After responding via comment to Randy Neal's last post about the KTSC situation, I realized that my comment was more of a post of its own, so I'm publishing it here.
What I noted in my response to Randy was that with regard to the issues raised regarding KTSC in recent weeks, basically, our community has now been made aware - many of us for the first time - that we have had a very expensive, quasi- governmental agency providing an important service without any of the basic processes of oversight and accountability to which "real" government agencies and departments are subjected when money is spent. And because KTSC was disconnected from any meaningful oversight from, well, anyone, we ended up here.
However, I do not believe KTSC is the only contracted service provider to local government running amok due to lack of oversight once the contract is signed. It is my belief that we have a substantially similar situation in the the way that Knox County contracts with private vendor University Pathologists to provide Medical Examiner services to the tune of $970,000 annually.
However, in the case of University Pathologists' operation of the ME's office, the services being provided are more sensitive and important to citizens, and the money paying the bill comes out of general county tax revenue rather than a special set aside tax. Even though we pay University Pathologists nearly $1 million annually in tax dollars, they - like KTSC - have NO meaningful oversight or accountability to any individual or department within Knox County government. Once the contract was signed, they were pretty much cut loose to do as they please with no one paying any attention.
Just try finding the "Office of the Knox County Medical Examiner" on the official Knox Co org chart. Try figuring out which department head or department in Knox Co. Government oversees the ME's office. Try finding any quarterly reports by the ME's office. Try finding any meaningful or specific documentation of how the nearly $1 million annually we pay University Pathologists is broken out and spent. Heck, pretend you are a bereaved Knox County citizen who needs to get in touch with the Office of the ME, and then try even finding a phone number or email address thru which to make such a contact. Good luck with that.
Last summer, and then again last month I sent a carefully documented 16 page letter to each member of Knox County Commission, as well as to several other public officials. The letter detailed my serious concerns regarding the way the Office of the Knox County ME is being funded and overseen.
You can read my letter here - along with all the documentation - and I hope that t least a few folks will read it.
If you read my letter, you will note that I reference two attached documents and here they are:
-a copy of the most recent contract I've found (April 2010) between Knox County and University Pathologists
- a copy of a 2008 private audit of very limited scope that looked at the operations of the Office of the Knox County Medical Examiner.
I am pleased that as of two weeks ago, based on my letter and the specific issues it raised, the members of the Knox County Audit Committee decided to move forward with an audit of the Office of the Knox County Medical Examiner.
I look forward to the completion of this audit, and I hope in the meantime, local journalists will consider giving this very important and costly Knox County contract the rigorous review it deserves.
-Katie Allison Granju
Knoxville, TN
|
Topics:
|
|
Discussing:
- Are Chat bots a waste of time? (1 reply)
- Smith & Wesson noise problem (1 reply)
- Musicians dropping out of President's Freedom Concert Series (1 reply)
- It's time for new blood in Congress, Barnett in - Burchett out (1 reply)
- Burning Down The House... (2 replies)
- Behind Lege Lies (1 reply)
- Peace (1 reply)
- Speak your truth, fight and believe. (1 reply)
- Large banks have too much AI data center debt? (1 reply)
- GOP misleading on federal health care funding (1 reply)
- Feds indict civil rights group (3 replies)
- Georgia issues burn ban, first time in state history (2 replies)
TN Progressive
- Smith & Wesson not a good fit for Blount County (BlountViews)
- Pellissippi Parkway extension delayed again (BlountViews)
- Blount County early voting record turnout (BlountViews)
- Louisville, TN, town center coming soon? (BlountViews)
- WATCH THIS SPACE. (Left Wing Cracker)
- America As It Is Right Now (RoaneViews)
- A friend sent this: From Captain McElwee's Tall Tales of Roane County (RoaneViews)
- The Meidas Touch (RoaneViews)
- Massive Security Breach Analysis (RoaneViews)
- (Whitescreek Journal)
- My choices in the August election (Left Wing Cracker)
- July 4, 2024 - aka The Twilight Zone (Joe Powell)
TN Politics
- Judge allows UFC cage matches to go ahead on White House lawn (TN Lookout)
- Stockard on the Stump: Tennessee keeping intensive probation program alive – barely (TN Lookout)
- Tennessee waste task force eyes changes to law allowing local rejection of landfills (TN Lookout)
- Nearly half of adults struggled to afford healthcare last year, survey finds (TN Lookout)
- Trump says ‘great settlement’ of Iran war in the works, signing ceremony soon (TN Lookout)
- ‘The Dumocrats are at it again’: Trump attack on California election offers midterm preview (TN Lookout)
Knox TN Today
- PAT the play returns to the stage in June (Knox TN Today)
- Easy Bacon & Swiss Quiche: Breakfast meal prep (Knox TN Today)
- Grayson boosts Ijams + In memoriam: Nic Arning, Bob Monday (Knox TN Today)
- Meet Slinky: The adventure buddy you’ve been wanting (Knox TN Today)
- Dining Duo goes to Vandergriff’s (Knox TN Today)
- Zoo Knoxville introduces Summer Concert Series (Knox TN Today)
- Food City named 2026 Retailer of the Year (Knox TN Today)
- 6/12 HEADLINES: News and events from Knox, World, USA, Tennessee & Historic Notes (Knox TN Today)
- Close to Home, Far from Ordinary: Townsend, TN, Ranks #9 destination on one tank of gas (Knox TN Today)
- Hiking with Harrington: Big Creek Trail (Knox TN Today)
- Falling Water Branch Falls: A 2020 Visit, Helene’s scars, and three new waterfalls (Knox TN Today)
- Lily in Red (Knox TN Today)
Local TV News
- How drones helped first responders get eyes on Morgan County train derailment (WATE)
- Unexpected rock issues push Alcoa Highway project end date, frustrating drivers (WATE)
- Woman charged after toddler left alone in car at Knoxville Walmart (WATE)
- Nonprofit brings veterans to Pigeon Forge for camaraderie and healing (WATE)
- Woman convicted in 1995 Knoxville murder challenging constitutionality of lethal injection (WATE)
- Unoccupied SUV crashes into Hamblen County home, displacing family (WATE)
News Sentinel
State News
- Healthcare dominates conversation with Republican primary opponents for Tennessee House - Chattanooga Times Free Press (Times Free Press)
- After Bonnaroo 2025 was a loss, organizers hoping for win in 2026 - Chattanooga Times Free Press (Times Free Press)
- Rock City gondola rejected by Lookout Mountain planners - Chattanooga Times Free Press (Times Free Press)
- Internet thinks World Cup team in Chattanooga is ‘hilarious.’ Local leaders don’t think so - Chattanooga Times Free Press (Times Free Press)
Wire Reports
- Kennedy Center misses deadline to remove Trump’s name, citing storms - The Washington Post (US News)
- U.S. and Iran close to signing ceasefire deal, officials say - The Washington Post (US News)
- Niño Guerrero: US kills leader of Tren de Aragua gang in strike, Trump says - BBC (US News)
- Tent collapses during Virginia church's 20th anniversary celebration, killing 1 and injuring 22 - AP News (US News)
- Elon Musk becomes the first trillionaire as SpaceX soars in its market debut - The Washington Post (Business)
- Anthropic shuts down Fable, Mythos models following Trump admin directive - Ars Technica (Business)
- Judge orders Trump administration to restore national park signage on climate change, slavery - Los Angeles Times (US News)
- Spencer Pratt concedes LA mayor race, but declares ‘war’ against advancing candidates - The Guardian (US News)
- Musk Is the World’s First Trillionaire. Who Was the First Billionaire? - The New York Times (Business)
- Trump's GOP allies draw a line in the sand on Iran - Politico (US News)
- Justice Dept. approves Paramount's acquisition of Warner Bros. Discovery - NPR (Business)
- Stock Market Today: Dow Ends Higher On Iran Deal Hopes; SpaceX Rockets 19% In Debut - Investor's Business Daily (Business)
- US judge indefinitely blocks Trump's 'anti-weaponization' fund - Reuters (US News)
- Former SpaceX welder becomes a millionaire after historic IPO - CBS News (Business)
Local Media
Lost Medicaid Funding
Search and Archives
TN Progressive
Nearby:
- Blount Dems
- Herston TN Family Law
- Inside of Knoxville
- Instapundit
- Jack Lail
- Jim Stovall
- Knox Dems
- MoxCarm Blue Streak
- Outdoor Knoxville
- Pittman Properties
- Reality Me
- Stop Alcoa Parkway
Beyond:
- Nashville Scene
- Nashville Post
- Smart City Memphis
- TN Dems
- TN Journal
- TN Lookout
- Bob Stepno
- Facing South

Just to clarify, I think your
Just to clarify, I think your concerns about University Pathologists are valid and that it's a troubling situation. I don't think the analogy to KTSC goes much beyond both organizations being county vendors. For starters, as a nonprofit, KTSC meets transparency and oversight standards U.P. would likely scoff at. The motivations of for-profit companies are very different, tempting them to do things like use Knox Co resources for Loudon Co autopsies without compensating Knox Co.
In the KTSC discussion on the Blab, Scott Barker said a 2010 court decision determined that Corrections Corp of America is subject to many of the same open records and meetings laws as government agencies, since CCA is wholly dependent on government contracts. That would seem to apply to U.P. as well, which could be very useful in any sort of audit or investigation.
All fair points,
All fair points, Rikki.
-Katie
University Pathologists
Does anyone know the significance that government contract work comprises of University Pathologists' revenue? CCA is a public company with a specific customer type, so that one is obvious.
The answer doesn't affect the legal or common decency issues raised by the original post and letter, but I'm just curious if tax dollars represent 10, 50 or 80 percent of their top line.
EconoGal - that's a very
EconoGal - that's a very interesting question, and one I've tried to figure out with no success. If anyone with better research skills than mine knows how to figure that out, please let me know.
Katie
Addendum: 3 data points
Addendum: 3 data points relevant to Econogal's question:
-University Pathologists appears to operate a successful commercial pathology lab (not just forensic pathology) where samples from all over are sent for various types of analysis
- The head of University Pathologists (the guy who negotiated and signed the contract that his company has with Knox County), as well as the ME and the Asst ME (both full time employees of University Pathologists) are all professors employed by the University of Tennessee Medical Center. UTMCK's medical pathology program actively utilizes the staff, space and equipment within what is alternately called the "Regional Forensic Center" and the "Office of the Knox County Medical Examiner" for training residents in the pathology program. Residents observe and assist with autopsies performed there. (the space - whatever you want to call it - exists in the basement of UT Medical Center on Alcoa Highway)
-In email correspondence I have had with anyone who works within the Knox County department known as "Office of the Medical Examiner" -which is a wholly outsourced department via a contract with Univerity Pathologists - those people have corresponded with me via a utmck email address. That's the email address domain for the University of Tennessee Medical Center. So their communication with citizens is not done thru Knox County's email system or a special one for the ME or one owned by University Pathologists, but thru the server system operated by UTMCK.
My point is just that this is
My point is just that this is a tangled mess. When the person who is the named Medical Examiner for Knox County is communicating with a citizen regarding matters entirely related to her work as the official Knox County Medical Examine (I say "official," because state law clearly defines this role for local governments), it's confusing that she's using an email address entirely unrelated to that official position. It's not a Knox County address. It's not a special ME address (such as the sheriff and the schools have via their standalone domains), and it's not even an address connecting her to the Knox County contractor who employs her. It's an address owned and maintained by UTMCK. I'm not saying that the issue of an email domain is hugely consequential. I'm just tossing that out as a single data point among many, many, many others that illustrate what a rogue mess this contract and contractual relationship are for Knox County taxpayers. Hope that clarifies. -Katie
Oh Please!
That's an insult to West African countries.
This 2011 investigative
This 2011 investigative reporting out of Northern California looked at a situation in which a single private, for profit contractor was handling almost all forensic pathology work for a large number of counties in one region:
(link...)
The reporters discovered caseloads far exceeding professional standards, one-off autopsies being accepted as single pay incidents - incentivizing inappropriately high caseloads - and a variety of other problems.
I am not a reporter, but instead just a citizen who has had the unfortunate opportunity to recently require the services of this (nearly) million dollar Knox County contractor. A real reporter could probably get a much clearer picture of all of this, but via the scant publicly available info I could find, it appears that in our area, University Pathologists currently serves as the primary provider of forensic pathology services (autopsies, case consultation, trial testimony, medicolegal death investigation, etc) for not only Knox County, but for multiple other East Tennessee counties. University Pathologists appears to perform almost all its forensic pathology work in the same lab, using much of the same staff and equipment that they also use in execution of their $970,000 annual contract to serve as the Office of the Knox County Medical Examiner.
There are significant questions with regard to this contract and how its being executed and overseen. If I were a local journalist, I would have a strong interest in taking a much closer look.
But while some of the potential problems with this Knox County contractor really call out or a professional journalist's analysis, others are so obvious that they are just right out there for anyone who bothers to look.
For example, in the letter to Knox County Commission to which I linked in my original post above
(Find it here: (link...))
I noted several specific and highly disturbing examples (with the actual screenshots of media websites displaying the photos included) of University Pathologists allowing local media to photograph human remains in the ME's lab, and to publish those photos. This shocking behavior is specifically prohibited in the contract between Knox County and University Pathologists, and also represents a clear violation of a state law prohibiting local medical examiners from allowing media to photograph human remains entrusted to their care.
It's pretty awful stuff, and forensic pathology is not an area of county services that anyone likes to think about. We all kind of just want to assume that when it comes to this uniquely sensitive tax-funded service, the people we've contracted to do it are handling those duties as they should. But some bereaved local families have found out the hard way that without oversight, that's not what's going on.