have any idea how pompous you sound? Or how disrespectful it is of your readers to "instruct" them in the ways of the local newspaper?

You're splitting hairs and you know it. We all get that as the editorial page editor you don't report the news. However, the idea that the editorial page editor doesn't to some degree assert oversight over hos columnists just doesn't fly. The letters to the editor that are chosen to be printed are selected by you, right? Do you ever make edits to columns by Pam Strickland or ask her to make any changes? Who decides what topics this omniscient editorial board will address and who actually writes the editorials? Just because you don't report the news doesn't mean you don't play an important part in covering it. The argument could be made that you play a more important part in covering the news than the people who just report it.

barkers's picture

Thanks

Thanks for pointing out the importance of editorials. I happen to think they are important, too, though I am aware I might be in the minority on that point.

I did not mean to be disrespectful, though by your question about Pam it seemed you did not know the difference between an editorial and an opinion column. Lots of people don't. I apologize if I offended you by explaining the difference.

As far as the column editing process goes, Pam and Greg and the other opinion columnists send me their columns. I edit them to make sure they conform to our style and for things like libel. That's it. I don't alter their opinions. In fact, I often disagree with their opinions but that doesn't matter to me. I want them to express their opinions based on fact and with passion. When I edit their columns I try to do so in a way that does not undercut their arguments. I like to think that's editorial integrity.

As far as editorials go, the editorial board meets twice a week to decide on the editorials we will publish and the points we want to make. Typically, I write a draft of the editorial and send the draft to the other board members for their approval. We revise the editorial collaboratively until we are satisfied with the content. Hope this helps.

barkers's picture

Oh, and just to be clear (and

Oh, and just to be clear (and not trying to be offensive), Jamie is not a columnist. She is a news reporter. I have zero, zilch, nada authority to tell news reporters what to do.

Pam Strickland's picture

Just checking in for the

Just checking in for the first time in a couple of days. Barker is my editor, but he does not tell me what to write. I will sometimes throw out two or three things that I am thinking about in broad terms and he will give me an off-the-cuff response: it might hold, it's interesting because xyz, or FYI the editorial on Friday will be about that or some other some thing. But the final decision is always mine. His editing is for clarity and libel issues that may have gotten by me. I was always taught that every piece should have three sets of eyes look at it in addition to the writer. I don't think my work has that luxury these days, but Scott and I do OK.

Verax's picture

You can't have it both ways.

You can't have it both ways. You can't continually come here and defend specific news coverage on a topic as an employee of the newspaper but then deny any responsibility for or knowledge of how that coverage was investigated, written or edited.

Now that at least two employees of the newspaper have been made aware of the fact that the Brad Anders implicated in coveting up big time police brutality is the same Brad Anders who serves on County Commission and who plans to run for Sheriff, can't you guys at least correct or update your story? Better yet, why not do a new story where you at least try asking Commissioner Anders whether he knew about the citizen reports before he signed off on the officers' reports without any semblance of due diligence? When Commissioner Ownby was accused of something where no one had their ribs broken and no taxpayer money was going to be paid out in a civil rights lawsuit, the news media got statements from his lawyer and his fellow commissioners regarding the accusations. Is that going to happen here?

barkers's picture

Anders

I knew the instant I read Jamie's story that the Brad Anders who was reprimanded was the same Brad Anders who serves on county commission. Jamie has explained how that was not reported and admirably took responsibility for it. I don't have influence on news stories -- it would be unethical for me as the editorial page editor to do so -- and cannot order an update or a follow-up story even if I wanted to. I typically do not know what stories reporters are chasing. That's not my job. I will defend, however, the integrity of good reporters such as Jamie.

SnM's picture

Certainly there will be a

Certainly there will be a story on Anders to cover for the fact that there was not a story on Anders and all the actionable accusations he is accused to have done to cover up the actions of other actors in the ongoing drama.

Jamie Satterfield's picture

Seriously?

The web updates occurred during the day - after the court hearing and then another after the press conference. The final versions of my stories were posted after I filed the final versions to appear in print. That would have been around 9:30 pm. Web updates are quick versions of breaking news events that are posted as news develops. Anything posted at night with the exception of late night breaking news is not a web update but the final print version. Geez, dude. I know conspiracy theories are loads of fun but at seriously?

Observer's picture

conspiracy theories?

Update, followup, clarification, whatever.

Your story ran Monday evening and you nor anyone at the Sentinel printed any subsequent story identifying Anders as a Commissioner and former Vice Chair of Commission.

Then you come here and claim that this is a conspiracy theory? Do you think saying those words makes this go away?

Maybe you or Barker can explain why this story of police brutality and coverup does not come up when a search for "Brad Anders" is done on the Sentinel website? Because that really seems like a conspiracy.

Today is Friday. Are you ever going to report about Anders being a Commissioner? Saturday is coverup day at the Sentinel. Maybe tomorrow? Somewhere back in the Local section?

Mike Cohen's picture

Broadcast

Scott:

I understand your viewpoint and your defense of Jamie.

Criticizing the reporting of broadcast journalists is fair game.

Calling them "broadcast babes" and implying they don't work nearly as hard is not. Like print, they feed the web constantly. Then they have to do something for the 5. And the 6. And very possibly the 11.

They work damn hard and many of them do good work. There are plenty of good stories that have been broken or substantially advanced in this market by TV journalists.

Criticize their work. Fair enough. Criticize them simply for who they are: not fair.

And thanks to Katie Granju for her compliments. Much appreciated. Katie's Dad, Hank Allison, was a hell of a reporter. I worked with him at WTVF in Nashville. And her Mom, Sue, covered a ton of big stories working for UPI. Like me, Katie came to journalism generationally. Heck, her Dad was there...on the air live on radio, I believe...when the Symbonese Liberation Army and LAPD shot it out.

barkers's picture

I'll let Jamie defend her

I'll let Jamie defend her characterization of broadcast journalists, but know this: Nobody works harder than Jamie. Some might come close, and a few might match her (Mike Donila, Don Jacobs, Matt Lakin and some other KNS reporters do), but nobody works harder on a day-in, day-out basis. That goes for print and TV and radio.

Mike Cohen's picture

Jamie

Not arguing her work ethic a bit, although frankly anybody covering daily news...print or broadcast...works damn hard. Nature of the beast. The really good ones to above and beyond.

barkers's picture

Yes, the good ones do go

Yes, the good ones do go above and beyond. And Jamie's one of the good ones.

Verax's picture

What does working hard have

What does working hard have to do with this? Nothing. Nobody is questioning how hard anybody works in general. People are appropriately asking how the newspaper could fail
to mention that the person disciplined in a big police brutality case is a sitting County Commissioner. That's a big mistake in reporting I would think. You could correct the story or you could write a new one but telling people how hard someone works at their job in general is irrelevant.

Rachel's picture

...when the Symbonese

...when the Symbonese Liberation Army and LAPD shot it out.

Your age is showing. Mine too.

I bet half of the readers had to google that reference.

fischbobber's picture

In that case

They won't get this song either.

(link...)

Rachel's picture

Who the heck is Loudon

Who the heck is Loudon Wainwright? Don't you mean Rufus?

:)

fischbobber's picture

Rufus?

Do you mean this Rufus?

(link...)

Rachel's picture

Nope. I meant Rufus

Nope. I meant Rufus Wainwright, son of Loudon and Kate McGarrigle.

The :) was supposed to indicate that I was joking about our ages.

fischbobber's picture

Uh-oh

I'm telling jokes that no one gets again. The Rufus of the song is one and the same as the Rufus to whom you refer. :-).

I did get the joke about our ages though, which was supposed to be the point of an obscure off-color, though somewhat enlightened reference to a song about a suckling infant.

I've often felt that if I could only write jokes that people got, I could have a future in comedy, which is a lot like saying that if I could only throw a football, I could play quarterback.

As for being old;

(link...)

I'm not quite dead yet.

;)

Rachel's picture

Oops, sorry. Guess I don't

Oops, sorry. Guess I don't know as much about the Wainwrights as I thought I did.

But as long as we're talking about that extended family - I saw the Roches at ella Guru's once. Fantastic.

And we should probably shut up now. My apologies to folks for hijacking this thread.

fischbobber's picture

The punch line.......

(link...)

to the joke nobody gets.

Jamie Satterfield's picture

I am a babe

You are right Mike that TV journalists can and do work hard. Robin Wilhoite used to give me a run for money back in the day and Stephanie over at channel 6 is top notch. But if you could see some of the things I see the current crop of female TV reporters (not all but more than a few) do on my beat it would make you cringe. Christian/Newsom case as example: TV reporter rubbing Gary Christian's arm and flirting. His wife took none too kindly to the gesture. Or the Baumgartner trial where yet another tried the giggly girl routine to try to get a fed guy to talk. It demeans the profession. Having said that, I tend to talk like a redneck cause I am. I call myself a court chick. I said bad guys instead of suspects. I say things like I'm busier than a one-legged man in a butt kicking contest. It's the way I talk when in a casual conversation and that's what I consider comments on a blog. I appreciate that you pointed this out to me as disrespectful though because I appreciate being schooled when I'm wrong. I spend a lot of time out back in the woodshed.

AnonymousOne's picture

Why hasn't the KNS called for

Why hasn't the KNS called for Steenrod, listed in the Pilot, FBI affidavit, to resign from the Chamber? Because it would be detrimental to the perception of the Haslam political machine. KNS plays favorites like Liberace played the ivories.

Mike Cohen's picture

Steenrod

Get serious. Mitch Steenrod hasn't been accused of anything. Being named in a court document is not a crime.

There is absolutely no reason for anyone to call on Mitch to step down. None.

AnonymousOne's picture

I am serious. And he is not

I am serious. And he is not just "named" in the court.

"By April 1, Pilot Chief Financial Officer Mitch Steenrod and Pilot general counsel Kristen Seabrook were ordering the sales staff to prepare spreadsheets showing the rebates actually paid and the figures actually owed, the affidavit stated. Steenrod’s son-in-law, Jonathan Duvall, was on the sales staff and, according to the affidavit, regularly made secret cuts to rebates owed his customers." KNS 6/2/2013

I'm surprised you didn't know this, or are just spinning. I would hope you're better prepared for your clients.

AnonymousOne's picture

not just named in the court

not just named in the court document

Elwood Aspermonte's picture

Steenrod and Seabrook were tipped off the feds were coming

that is the underlying story, perhaps you'd have to ask them whether or not they knew about the manual billing messes over the years, but before the feds got there on April 15, Pilot CFO and General Attorney were asking for the spreadsheets showing all of the manual rebates. They seem to be asking for the very documents that the feds were also most concerned about. That is an interesting question to put to the Pilot spinners and see how they respond.

AnonymousOne's picture

The real underlying story is

The real underlying story is exposed in this quote: "call on Mitch to step down."

First name basis.

If this were any other group in the county besides the Haslams, COC, and their associates in Knox County Schools, it would be referred to as the good ol' boy network or the old courthouse crowd. But this group is never called anything critical.

Rachel's picture

Srsly, guys, 25 posts on this

Srsly, guys, 25 posts on this since I sat down to pizza at 8 p.m.? It's only 10:15 now.

Jamie screwed up on the Anders thing. She admitted it. The conspiracy stuff is nonsense. It's pretty much impossible to have a conspiracy in this town anyway. Too many flapping tongues.

As for Scott being condescending for explaining the difference between editorials and columns - we may "all" understand that here on KV, but the general public doesn't. You see their confusion all the time in KNS comments. Heck, many readers don't know the difference between editorial and news content.

Jamie shouldn't have said "tv babes" but the truth is that in general print reporters cover stories in more depth than tv reporters - not surprising, they don't try to cover someting in 90 seconds. And if they stay on the same beat (like Jamie or Donila or the I'm-still-baffled-why-the-KNS-took-him-off-the-city-beat Hayes Hickman) they learn enough background to provide good context. That rarely happens on television.

My biggest quarrel with the KNS - which will come as no surprise to Scott - is the obvious cutback in editors in recent years. A LOT more factual errors creep into the paper (not to mention spelling and grammatical ones) and it's annoying. And don't try calling in the evening after a web story gets published to point out an error with the idea of helping the KNS to correct it before the print edition. It will NOT be appreciated.

Now, where the heck is the story about the Federal judge smack down of the Haslam administration over Occupy Nashville? :)

barkers's picture

Occupy

Rachel wrote: Now, where the heck is the story about the Federal judge smack down of the Haslam administration over Occupy Nashville? :)

(link...)

Rachel's picture

I hope you saw the :). I

I hope you saw the :). I figured it was coming, although I was sort of surprised not to find it in this morning's paper.

barkers's picture

Oh, I saw it. We're good.

Oh, I saw it. We're good. Don't know anything more than you about when it was posted or published.

Rachel's picture

OTOH, my spouse was featured

OTOH, my spouse was featured in TWO stories in today's paper. He seems to spend a lot of time talking to Gerald Witt these days. :)

fischbobber's picture

Wow!

Zero Comments.

You should have put the word homosexual in the headline so people would read it.

AnonymousOne's picture

"Now, where the heck is the

"Now, where the heck is the story about the Federal judge smack down of the Haslam administration over Occupy Nashville? :)"

Probably the same place you tossed the conspiracy theories :)

Go figure, huh.

Former Reporter's picture

Is Birmingham still on the golf course?

When University of Tennessee football calls an emergency press conference, the three blind mice of the News Sentinel send about five employees. Two web & social media and video, two journalists and one photographer. Yet when Bad Anders gets in trouble. They send a skeleton crew. Jamie is not to blame for this. One question, Mr. Barker... Did you or Patrick Birmingham pull Jamie Satterfield off the school security issue when chamber boy Dr. McIntyre allegedly started complaining? Was the newspaper union called in because just like with Brad Anders, Patrick Birmingham would not let Jamie do her job correctly and unimpeded when dealing with the Chamber of Commerce golden child? Jamie a your damn good reporter. We know the truth and what really is going on an the real battle we must fight every day in the newsroom.

BT107's picture

Let's Move This Story To The Next Step

Jamie Satterfield has conceded that she and her editors made a not insignificant oversight in reporting an important breaking story. That answers that question; a mistake was made. So lets move on from that point.

The breaking story was on Monday or Tuesday of this week. It's unusual and concerning that no new story has been reported since that time focused on the part that the vice chairman of Knox County Commission played in what occurred. I want more facts on why he was disciplined, and I would like him to answer questions such as the ones posed in other comments. If he won't respond, that's a problem for him. He owes voters some answers on this because it's not a private employment issue it's a public dollars and ethics issue. I also want to hear what other commissioners have to say about Brad Anders' behavior. I don't really care why this story hasn't been covered yet. I doubt some kind of conspiracy. I only care that it gets covered.

I also hope that the editorial team Barkers runs will be opining that every one of those officers should have been fired. I watched that video with bile rising in my throat. Every one there was culpable. Is it not a crime for a police officer to assist another one in beating up a handcuffed suspect and then lie in writing to cover for the beating? We know for a fact that this is exactly what multiple officers did. That's exactly what they were disciplined by KPD for doing. It's outrageous and scary that those officers and their supervisors remain on our streets. They have no right to wear the badge. They have no right to earn my tax money in salary.

This story did not end with the release of the dashcam video and disciplinary actions earlier this week. It should have just begin because now we know what questions need to be asked. I will be waiting with optimism for the journalists in Knoxville to begin asking them any day now.

Observer's picture

well said

I don't recall a Rodney King event of this kind in Knoxville. I too watched the whole video. This is very serious. The Sentinel's coverage of this reminds me a the coverage of Pilot. Lacking. Sparse.

The only thing I don't agree with you on is conspiracy. I'll explain.

Go to Google and search for, "Sgt. John Shelton Knoxville, TN". Search for "Brad Anders Knoxville, TN", or "Lt. Brad Anders Knoxville, TN".

What articles from the Sentinel are listed?

None. But this KnoxViews story is listed.

Someone at the Sentinel excluded this story from internet search engines. How is this not a conspiracy?

SnM's picture

Try searching these terms

Brad Anders sentinel Rausch disciplinary

(link...)

barkers's picture

Apparently you weren't here

Apparently you weren't here when the Andre Stinson situation happened. The KPD officers involved in that case were exonerated, but it was a similar situation. I will not provide a link so as to let you use your considerable web searching skills to find out about Stinson.

P.S.: Part of your problem might be using the Postal Service designation for Tennessee (TN) rather than the Associate Press's designation for Tennessee (Tenn.). Using "TN" won't pull up many news stories.

Observer's picture

still no results

"P.S.: Part of your problem might be using the Postal Service designation for Tennessee (TN) rather than the Associate Press's designation for Tennessee (Tenn.). Using "TN" won't pull up many news stories."

That doesn't work. Maybe you could talk with your internet team and find out why?

So was Brad Anders suspended or not? Could you call Chief Rausch and find out for us?

Verax's picture

Still no coverage in the Sentinel today

Still no reporting on this case in the Sentinel today. That's really something. I agree with the person who said that the release of the dashcam videos and discipline reports for the KPD personnel involved should have marked the start of digging into the story instead of the end of it. The video raises many obvious questions about how discipline was meted out and why these officers are still employed by the city. No one has asked Mayor Rogero any of the follow up questions. Did she agree with allowing all the other KPD employees to keep their jobs? Also as others have stated the issue of a top Knox County public official covering for these officers should warrant its own reporting at least as rigorous and front page- worthy as all the stories on Commissioner Ownby's transgression. I wonder how many people have actually watched that entire video. It's the worst case of police brutality I've ever seen caught on camera. They didn't just beat the man up, they threatened to (paraphrase) "take him behind that building and f*** him up the ass." At one other point a KPD officer asked the man being attacked to "suck my d***." Have any of you ever heard law enforcement officers caught on tape threatening to rape a suspect in handcuffs? Other follow up reporting should include review of all the involved officers and supervisors human resources files.

I also see that Pam Strickland's column that mentions that Brad Anders is a County Commissioner is not listed on the front page of the online edition of the newspaper.

KPD Stories's picture

WATE Gene Patterson show today

"Still no reporting on this case in the Sentinel today."

There was new reporting from WATE today on "Tennessee This Week". And it is different than anything in the KNS to date.

Gene Patterson said that Sgt. John Shelton, Capt. Eve Thomas, and Lt. Brad Anders had been suspended. And then a graphic was shown with their pictures and the word "SUSPENDED" in capital letters was under their picture.

This is what Jamie Satterfield reported Monday June 10th, "At an afternoon news conference at KPD’s Moses Center training facility, Rausch announced disciplinary action taken against those four officers as well as against three supervisors — Capt. Eve Thomas, Lt. Brad Anders and Sgt. John Shelton — who approved what turned out to be deceitful use of force reports without having viewed what Rausch deemed the most incriminating video of at least four cameras rolling that day.

Thomas received an oral reprimand, while Anders and Shelton received written reprimands."

Here on KnoxViews Jamie Satterfield wrote, "shhhh! It's a conspiracy".

She was telling the truth when she wrote that here. Less when she reported the story. The KNS covered up Brad Anders suspension. So should we accept that a suspension is a reprimand and Jamie is honest? That's what Barker will claim.

What other newspaper in this state lies this way? Should the KNS be "reprimanded" by the public?

barkers's picture

I would question WATE's

I would question WATE's characterizing the supervisors as being suspended. They were reprimanded, as Satterfield reported, but not suspended. I trust Satterfield's reporting. And I really don't care what you think of it.

Disgusted's picture

You really don't care what

You really don't care what your readers think of your newspaper's coverage of a particular story? Aren't you the editorial page editor? I can't imagine that your corporate overlords would be cool with you coming to a community message board, joining a debate with readers who are discussing the quality of your newpaper's coverage of a certain important story, refusing to even consider the possibility that your nespaper's coverage has been subpar in any way whatsoever, and then telling a reader asking reasonable questions that you don't care what he or she thinks of the quality of coverage on the story that's being discussed.

KPD Stories's picture

?

"I would question WATE's characterizing the supervisors as being suspended. They were reprimanded, as Satterfield reported, but not suspended. I trust Satterfield's reporting. And I really don't care what you think of it."

Can you or Jamie explain how she missed seeing Lt. Brad Anders in the dashboard videos? So since he was on the scene, how does "laziness" explain why he signed off on the videos?

The KNS is part of a coverup isn't it Barker? Judging from the dashboard video, it makes more sense that WATE has the story correct and Lt. Anders was suspended. It is a miracle he kept his job and people could question why Police Chief David Rausch didn't fire him.

What about it Jamie? Time to come clean and tell us who pressured you to change the story?

Skinny's picture

video

I watched the video and I really couldn't see what was going on. I don't think anyone should have been disciplined on that tape alone because it's rather hard to see what actually happened.

Factchecker's picture

Bet Skinny knows exactly

Bet Skinny knows exactly what's happening when he sees videos of stuff like.... BENGHAZI!!!

Skinny's picture

Brad who?

I don't know Anders or any of the officers involved. I'm not saying they didn't do anything wrong, just that the claims made about the video are not necessarily supported by what can actually be seen in the video. I would assume that the investigators talked to eye witnesses, doctors who treated the perp and the other officers on the scene.

Skinny's picture

For example

I would think the Rodney King video would be an example of the worst police brutality ever caught on film. I have seen much worse than what could be seen on the Knoxville tape.

Skinny's picture

to metulj

I'm not sure I get your point. I already said the other evidence would have to include witnesses and doctor's reports. There's nothing wrong with a woman your age taking a nap in the middle of the day. You might think more clearly after a little rest.

Bbeanster's picture

Actually, if somebody's going

Actually, if somebody's going to research that other brutality case, his name was Andre Stenson, not Stinson.
I spent a 30-hour weekend covering that story and just double-checked my memory, and came up with this sad note:

(link...)

The Stenson case was terribly sad, and utterly avoidable. He panicked when the cops motioned him to pull over, probably because he was on parole and driving without a license, probably because he couldn't afford the high-risk auto insurance required of people like him. He took off running, and died in a vacant lot on Selma Avenue. M.E. said the cause of death was a rare heart condition and the cops were exonerated.

barkers's picture

Thanks for correcting my

Thanks for correcting my spelling. I didn't go back and look it up as I probably should have. I didn't cover much of the Stenson case, but did go to the East Knoxville neighborhood where he died to get reaction from the community when the officers were exonerated. The most striking thing was the fear. Nobody would go on the record using their names. It wasn't surprising, but it is disconcerting when you encounter true, visceral fear.

Bbeanster's picture

I wasn't meaning to correct

I wasn't meaning to correct your spelling just for the heck of it, just thought that since you were challenging somebody to look it up, it might help them to have the correct name.

I got a call the night it happened, and spent days and days on that story (one of the times working for a weekly actually helped me). Jamie S and I found ourselves in many of the same places that weekend. I had the luxury of dropping everything to concentrate on that one. Jamie worked that sucker hard. That was during the time when she'd caught KPD in a bunch of shadiness (does David McGoldrick's name ring a bell?) and she was probably less popular with the brass at that time than I was. I really do think the culture has been cleaned up quite a bit now.

It was very tragic.

As for Stenson, the poor guy was working double shifts at Calhouns on the River. A co-worker, a guy from Jamaica, asked Andre to show him around town and he wanted Andre to drive. Literally a fatal mistake when they stopped for cigarettes and got flagged by the police as they pulled out of the parking lot. He panicked and took of running, probably because he thought is parole officer didn't like him.

He got glowing compliments from his bosses and co-workers, including Mike Chase himself. I talked to his co-workers and they were pissed at the internal affairs guy who showed up and pressured them to incriminate Andre.

You may remember that a whole contingent from Calhoun's came to City Council to protest, including Michael Malone (Carlene's son), who was working there as a waiter at that time.

I believe it truly was a wrong place, wrong time situation, and although it was litigated all to heck, I still think it's a stretch to say that a guy who is lying on his belly gasping 'I can't breathe' with a cop sitting on his back saying 'if you can talk, you can breathe' and subsequently died of heart failure expired of natural causes (like Sandra Elkins said he did).

That one will stay with me forever, and I was sorry to see that his poor wife died relatively young, too. They were hard-working people who deserved a better shake in life than they got.

barkers's picture

No offense taken, Betty. I'm

No offense taken, Betty. I'm embarrassed for misspelling Stenson's name, but that's because of my mistake, not your calling me out on it. Yes, the Stenson incident was terrible, for a variety of reasons. And I don't pretend to know more than you or Jamie about it. As I said, all I did was witness the fear in East Knoxville (a fear everyone I spoke with said they have lived with as long as they could remember) after the fact. That fear is disturbing to me.

redmondkr's picture

I have no right to abuse

I have no right to abuse others about it but, funny thing, in last week's Shopper News there was mention of one certain firing offense at the paper - misspelling a person's name.

Disgusted's picture

The Bottom Line

The bottom line here is that a current Knox County Commissioner has just been officially disciplined in an extremely brutal police incident. The paperwork for his reprimand says that he signed off on multiple statements from officers who were lying about what happened without even double checking their stories. And the only daily newspaper in town has yet to do any reporting on this beyond listing his name in a lengthy story, and even then they didn't even identify him as a County Commissioner.

The fact that the local paper hasn't actually reported this story is absolutely incredible by any standard (and no, listing his name in the story last week without even referencing that he's an elected official doesn't count as covering the Brad Anders story). I have no idea why the newspaper hasn't had a field day with this story. There are so many important questions yet to be asked and answered regarding Anders' role in what happened and yet we have radio silence.

Barker and Satterfield have been defending their coverage here and over in the comments at KNS. I have two very simple questions for one or both of them and I hope they will respond.

Do you believe that Brad Anders' involvement in this case is worthy of original reporting? Why or why not?

If any other journalists are reading I'd be interested to know whether you believe that this is a story that most daily newspapers would cover, if a high ranking local public official was implicated in a heinous police brutality case that's going to end with a costly payout to the victim.

I would also like to know from Satterfield how she knows that Anders motivation for signing off on those false reports was laziness as she said in her remark previously. That seems like something that a reporter wouldn't state unless she has solid info to back it up. Otherwise it sure sounds like she's defending Anders' actions because laziness as motivation wouldn't be anywhere near as disturbing as the other possible motivations for what he did.

ex-reporter's picture

Things about BRAD

It appears to definitely be a cover-up. Mr. Anders arrived on the scene in the video and witnesses the man lying in a pool of his own blood. After he witnesses this man who had his face beaten to near deformity. He places his hands in his pockets walked back towards the police car and does nothing. His biggest concern is if the female police officer broke her hand after punching the helpless victim so many times. However, doing nothing is the normal for Mr. Anders. Just ask any of his constituents. I've known person after person after person who's called his number and have not gotten a response. When a person finally got a response from him. He told them that he works two jobs and doesn't have the time or the care to deal with their problem. Ask around. He's lazy.

As for Scott Barker and the possibility of a coverup at the News Sentinel. Let's give everyone a little inside baseball into the Knoxville News Sentinel. I could be wrong, but it appears that allegedly the Last time Jamie Satterfield pissed off Patrick Birmingham, the company instituted a " social media guidelines policy" that was taped up for everyone to see. Basically what it really meant to say in my opinion was hey Jamie stop tweeting what an idiot Dr. McIntyre is. You're pissing off big members of the Chamber and Patrick Birmingham is going to do everything in his power to shut you up about the school scandal. Come on, Scott we all know about the whining emails sent from over at the Andrew Johnson building allegedly. So cut the crap. Go find the big man pull him away from his big glass of wine... And let's do some investigative journalism!

Disgusted's picture

Wait, you're saying that Brad

Wait, you're saying that Brad Anders actually appears on the dashcam video at the scene of the beating after the suspect is lying on the ground? I watched the whole thing and was really shocked to see the KPD officers just walking around while the guy was lying there so obviously injured after the beating but I don't know what Anders looks like so didn't notice his presence. If what you're saying is correct and Brad Anders signed off on those false reports without even viewing the dashcam video after he actually visited the scene while the injured man was still lying there with a bloody face, broken ribs a punctured lung and whatever else, then that takes his involvement to an entirely different level. There's no possible way he could not have known that the man was injured in the incident if he saw the scene. He had to have known he needed to verify the officers reports before signing off on them. If what you are saying is accurate, there's no way Anders signed all those false reports because he was "lazy" as Satterfield asserts.

Has anyone who knows what Commissioner Anders looks like watched the dashcam video that was released? Do you see him in the video?

A supervisor isn't called to the scene of a completed arrest for no reason. If Anders shows up while the guy is still lying there that means the officers who beat him or someone else sent Brad Anders there to "handle" the situation, which it appears that he tried to do, only he got caught because non-KPD witnesses reported it to the top.

Disgusted's picture

If anyone from the local TV

If anyone from the local TV or radio stations is reading this, now is your chance to kick some a** on a big story that the newspaper for whatever reason or reasons doesn't seem inclined to go after. Or maybe Metropulse? Halls Shopper? UTK Daily Beacon or TNJN? Somebody please do something with this story.

Former Reporter's picture

13 minute mark

Yes, at around the 13 minute mark Lieut. Brad Anders , who is also the County Commissioner can be seen wearing shades. He is the chubby bald guy. But he got a pass because he's in the Chamber crowd and so is Patrick Birmingham. Why do you think Pilot Flying J buys 50,000 papers a week? This is the hush money for events like this and like the school security issue. Remember, allegedly it was the Haslam's who tried to get Brad Anders elected chairman.Why do you think Dr. Richard Briggs switched his vote at the last minute? If Commissioner Sam McKenzie wouldn't have been so mad at Mr. Arnett, then Brad would be chairman because of Dr. Briggs . Why do you think Dr. Briggs broke his promise? He clearly stated he was backing Tony Norman. When the Haslam family subordinates start pumping money into Dr. Briggs campaign. Just remember I told you so. Briggs allied with the chamber at the last minute. Ask yourself why? Why would he go back on his word? Who could pressure a millionaire heart surgeon? Our good friend Mike Cohen can explain that one. I think.

Verax's picture

Not a conspiracy. Just lazy journalism.

I don't believe there's some kind of edict from on high preventing the reporters at the KNS from doing some thorough, front page investigative stories looking into Brad Anders' role in the KPD scandal. I think there's just no fire in these people's bellies these days to go after stories and new leads and angles on previously reported stories. They have no competition anymore and none of us no matter what we do for a living works as hard when we don't have to compete. The weekly alternative used to routinely battle it out with the KNS for the best coverage of big local stories but now they don't seen to do that any longer. MP also used to point it out when KNS coverage was questionable in some way and they don't seem to do that any longer. When a newspaper has no competition, its reporters and editors are more likely to waste time arguing with readers on local message boards, defending and rationalizing their organization instead of snatching up great leads and tips found in the message board and running with them.

I suspect that now that Jamie Satterfield and Scott Barkers have their heels publicly dug in on the adequacy of how KNS "already covered" this story, we will never see another meaningful word about Brad Anders part in the KPD mess printed in the newspaper.

Observer's picture

"I don't believe there's some

"I don't believe there's some kind of edict from on high preventing the reporters at the KNS from doing some thorough, front page investigative stories looking into Brad Anders' role in the KPD scandal."

One week later we learn Lt. Commissioner Brad Anders is in the dashboard video and that he was suspended, not reprimanded? That is more than lazy. Even Barker won't parse suspended/reprimanded.

Pickens's picture

We get it, not verifieds

You don't like Brad Anders or the paper.

Observer's picture

"You don't like Brad Anders

"You don't like Brad Anders or the paper."

You support the KNS coverup of this? This was the next Sheriff. You support a man who stands with his hands in his pockets while a mentally ill man who had been released from Northshore with no place to go lays with broken ribs and a punctured lung for fifteen minutes while Lt. Anders stands there with his hands in his pockets? And then the mentally ill injured man is sent to jail and not the hospital?

Pickens's picture

I am sure the only reason you

I am sure the only reason you are here is because of your care of the man on the ground. /sarcasm

Observer's picture

"I am sure the only reason

"I am sure the only reason you are here is because of your care of the man on the ground. /sarcasm"

I don't want to be the man on the ground. You let this happen and it could happen to you. /reality

Pickens's picture

You want the man on the

You want the man on the ground for political reasons- no more, no less.

KPD Stories's picture

What's there to like about

What's there to like about either Anders of the Sentinel in this mess? What does being a not verified have to do with it? You look like you want it covered up because of yours politics. Plenty of verifieds are just as mad about this. When the Sentinel people come in here and talk trash they deserve what they get.

Pickens's picture

Yep, one of the planks of my

Yep, one of the planks of my political party is liking people beat up. /sarcasm

Factchecker's picture

Heh

The JJJones voters are here! Welcome to the party!

Limited time offer!

Verax's picture

Questions that need asking Do

Questions that need asking

Do KPD supervisors routinely come to the scene of a fairly routine arrest after the suspect is handcuffed and lying on the ground? (the guy committed no crime and had no weapon. He was just drunk in public as far as I can tell)

Which specific person directed the KPD officers to take the severely injured man to the jail instead of to the hospital?

How many times a year does the jail refuse to book in a suspect because he or she obviously needs immediate medical care?

What does Commissioner Anders say on the dashcam video?

What is Anders story regarding his failure to review the video before signing off in the false reports?

Was Anders aware that the man was turned away from the jail and sent to the hospital
before he signed off on the false reports? Was he aware of the man's diagnoses of broken ribs etcetera before he signed off on the reports?

What do the other County Commissioners think of Anders' part in this? Will they have something to say about it as with Commissioner Ownby? Is censure going to be on the table?

What are the odds that Anders still may be charged with federal civil rights abuses in this case?

Why does Jamie Satterfield say that Anders acted out of laziness? What facts in this case lead her to feel comfortable giving her personal opinion regarding the motivations of a party in a story she's covering?

Average Guy's picture

The “knowns”

The KNS reported Thomas and Anders were reprimanded for not reviewing the most incriminating video before submitting what the paper said was “deceitful use of force reports”.

A poster here, using their own name, said Thomas was made aware of abuse beyond the video.

The video shows, what was said here, to be Anders at the 13min mark.

So far, the paper is not inaccurate, but its reporting is remarkably incomplete.

The reporter, in her own words, said the KPD Chief “tried to say” something about the case that wasn’t factual. That appears not to be the only thing they’re trying to say. What remains to be seen is if the paper is interested in following up on the new “knowns” since the story was first published.

Rachel's picture

WAIT!!! Who says Anders was

WAIT!!! Who says Anders was in the video? I haven't heard that, and the reason he was disciplined was for not viewing the video before accepting the use of force reports.

The only person I've heard say Anders was on the video is an anonymous person on KV. If I were that person, I'd be very, very careful before making that accusation, especially in light of the review done both by KPD and the district attorney. They released the video to the public; do you think they would have done that if Anders were in it w/o saying so???? Defies simple logic.

And frankly, this poster sounds like a person who has a vendetta against Anders. Who, btw, does NOT share my politics and who I think was irresponsible in not viewing the reports, but who does not deserve to be accused of things he didn't do.

So y'all let me know if anything substantive shows up in this thread; cause I'ma gonna quit reading it now.

KPD Stories's picture

see with your own eyes

"WAIT!!! Who says Anders was in the video? I haven't heard that, and the reason he was disciplined was for not viewing the video before accepting the use of force reports."

(link...)

Minute 12:29

That is Brad Anders. What do you think now?

Jamie Satterfield's picture

Anders

Anders was not suspended. He received a written reprimand. He was not on the scene when the beating took place but showed up after the victim had been placed in the paddy wagon for transport. Having said that, our government reporter is pursuing a follow up story related to Anders.

KPD Stories's picture

"Anders was not suspended. He

"Anders was not suspended. He received a written reprimand. He was not on the scene when the beating took place but showed up after the victim had been placed in the paddy wagon for transport. Having said that, our government reporter is pursuing a follow up story related to Anders."

I have two sources that tell me Anders was suspended. They are not WATE and WBIR.

Did you watch the video Jamie?

In the video around minute 12:45 Lt. Brad Anders looks at Michael Allen Mallicoat while he is still on the ground. A KPD car blocks the view of Mallicoat on the ground. It is much later in the video when Mallicoat is picked up off the ground. About twenty minutes later. Anders has left the scene before the time when Mallicoat is lifted off the ground by KPD officers.

None of what you say matches the video Jamie. Why is that?

As of now, KnoxNews has made the YouTube video private so it cannot be seen by the public. Why would that be? Why has the KPD dashboard video been blocked from public view?

Rachel's picture

I have two sources that tell

I have two sources that tell me Anders was suspended. They are not WATE and WBIR.

They weren't KPD and the Rogero administration either.

Put a sock in it.

Jamie Satterfield's picture

This is getting boring

The News Sentinel does not control YouTube. We did nothing to cause the video to be labeled private on YouTube's site. But for KNS and other media you would have had to shed your PJs, go to KPD, cough up $50 per video and order it yourself. We made it available. I am asking our online staff to check into why YouTube - not us - has made this private.
As far as your sources, I don't care if you have 6 zillion people saying Anders was suspended. He was not. That's a fact. Check his personnel record, no suspension, no loss of pay, no demotion. He was reprimanded.
I am curious though. Sgt. Shelton arrived before Anders. Why are you not raising a ruckus about his punishment, which also was a reprimand, not a suspension?
Should Anders have received stiffer punishment? Should Shelton? Capt. Thomas? I have an opinion on that, but my job is to report, not opine. I'll leave that to columnists like Ms. Strickland.
I spent many years on the police beat serving as a watch dog against police brutality and corruption back in the days of Phil Keith's administration. I am now the courts reporter and, therefore, do not have the day-to-day contact with the cop beat. However, I was the one who got a tip on this beating and broke the story. To suggest I am somehow covering for KPD is laughable frankly.

Observer's picture

Did you watch the video? Yes

Did you watch the video? Yes or no.

Anders was on the scene and you claim he wasn't?

Did you watch the video? Tell us.

Average Guy's picture

We made it available All of

We made it available

All of them?

Is there anyone at the KNS who can hit "alt+prtscn" on the video at 12:30 and ask who it is that enters the shot?

And yes, anybody acting like they didn't have information that they did, should be held accountable for what they knew and for what they acted like they didn't know.

Average Guy's picture

If it was Anders that entered

If it was Anders that entered the shot at 12:29, then he did not arrive after the victim was hauled away.

R. Neal's picture

[Anders] showed up after the

[Anders] showed up after the victim had been placed in the paddy wagon for transport.

This is incorrect if the person clearly visible in the video interviewing the officer about what happened was in fact Anders. The victim was still lying on the ground and the person alleged to be Anders is seen looking at him. The victim wasn't removed until about twenty minutes later, also clearly seen in the video.

If the person identified as Anders is in fact not him then never mind.

WATE will have to clarify and/or correct their statement about the suspension, but I'm inclined to believe it was mistakenly reported.

Newly restored video:

(link...)

Average Guy's picture

I wouldn't know Anders if he

I wouldn't know Anders if he bit me.

However I did try to match other pics on the web to the person at 12:29. The size and hairline match. Also, it appears that person is not wearing a vest, another indicator that he's someone not typically on the beat.

If its not, then it's not, but I think with 10,000 views it would be a good question to get answered.

Bbeanster's picture

Mallicoat was still there

Mallicoat was still there when Anders arrived.

STOP THE COVERUP's picture

God bless you Betty. What is

God bless you Betty. What is happening to our country? You are one of the few honest reporters left. You mean the world to us.

Bbeanster's picture

I don't for a minute believe

I don't for a minute believe that Jamie Satterfield is involved in a "coverup."

Also, it's not the job of newspapers, or any media, to police their coverage because of potential jury bias.

fischbobber's picture

I'm with you on this Betty.

What people tend to forget is that two newspapers generally doesn't mean one extra reporter per beat, it means that each competing entity will provide enough resources to out scoop the other. Often this means three or even four reporters more per beat than what would be there in a one paper town. Beating up on Jamie for a scoop outside here beat is ignorant.

You don't get thirty-six hours in a day just because you are a reporter.

Furthermore, if you don't think she exposed herself and career to personal risk by reporting this story to begin with, you don't know much about reporting, or writing for that matter, in this town.

The people on this thread are but the first of many that will be taking potshots at the target on her back.

Good luck Jamie.

Average Guy's picture

Looking at a video and not

Looking at a video and not seeing what others have seen is willful ignorance.

If it's not Anders at 12:29, then all the KNS staff that said first he wasn't there at all, should simply say so.

If it is, then every KNS report thus far has been inaccurate.

fischbobber's picture

The video

I watched the four camera version of the video and could tell by the cries of the victim that something was happening, but couldn't see what. Since I don't know which video (s) Ms. Satterfield watched, I'll have to reserve judgement as to what she missed.

My point was simply that in a town this size, the police beat should have somewhere between 4-6 reporters and we don't have near that. Where would this story be had Ms. Satterfield not left her beat to write it?

People tend to forget that there are only 24 hours in a day and that a person can only be in one place at one time. In addition, I think it is fair to say that this story wasn't served up on a silver platter.

Given all that has surfaced about this story, blaming someone at the front end of breaking it for publishing before a massive fact check and in-depth analysis seems silly.

I have fact checked Ms. Satterfield before and have never found her to willfully misrepresent the truth. What I have found is that without enough reporters taking different angles, sometimes what seems obvious, isn't.

I watched the video looking for the assault. I looked for shadows, I listened for thuds, looked for billy clubs, etc. but didn't put anything together. The story was pieced from other evidence. In retrospect, there is little doubt as to what happened, but putting the story together for publication was somewhat more difficult than is being acknowledged here.

Reporting and writing these stories isn't as easy as it seems and that is my point.

Average Guy's picture

“Believe none of what you

“Believe none of what you hear, and only half of what you see.”
Ben Franklin

Sage advice, and I'd say especially in journalism.

I'd also say it's that kind of advice that leads to double and triple sourcing.

So when another source, anonymous or not, says; "take another look", maybe a reporter should.

We're talking about a paper of record. Whether it takes one story or one hundred to line up the facts, then so be it.

If it was Anders at 12:29, then the "I didn't watch the video, so I didn't know how bad it was" excuse doesn't fly. If he laid eyes on a guy the Knox County jail turned away because of his injuries, he should have known how bad it was. If not, then he was incompetent.

If you're sent an email of a train wreck video, it may not make that big an impact or you may skip it all together. If you actually see a train wreck, you won't soon forget it.

I do respect Satterfield's work, but find the "conspiracy" and "bored" stuff a little condescending to the job. If more information exposes more to the story, write it. Dismissing it serves neither the law enforcement community nor the rest of the public.

fischbobber's picture

I understand

I understand what you're saying, and in a perfect world where the Knoxville market had two papers both working their collective asses off to be relevant, would agree wholeheartedly.

But we don't live in a perfect world, and at times, a beat can be a grind. The paper still has to go out every day and if you don't get it right, hell, we'll fix it. I'm at it with these guys right now over the spelling of names and researching stories because they are the paper of record, but the feeling I get in dealing with them is that they are just beat down and tired of dealing with constant shit. They don't care. Morale sucks at the Sentinel. Bitching ain't gonna fix it.

I've worked in the street for twenty-five years. I've written and, at times reported, for closer to thirty-five. The blame always goes to the last guy holding the box in the package industry. In the newspaper game it's the name on the article. In the cop biz, it's the guy who signs the report. Being the paper of record is an important function, but if only a few care about that function, how do you fix things?

Satterfield made a mistake and she owned it. But I've watched that video twice and she spent a hell of a lot more time on that story than just that video. (Of her own accord. That wasn't her beat. And there was quite a bit more research that went into the story than the video. I'm watching the thing in a two square inch space and I'm guessing the quality video she had wasn't better than that of a three year old Apple. Plus she's probably got other windows open at the time. The reality of Jamie's job is that it isn't as easy as it might seem.)

I agree with your general points, but the press in this town just doesn't work that way. That goes for everyone in every media reporting to the public. The message is censored.

The bottom line is that, even considering initial errors and omissions, it was a good story and she did the community a service by getting it to press. She doesn't deserve the flogging she's getting.

Observer's picture

miss something?

"Satterfield made a mistake and she owned it."

Jamie said Anders arrived on the scene after Mallincoat was taken away in the paddy wagon. That is not true.

Where did she admit she was wrong about that? Did I miss that?

fischbobber's picture

Missed it.

I watched the thing twice. I missed it.

How many times are you gonna make her cry uncle?

Geez louise. And Y'all act like the cops in the video are bad. It's easy to see how that behavior gets reinforced when you deal with folks like you.

It's a mistake. Ever made one? I have.

Average Guy's picture

I have fact checked Ms.

I have fact checked Ms. Satterfield before and have never found her to willfully misrepresent the truth. What I have found is that without enough reporters taking different angles, sometimes what seems obvious, isn't.

Maybe this is what I don’t understand. Witt followed up a few days after Satterfield’s original report. In those days, at least three people in the KNS newsroom knew there was a question about Anders’ presence on the scene. If they read their own comment section, more than three should have known.

Did Witt not know the question was out there? Does nobody at the KNS believe it matters?

And I agree there are just so many hours in a day and reporters are up against it.

But that brings me back to lining up the facts, which should be the goal, regardless how long it takes. During the Burchett campaign finance/divorce saga, anything “new” got a new article, usually above the fold.

And I’ll get in trouble over this one, but I also understand the cops. For better or worse, they see themselves as a brotherhood.

If one of my brothers was being attacked outside a door, I would run out the door as fast as I could.

If one of my sisters was being attacked, I would break down the door getting to her.

But these people are supposed to be trained to keep that kind of thing in check. And when it’s not checked by leadership, it’s seen as approval. The difference in the Anders situation is the difference between overlooking and ignoring.

To this KNS reader, the latter is much more egregious.

Bbeanster's picture

The video has been made

The video has been made 'private.'
Odd

So I'm flying by my (admittedly faulty) short term memory here, but I could see the hogtied Mallicoat's foot sticking up past the hood of the cruiser long past the time Anders was there. Not opining on Anders one way or the other, but I'm pretty sure the guy was on the ground while he was there.

One more edit: I do believe the KPD culture has changed since the Phil Keith era. I'd say that I.V. Owen began it and Rausch has doubled down.

fischbobber's picture

Ding. Ding. Ding.

And this weeks superjackpot drawing just might have a winner.

AnonymousOne's picture

When someone like Betty, or

When someone like Betty, or someone else trustworthy, gets this mess sorted out, let me know. But, right now, I am fairly assured all these unverfied commenters are commenting, because the KNS is reluctant to print the whole story.

This is not a privacy/personal issue. It's all about public servants, how they are held accountable, and who influences who in this town. And it until the KNS can be trusted to objectively report a story, the story will be reported on blogs like this. KNS seems on a continuing downward spiral in losing credibility.

Average Guy's picture

Reluctant

Still are; (link...)

R. Neal's picture

KNS follow up article:Brad

KNS follow up article:

Brad Anders acknowledges failure to view KPD video of February beating

The article does not mention that he was on the scene.

Interesting remark:

Anders said that instead of waiting for videos to be downloaded from the camera to a server, he would ask for the memory cards from officers immediately.

Observer's picture

I have the YouTube video up

I have the YouTube video up on my screen and the owner is "Knoxnews".

Why would YouTube make it private? How could a police organization claim a copyright on a public document? Who other than the YouTube owner could make the video private?

Observer's picture

You mean this?

(link...)

That takes some real brass doesn't it? Nice job Barker.

KPD Stories's picture

the video

Someone else made copy of the dashboard video.

(link...)

Bbeanster's picture

Evidently there are as many

Evidently there are as many dashboard videos as there were cruisers on the scene, giving different views of the event (like Jinnett standing on the guys back), which weren't on the one that the KNS had linked up.

BTW, it's pretty clear that Gene Patterson made a mistake re Anders' suspension.
I think some of this conspiracy theory goes back to the people who wanted to say that there was some kind of KPD plot to entrap Jeff Ownby. Evidently Anders has determined enemies and equally determined friends.

Bbeanster's picture

Rewatched some of it. At

Rewatched some of it. At 25:19, Anders walked to his cruiser and left the scene, so he was there for 12, 13 minutes. Shortly before he left, he asked one of the female officers to "swap out" her downloaded video so he could see it.
Also, the KPD paramedics were working on Mallicoat all during this time, and one of them asked one of the women when she first saw blood on him, so somebody on the scene had at least an inkling that something could be amiss.
Has the question of why they didn't take him straight to the hospital been answered?

Observer's picture

"Has the question of why they

"Has the question of why they didn't take him straight to the hospital been answered?"

Why was he taken to the jail first? That needs to be answered as well.

We all owe the non-verified who caught what everyone missed. Good work Former Reporter. You broke the real story. You've still got it.

redmondkr's picture

Just Downloaded and Stored

the latest incarnation of the video. I can't imagine You Tube making the earlier upload private, taking it down, yes, or muting the audio, yes, but not making it private. I have had videos of cover songs muted in the past by YT but they always sent emails telling me they did it.

The uploader is aware of the reason that video has become private.

R. Neal's picture

Curious, how do you download

Curious, how do you download a YouTube video?

redmondkr's picture

Add the Flash Video

Add the Flash Video Downloader extension to Firefox. It will place a download button with a pull down arrow on the YT page below the video. Click on the pull-down and select your choice of format and resolution.

I have some wonderful BBC HD documentaries on my Kindle using this method.

xmd's picture

try audials one. (link...)

try audials one. (link...)

Verax's picture

You Tube did not change the setting to privately

My thoughts at this point.

The discussion of conspiracy is loony. However the use of the word coverup is not loony in this situation. It's troubling that KPD officials and Mayor Rogero did not indicate the presence of County Commissioner Brad Anders at the scene looking at the injured, bloody man on the ground when they conducted their press conference with frame by frame replay of what the three officers who were charged are seen doing. I can't imagine that they didn't find it noteworthy that one of the supervisors who was disciplined is also seen on the tape behaving in a way that would be problematic even if he hadn't then signed off on the false reports by every one of the multiple liars in uniform at the scene that day.

As for the Sentinel, I don't believe there's any sort of purposeful conspiracy going on here that has anything to do with local politics. What we are seeing is sloppy reporting from start to now. Jamie Satterfield concedes that she and her editors both missed her failure to identify one of the disciplined KPD supervisors as a County Comissioner. We all make mistakes but that one hasn't been corrected in the online version of the story the last time I looked which was after Satterfield conceded her omission here at KnoxViews. Maybe that story has been corrected by now. I don't know.

Next Jamie Satterfield stated here at KnoxViews that Anders behavior in signing the false reports without due diligence was the result of "laziness." She did not say that this wAs her personal opinion (which she shouldn't be offering outside her reporting anyway) and she did not cite any source for this claim of hers which served as a de facto defense of Commissioner Anders actions by minimizing his motivations to the least disturbing option. I would still like Jamie Satterfield to clarify where she got her information regarding the known intentions of Anders in this matter. She's answered other questions on this blog and has made other statements and I would appreciate it if she would provide sources for her laziness explanation.

As for WATE it appears they made a factual error in reporting that Anders was suspected rather than just disciplined. That's similar to the factual error of omission that the Sentinel made in the first story . Like the Sentinel, WATE should issue a correction to their error to their audience.

Until a commenter on this blog pointed out that Brad Anders actually came to the scene that day, I don't think any journalists had even noticed that fact. It would have been helpful if Chief Raush and Mayor Rogero had pointed it out to the media in the press conference but they didn't. It seems that journalists who attended simply assumed that city officials had done all the legwork for them in identifying issues of consequence and details that might matter in the released dashcam videos so none of them took the time to do their own careful review of the tapes. The journalists were like lapdogs who were so grateful to city officials for spoon feeding them the material that they just spoon fed the same information as presented by the officials in the same way.

Then the Sentinel runs a story today about Anders' involvement in this situation and they don't even ID him as a county commissioner in the headline, and the whole story as published consists of Anders giving his version of what happened with no apparent effort by the Reporter to verify the facts of Anders version. That's not reporting that's a press release. I can't believe that the story doesn't even mention the fact that Anders came to the scene that day and saw the bloody man on the ground himself. Is there any way the public can read the reports that Anders approved? If the false reports describe a situation that doesn't match what Anders saw and heard on the scene that day, that's revealing. I also want to know who called Anders to the scene that day and why. Is that information something the public can access?

last but not least Jamie Satterfield next makes the statement on this blog that Anders doesn't appear on video until after the beaten up man was already gone. I've watched the video and that's very clearly not correct which makes me have to ask whether Satterfield viewed the video herself before writing the story where she didn't identify Anders as an elected official or whether her reporting consisted of regurgitating what was said by city officials in the press conference that day.

One final thing is that YouTube doesn't accidentally or purposely change the settings on a member account video from public to private. Saying that no one at the Sentinel changed that setting at that specific time when questions were being asked about how carefully the reporters there had watched the video is just an asinine, desperate excuse that makes no sense. Surely Satterfield could have come up with a more credible reason for the video being made private than blaming You Tube. I'm sure not many people at the Sentinel have administrative access to the newspaper's You Tube account so one of them changed it and they did it because someone in the news department instructed them to change it while they figured out whether Satterfield was wrong in her comments on this blog.

Verax's picture

I meant to say that WATE

I meant to say that WATE misreported that Anders was suspended not suspected.

Skinny's picture

I don't get it.

If KNS was trying to cover-up Anders involvement, why wouldn't they just delete his name from the article? Putting Anders' name in the story but not mentioning he is a county commissioner isn't a very good way of covering-up his involvement. Most people who follow local politics know that Brad Anders the police Lt. is Brad Anders the county commissioner.

It seems much more likely that the reporter just forgot to put in Anders alternate role as commissioner than it does to speculate she was acting on orders from her publisher.

AnonymousOne's picture

Or self-censorship. There's

Or self-censorship.

There's a lot of that, especially when it comes to reporting on certain entities and fsmilies in this town.

LEObserved's picture

more to story

An ambulance was dispatched to the scene and told to leave on arrival. The records of the paramedics activity log will show this. The suspect then lied face-down with life threatening injury for a long length of time before he was finly transported to the jail. KPD also had their forensics at the arrest location after the ambulance got sent back. There is more to the story that needs to come out.

KPD Stories's picture

coverup? what coverup?

I saw this strange Sentinel correction today. You don't see many corrections. It took almost a month for charges to be filed. Many think if neighbors had not made an issue of the beating nothing would ever had happened. To this day the KPD has not said that Lt. Anders was on the scene. Which is the second coverup, but whose counting anyway?

This gets more bizarre. Nothing to see here, move along.

"Tuesday’s editorial incorrectly stated that Knoxville police supervisors tried to cover up the beating of a homeless man by officers under their supervision. Capt. Eve Thomas, Lt. Brad Anders, who is also a county commissioner, and Sgt. John Shelton were reprimanded for the way they handled their review of the case. But an internal affairs investigation found no evidence of a deliberate attempt to cover up the beating."

(link...)

Unverified on Kv's picture

Come on KNS. Now KPD has made

Come on KNS. Now KPD has made you print a retraction on a technicality of phrasing. Time to bring your A game and start asking more questions. Y'all are capable of really good investigative journalism. Time to deploy it. It won't be hard to make the factual case that Anders did exactly what you first described in the editorial before somebody at KPD or city government made you take it back. Go ask the questions that haven't been asked and demand answers, pull more records that haven't been reviewed, interview civilian witnesses (their names are all in the KPD IF report that you have already published online) and prove that you had it right in that editorial. Lots of us will be rooting for you.

AnonymousOne's picture

Don't hold your breath. KNS

Don't hold your breath. KNS is the favored PR sheet for a few in our fair town, and it does so willingly.

It's reason for being is not to tell the objective truth; it's reason for being is to help their favorites in Knox politics.

KPD Stories's picture

KPD denial this morning

Was driving and listening to the car radio about 15 minutes ago. Heard on WKVL 850 AM that KPD has said that the person that appears to be Brad Anders on the KPD video is NOT Lt. Brad Anders.

Also heard on the radio that the ambulance that came to the scene was waived off. Not sure why, no other information was given. The radio station did not give the name of the KPD contact who made these statements.

Average Guy's picture

I would hope the incident

I would hope the incident report lists everyone on scene.

The report should make it easy to figure out who was and wasn't there.

Have the incident or disciplinary reports been published or made public anywhere?

KPD Stories's picture

KPD denies Friday denial

On WKVL 850 am this morning host Mike Howard said that KPD changed their story from Friday. On Friday KPD denied that Lt. Brad Anders was on the scene. So Mike Howard went to KPD and got the six videos and watched four of them.

Howard called KPD and told them that Lt. Anders was on the scene and anyone who watched the video could see that. KPD said they never claimed that Lt. Anders was not on the scene but he was on the scene after Michael Mallincoat had been taken away.

Howard said on air this morning that this is a "very poor coverup". He said you can see Mallincoat's feet in the camera frame above the hood of one of the KPD patrol cars the entire time Lt. Anders is on the scene.

KPD also said that Lt. Anders has publicly said he was on the scene. Mike Howard of WKVL said he can find that no where in any media.

This backs up what Jamie Satterfield said KPD told her.

Today is the County Commission meeting. Will the coverup spread to Commission?

Bbeanster's picture

No, no, No!Brad Anders is

No, no, No!
Brad Anders is not planning a run against the present sheriff. He wasn't talking about running before 2018. Probably will be eligible for a KPD pension by then, as well.

I imagine that might change if a court ruled Jones ineligible because of term limits, however.
But Anders has not shown himself to be an enemy of the current regime and I have a hard time figuring out what you're talking about, Toby.

And, wrt to the 'other' candidate, I don't know whether Wiser is seriously running or seriously aiming to get under the present sheriff's skin. There's no love lost here.

Bbeanster's picture

Supervising 'what' is a legit

Supervising 'what' is a legit question.

Observer's picture

"Supervising 'what' is a

"Supervising 'what' is a legit question."

He supervised that the mentally ill intoxicated homeless man with a punctured lung and broken ribs was bound by his hands and feet for the twenty minutes he was on the scene.

Average Guy's picture

I'd really like to know on

I'd really like to know on what basis the jail turned Malicoat away.

If medical inspection, Anders could get a "get out of trouble free" card.

If appearance, then Anders has problems.., if anyone notices.

R. Neal's picture

I believe Betty Bean said

I believe Betty Bean said last week in the Shopper (can't link to it) that this guy is running.

DanteMalebranche's picture

Why is Donila leaving the KNS now?

Why is Donila leaving the KNS now? ...Is it a credibility crisis?

R. Neal's picture

Wait, what?

Wait, what?

Rachel's picture

According to Mr. Shock & Awe,

According to Mr. Shock & Awe, he's going to WBIR.

SnM's picture

Oh yeah. That's it. Right.

Oh yeah. That's it. Right.

Observer's picture

Wow. Another story not in the

Wow. Another story not in the KNS.

DanteMalebranche's picture

????????

Is this a form of self censure?

SnM's picture

It's no secret that print

It's no secret that print media everywhere is under an enormous economic squeeze. Certainly, print journalists are going to be looking for opportunities in other media. And what is the most common motivation for people to change jobs?

R. Neal's picture

KNS with sudden new interest

KNS with sudden new interest long after the horse left the barn:

(link...)

Observer's picture

???

(link...)

"24:38 — Anders approaches Mallicoat as the ambulance crew attends to him, leans down and appears to say something. Anders then walks back to his cruiser. Rural/Metro ambulance crew leaves shortly thereafter."

How does KPD originally claim that Anders was on the scene AFTER Mallincoat had left in the paddy wagon?

Average Guy's picture

Anders said

The abuse, he said, "would be hard to explain" and "some of it was unnecessary."

And there in lies the rub.

NO ABUSE of a subdued suspect is "necessary".

Regardless the outcome, thanks Don Jacobs.

Verax's picture

Where are the documents?

Jacobs refers to many documents and messages in his story but the source materials aren't made available to readers as has become the norm with stories of this kind. I hope they will be.

Verax's picture

Can anyone tell me whether

Can anyone tell me whether appropriate police procedure ever allows any suspect in any circumstance to be trussed up face down like the bleeding man in the photograph in Jacobs' story? I suspect this kind of "hold" is not permitted. If KPD disallows this kind of face first hogtie of suspects, why did supervisors Anders and Shelton not immediately change the man's position when they got there?

Also, it appears that police work is the only kind of public service where you can literally be caught on videotape screaming at a member of the public you serve that you are going to bust that person's head (as the female officer yelled at the suspect as she left) and be allowed to keep your job. She had plenty of time to cool down and she was in no danger yet she bullies the bleeding man tied up on the ground by threatening to hurt him next time she sees him.

Local Citizen's picture

Anders

If a person is in with the "right" crowd, then you can do
no wrong. If Anders wants to be sheriff and he is the chosen one, then he will be the next sheriff. End of discussion.

KPD Stories's picture

That was a telling KNS story

That was a telling KNS story today. It answered a lot of questions. Was Lt. Anders on the scene with Michael Mallincoat? Yes. Was an ambulance there? Yes.

Two big questions left. Who turned away the ambulance? Who decided to send Mallincoat to the county jail instead of the hospital?

Does KPD plan to come forward with the answers? Or do bloggers, a radio station, and the KNS, have to go and find the answer?

DontYouWish's picture

Why isn't the media asking questions

Today's KNS story was puzzling. The reporter indicated that he had reviewed many records related to the incident but they aren't identified clearly and unlike with most newspaper stories nowadays that rely on public records, the material the reporter used to write his story wasn't made available to readers to view for ourselves. This is odd. Also odd is the way in which the story missed the forest for the trees. It raises questions it never attempts to answer. The reporter mentions trying to ring the woman who made the citizen complaint but never mentions so much as attempting to speak to Chief Rausch, Mayor Rogero or any of the officers involved to ask the outstanding questions.

In a comment on this blog, a witness states that she exchanged emails with Officer Thomas about what she saw yet Supervisor Thomas signed off on the false reports. If it's true that a citizen alerted Thomas to what was seen during the arrest, she had clear reason to know the need to fully investigate before signing off on those false reports. I'd like to know when those reports were signed by the supervisors. Did the KNS reporter review the false reports? What exactly did the officers on the scene claim happened?

As for Commissioner Anders, how is he still employed? He's seen observing a man bleeding from the face and head and tied up face down on the ground. There's blood on a patrol car so obvious that he inquires about it on camera. What did he say to Mr. Mallicoat when he leaned over and spoke to him while the paramedics attended to him on the ground? Has anyone even bothered to ask Anders this question? Why did Anders not order the obviously injured and fully subdued man to be turned on his side or back? Has anyone bothered to ask Rural Metro who called them to the scene and what that officer said regarding the condition of the suspect? Somebody there thought Mr. Mallicoat needed emergency medical care. Rural Metro also needs to be asked for their records regarding their assessment of Mr. Mallicoat's condition. Did they simply miss bleeding and broken bones and a punctured lung? That's unlikely. It's more likely and far more disturbing that they made note of the seriousness of Mr. Mallicoat's physical injuries but still left him there on the ground, tied up and bleeding because someone in authority instructed them to stop administering care and leave. Why on earth did the reporter not ask about this?

Most glaringly, Chief Rausch and Mayor Rogero, both of whom generally seem to be honest and earnest individuals, need to be asked the obvious question of why officers they note in their own disciplinary reports to have failed to stop a brutal beating and then lied about it have been allowed to remain employed. All due props for forcing the resignation of the three primary attackers, but is it not just as alarming and illegal for officers on the scene to simply stand and watch? One of the female officers even took the time as she left to verbally threaten the injured suspect she had just seen beaten with physical violence the next time she saw them. Is threatening a member of the public like that not in and of itself an offense for which an officer can be terminated?

So many questions and no attempt whatsoever to answer them. Why would a reporter go to the trouble to rewrite essentially the same story from two weeks ago without moving it forward in any way? I want to see that "8 inch" stack of documents that the reporter says he looked over to write his story. I want these unanswered questions answered.

DontYouWish's picture

A final question; why was KPD

A final question; why was KPD forensics called to the scene as noted in today's KNS coverage and what did the forensics officers do?

R. Neal's picture

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