Tue
May 22 2012
02:04 pm

Just got a robocall from Mayor Burchett asking me to oppose the "large tax increase."

I wonder if these calls are being paid for from county funds.

Rachel's picture

BTW, my Commissioner seems

BTW, my Commissioner seems supportive of the increase in the SB budget. May be why we're getting these calls south of the river.

AnonyMouse's picture

I'd love to know who is

I'd love to know who is paying for it!

alan swartz's picture

I'd love to know who is paying for it!

I was told by my Commissioner Tim Burchett paid for it personally.

rikki's picture

Allison tweets

"Are you kidding? Pay your own bills first! There are stacks of past dues! Not to mention the NSF's! Shall I post pics?!"

AnonyMouse's picture

What's a NSF?

What's a NSF?

R. Neal's picture

Bounced check (non-sufficient

Bounced check (non-sufficient funds).

AnonyMouse's picture

Sorry, I found it online.

Sorry, I found it online. "Not Sufficient Funds" would be my guess.

Pickens's picture

second wave of robo calls starting?

Got a voice mail last night from 865-512-8738, showing Powell, TN on caller ID.

The gist was that Mike Hammond was supporting either a property tax increase or a sales tax increase for the schools and was wondering if I'd support Hammond for re-election because he favored higher taxes.

I called the 865-512-8738 number this morning and it has been disconnected. What a classy campaign to drive by, shoot and then pull the plug on the operation.

Pam Strickland's picture

Isn't Hammond term limited?

Isn't Hammond term limited? And my understanding is that he is not at all for a sales tax increase. Matter of fact, the only commission who seems to want a sales tax increase is Briggs. And if I say so, a sales tax increase is not going to get any traction.

Pickens's picture

IIRC, Hammond was the one who

IIRC, Hammond was the one who proposed a sales tax increase around the first week of May.

I don't recall if he's one of the people with a partial term which may or may not count towards term limits.

Brian A.'s picture

I also got a call. How much

I also got a call.

How much does robo-calling cost?

Rachel's picture

Not a lot, but it's not free.

Not a lot, but it's not free.

michael kaplan's picture

i got one asking me to

i got one asking me to contact my commissioner amy broyles, and included her phone number.

my question is: what happens if there is a $35 million shortfall? charter schools?

Anonymous77's picture

No shortfall

there won't be a shortfall - it is a requested increase and if it is not funded it will not have to affect the functioning of the school system. A state mandated raise and guaranteed step increase will continue for teachers, but the performance pay scheme will not be funded. Other schemes, most notably the technology windfall, will not occur.

Bbeanster's picture

Unbunch your panties, folks--

Burchett's got a campaign kitty and a hefty salary. No reason he can't be paying for this himself, and while it's interesting when you first hear about it, I don't understand why some people find it shocking. It's a perfectly legit tactic, as it would be if, say, McIntyre were doing it.

Rachel's picture

I don't find it shocking,

I don't find it shocking, just worthy of note.

And I'd still like to know who paid for it. As you say, it could well have been the Mayor personally.

And I'd like to know if the calls are going to the entire county, or are just targeted by district. So far, the only folks I've heard got one are in the 2nd (Broyles) and the 9th (Brown).

Where's your usual journalistic curiosity, Bean?

Bbeanster's picture

And I'd like to know if the

And I'd like to know if the calls are going to the entire county, or are just targeted by district. So far, the only folks I've heard got one are in the 2nd (Broyles) and the 9th (Brown).

Where's your usual journalistic curiosity, Bean?

Evidently the calls are targeting pro-McIntyre commissioners, since I got one urging me to call Amy Broyles.

He's just doing what they do...

Tamara Shepherd's picture

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Brian, are you also in the 2nd or the 9th?

I'm in the 6th and I haven't gotten one, nor heard from anyone else in my district who has.

Brian A.'s picture

I live in the fightin' 3rd.

I live in the fightin' 3rd.

redmondkr's picture

At least he's making the

At least he's making the robo-calls in Knox County instead of say, in Kansas.

Gregg Lonas's picture

We received one.

We received one in the 8th district.

Tamara Shepherd's picture

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We received one in the 8th district.

Where does Dave Wright stand on the budget request?

(We know Mike McMillan voted against it, of course.)

Rachel's picture

My understanding is that Dave

My understanding is that Dave Wright is a no. However, I haven't talked to Commissioner Wright himself.

michael kaplan's picture

I just attended the 4th

I just attended the 4th district Democratic Party meeting and no one in the area (Bearden, Sequoia Hills) had received a call.

Bbeanster's picture

i'd bet money that Dave's a

i'd bet money that Dave's a no.

I just don't see where 7 votes to override a veto will come from.

Rachel's picture

I can see them getting to 6 -

I can see them getting to 6 - but 7 seems really hard.

However it comes out, I want to thank them for having a real honest to goodness discussion of this issue.

Bbeanster's picture

Tony Norman's a no, i betcha.

Tony Norman's a no, i betcha. He really doesn't like the school administration.

Sandra Clark's picture

Not what they all do

I must differ with my colleague Bean.

It's rather odd and outside my range of memory to see a county executive robo-call to lobby citizens to lobby commissioners on the budget. What's next? Billboards?

Tim Burchett has been defensive about his opposition to the school board's budget since the day he made his budget address and told commissioners if they dared to pass a tax increase he would veto it. THEN he embarked on a whirlwind tour of the county allegedly to hear from citizens. Fact is, he had his mind made up.

I strongly support the school board's budget and remain optimistic that the needed 7 votes will be there on commission. Actually, I think those votes have been there since day one and Burchett knows it. Why else hit the panic button?

Seems both Beanster and Burchett have lapsed into campaign mode. -- s.

Update's picture

Story this Monday about the

Story this Monday about the $518 million dollars Knox Schools spend last year that they claimed was only $420 million?

Bbeanster's picture

Seems both Beanster and

Seems both Beanster and Burchett have lapsed into campaign mode. -- s.

Not hardly.
Unlike other folks, I haven't campaigned at all. I'm pretty unemotional about this one and although I'd love to see the schools better funded, and I'd probably be more enthusiastic if teachers liked this plan a little better.

But I do hope the schools get way more than they're getting. And it wouldn't bother me none to pay a little higher property tax.

Stick's picture

Hear, hear!

Hear, hear!

EconGal's picture

Bean soup

I really like cyber personas of Sandra Clark and Betty Bean. Never met either of them, although I've swapped emails a few times with one of them.

I like the way they can disagree. I like the precise, economical way each of them writes.

fischbobber's picture

Tim's blowing this one.

I've known Tim since 1982. We've generally disagreed on politics though from time to time we've known common ground.

On this issue, he is way off base. He can let a referendum or vote by commission get through without his signature and he would be wise to do it. It's the right thing to do and he knows it. Right now, he is signing on with the Cas Walker style of government as opposed to the Victor Ashe style. If I may be so bold, I predict that Tim will be beaten by Victor in the next election if the tax increase does not go through. Everyone involved in the issue of education knows that the money simply isn't there to run an education system in an industrialized nation.

The teachers everyone talks about wanting literally can't talk about what they are doing for fear that someone in labor law is going to look at why they aren't getting paid for their overtime. In other words, they work off the clock for the betterment of their children. It's not right, or legal, and everyone paying attention, including Tim, knows our system is stretched as far as it can go.

How does one justify a local Middle School of over 1000 children only having 8 track uniforms for a team of fifty plus kids? Seriously? Textbooks? Try buying a REAL textbook that conforms to our idiot legislatures regulations for less than $250.00 a pop. It called collateral damage for electing morons. I just got the robocall from McIntyre encouraging me to read to my thirteen year old this summer. Really? More on me? Jesus buddy, he just knocked out another top 1% on TCAPS. How about some help on all the out of pocket expenses I incur to justify your salary. How about some uniforms for our athletic teams or at least some community extracurricular activities the we can man the refreshment stands at in order to raise funds for our school functions. How about someone with the balls to stand up and say,"Look Tim, You're wrong. Get on the right side of this issue. There is just not enough money to run a 21st century school system."

Rachel's picture

I agree with much of this

I agree with much of this post, but....

Victor Ashe will win a county wide election when hell freezes over.

fischbobber's picture

Hear me now, believe me later

Victor is the shrewdest politician this town has produced in my lifetime. If Burchett doesn't take care of the schools the option will be Victor's and he will have the opportunity to ride it to the mayor's office should he so desire. He has made a career out of being underestimated.

Write it down.

Rachel's picture

I'll write it down if you'll

I'll write it down if you'll eat it when it doesn't happen. Do you realize how much folks outside the City limits hate Victor?

fischbobber's picture

I'll do you one better.

Make it a sandwich at Frussies. It won't be the first election Victor has won with people that hate him voting for him. He still has that big ole R by his name and the pull to get nominated.

Rachel's picture

Never gonna happen. But

Never gonna happen. But you're on.

bizgrrl's picture

Hope you are right. I do not

Hope you are right. I do not hate Victor Ashe. It's just time for Knoxville, Knox County to move on.

alan swartz's picture

What good did Victor Ashe do

What good did Victor Ashe do for Knoxville? List it. He threw off to the county the sewer system, city jail, city libraries, and shared credit with Kyle Testerman for the schools. Knoxville should have been in the money. The city didn't do anything. Yet Victor raised taxes time and time again. For what? And don't forget that big white Elephant downtown. He shares that with Bill Haslam. Other than some park creation and expansion, what good did Victor do? Why on earth would anyone want that man for any office? The only time we were safe was when he was in Poland. He is a disaster.

Tamara Shepherd's picture

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...although I'd love to see the schools better funded, and I'd probably be more enthusiastic if teachers liked this plan a little better.

But I do hope the schools get way more than they're getting. And it wouldn't bother me none to pay a little higher property tax.

Me three, Betty and Stick.

I certainly haven't been "campaigning against" the budget increase/tax increase, I hope you guys know.

I'd just like to see some of it allocated differently, especially in regard to how it would spend on teachers.

This is the smartest juncture at which parties wanting to stress such a point should do it.

No one, including school board members, is likely to pay much attention to a request of this sort after the budget is funded.

fischbobber's picture

True that

Politics does indeed make strange bedfellows and there is no way around this tax increase being absolutely necessary.

While it is important to continue to press for openness , transparency, and accountability within our school system as well as an ongoing vigilance to make sure our public dollars don't fall into the hands of hacks and cronies, if there's not enough money to run an average system, then no one wins and in fact, our entire community loses.

The budget increase needs to pass for the sake of our community.

Rachel's picture

I certainly haven't been

I certainly haven't been "campaigning against" the budget increase/tax increase,

You could have fooled me. Honestly.

mld's picture

County Budget

Tennessee has moved up in the last few years from 51st in the nation (counting D.C.) to 46 or 47th in expenditures per student. Knox County per pupil expenditures are lower than many systems in this area. Knox County ranks 3rd in Tennessee in the ability to pay taxes. We need to fund our schools and meet the needs of our kids. It is just common sense that a better education will cost at least what the leading Tennessee systems are paying. Not only that, investing in educating our kids will do more in the long term to attract businesses and jobs and expand the tax base for Knox County.

The Budget that the school board proposes will not pass after all is said and done. The Commission will never look out for what is really in the best long term interests of our community. They will always look out for getting re-elected. It is all about them. In this case, I agree that the $35m should not go for what the school board is asking. Most of the money over the next five years is earmarked for merit pay for teachers. This is a huge mistake. We know that all serious studies have shown that merit pay is not effective in improving our schools. What is needed is across the board raises for our teachers. What the School Board should focus on is lowering class sizes, keeping experienced teachers, giving students the technology that is needed, preparing college bound students for college and teaching vocational skills to non-college bound students. In the long term, the proposed budget will hurt the chances of eventually getting substantial funds to do the things that actually will improve education in Knox County.

The School Board should not follow the political agenda of our politicians. The School Board needs to maintain their independence and lead the way in improving our schools. They need to do their research better. They have been a disappointment to the citizens of Knox County.

Tamara Shepherd's picture

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My eyes have been opened concerning Jim McIntyre, Rachel.

I don't trust him to allocate it properly and I think the school board has to date followed his recommendations blindly.

Two school board members to have called me at home told me that they "had to" adopt this APEX teacher evaluation model due to promises we extended in our Race to the Top app, but that's not true.

The First to the Top legislation adopted to pave the way for that successful RttT app didn't require four to six annual evaluations of each and every teacher, it required only one. I've shared the applicable statute here more than once.

The FttT legislation didn't require that those "test-less" teachers be evaluated on the basis of some other teachers' students' test scores, either. See above.

Also, these same two school board members to have called me didn't know that it wasn't Broad Resident Nakia Townes, who presented the APEX model to them, who designed it. They'd never heard of Battelle for Kids.

Those same two board members also told me they "had to" adopt strategic comp for teachers, too, but I still don't know why they're saying so.

I've used the "find" feature in the pdf file for the 264-page RttT app to search for the terms "merit pay," "pay for performance," and "strategic comp" and none of those terms appear in the app.

I feel strongly, then, that Jim McIntyre doesn't have much regard for his staff and I know for certain that many of his staff feel the same way. They've written me and told me face-to-face.

On the basis of these above circumstances, and because he previously proposed outsourcing some support staff, and because he has located the only two schools to have been built during his tenure in facilities that are leased rather than owned, I am deeply concerned that he is someone drinking the Broad Foundation Kool-Aid, namely a "corporate reformer" dismissive of his employees and supportive of school privatization.

Like I said in my earliest posts on this subject, it's felt hugely counter-intuitive to me to have raised these issues at this juncture--because I do think our schools require greater funding--but I have also come to distrust both McIntyre's ability to lead his staff and his vision for our school system.

It's been hard for me to simultaneously advocate for this budget and against his continuing as our superintendent.

But that's where I stand.

Rachel's picture

It's been hard for me to

It's been hard for me to simultaneously advocate for this budget and against his continuing as our superintendent.

It's been hard for us to understand that's where you were. Glad you made it clear.

Tamara Shepherd's picture

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Well, actually I should have said that I'm "for the tax increase necessary to fund this budget" (since I'm not actually for the budget allocation itself).

But if we're now square with each other, I'm glad, too.

Barker's picture

glad

Glad you've come around to at least supporting more money for the school system, Tamara, despite your reservations about how it's to be spent (at least I think that's what you're saying). Before, you'd called strategic compensation a "deal killer." I'm pleased you have not made the perfect the enemy of the good. Especially when you can live another day to do battle over strategic compensation.

Tamara Shepherd's picture

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I never once said I didn't support more money for the school system, Scott. I've complained repeatedly only about the proposal's allocation of funds.

My reference to strategic comp being a "deal killer" referred to the extent to which commissioners might balk at funding the proposal if all our teachers were to slam them.

I've only spoken with three commissioners about the budget proposal and all three said they'd gotten hundreds of e-mails from angry teachers, so they have been slammed.

Meanwhile, not a single school board member has expressed to me his/her inclination to reexamine the APEX evaluation model, the line item dedicated to strategic comp, or any other line item allocation.

They all appear to be doggedly attached to what some of us still think is an inane spending plan, at least in part.

Stick's picture

Hear, hear!

Hear, hear!

Indya K.'s picture

Not doggedly attached

Tamara,

Our conversation was not how you described above, but perhaps you're referring to chats with other School Board members.

I'll reiterate a point I made on an earlier thread. I am dogged in the effort to have an effective educator in every classroom for every student. I'm flexible on how that happens.

I will continue to listen to teachers and modify our strategies and spending priorities as needed. The budget comes before us annually.

More resources will make a huge difference in our efforts. This is a rare window of opportunity to invest more in our schools and I hope we have the political courage to do it.

Indya

peixao's picture

Courage?

More like blind faith you're asking for.

I support the schools, but I have lost all trust in this superintendent and this school board.

Where's the courage in failing to give the superintendent anything he could improve on? If he's already perfect, I want to see him stroll across the Tennessee River.

We'll be #1 in testing, that's for sure. Don't see the impacts in the classroom from the way you guys plan to spend the $35 million. I'd rather see teacher pay improved without the intellectual gymnastics involved in the merit pay scheme.

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