Fri
Jan 27 2012
01:34 pm
By: R. Neal
WBIR's Inside Tennessee airs Sunday at 9:30 AM. This week's program features Dr. Mark Harmon, Katie Allison Granju, and yours truly (unless they edit me out) talking about the internet and politics and stuff with host Hillary Lake and panelists Jack McElroy, Susan Richardson Williams, and Dennis Francis.
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Discussing:
- Are Chat bots a waste of time? (1 reply)
- Smith & Wesson noise problem (1 reply)
- Musicians dropping out of President's Freedom Concert Series (1 reply)
- It's time for new blood in Congress, Barnett in - Burchett out (1 reply)
- Burning Down The House... (2 replies)
- Behind Lege Lies (1 reply)
- Peace (1 reply)
- Speak your truth, fight and believe. (1 reply)
- Large banks have too much AI data center debt? (1 reply)
- GOP misleading on federal health care funding (1 reply)
- Feds indict civil rights group (3 replies)
- Georgia issues burn ban, first time in state history (2 replies)
TN Progressive
- Smith & Wesson not a good fit for Blount County (BlountViews)
- Pellissippi Parkway extension delayed again (BlountViews)
- Blount County early voting record turnout (BlountViews)
- Louisville, TN, town center coming soon? (BlountViews)
- WATCH THIS SPACE. (Left Wing Cracker)
- America As It Is Right Now (RoaneViews)
- A friend sent this: From Captain McElwee's Tall Tales of Roane County (RoaneViews)
- The Meidas Touch (RoaneViews)
- Massive Security Breach Analysis (RoaneViews)
- (Whitescreek Journal)
- My choices in the August election (Left Wing Cracker)
- July 4, 2024 - aka The Twilight Zone (Joe Powell)
TN Politics
- Judge allows UFC cage matches to go ahead on White House lawn (TN Lookout)
- Stockard on the Stump: Tennessee keeping intensive probation program alive – barely (TN Lookout)
- Tennessee waste task force eyes changes to law allowing local rejection of landfills (TN Lookout)
- Nearly half of adults struggled to afford healthcare last year, survey finds (TN Lookout)
- Trump says ‘great settlement’ of Iran war in the works, signing ceremony soon (TN Lookout)
- ‘The Dumocrats are at it again’: Trump attack on California election offers midterm preview (TN Lookout)
Knox TN Today
- PAT the play returns to the stage in June (Knox TN Today)
- Easy Bacon & Swiss Quiche: Breakfast meal prep (Knox TN Today)
- Grayson boosts Ijams + In memoriam: Nic Arning, Bob Monday (Knox TN Today)
- Meet Slinky: The adventure buddy you’ve been wanting (Knox TN Today)
- Dining Duo goes to Vandergriff’s (Knox TN Today)
- Zoo Knoxville introduces Summer Concert Series (Knox TN Today)
- Food City named 2026 Retailer of the Year (Knox TN Today)
- 6/12 HEADLINES: News and events from Knox, World, USA, Tennessee & Historic Notes (Knox TN Today)
- Close to Home, Far from Ordinary: Townsend, TN, Ranks #9 destination on one tank of gas (Knox TN Today)
- Hiking with Harrington: Big Creek Trail (Knox TN Today)
- Falling Water Branch Falls: A 2020 Visit, Helene’s scars, and three new waterfalls (Knox TN Today)
- Lily in Red (Knox TN Today)
Local TV News
- Woman convicted in 1995 Knoxville murder challenging constitutionality of lethal injection (WATE)
- Unoccupied SUV crashes into Hamblen County home, displacing family (WATE)
- Weather Aware: Friday severe storm potential (WATE)
- From road work to Bonnaroo: What East Tennesseans need to know before hitting the road this weekend (WATE)
- Mayor: Homes for veterans arriving at Hero's Hill in Knox County (WATE)
- One dead after shooting near Kingston (WATE)
News Sentinel
State News
- Novonix marks milestone in full-scale graphite shipment to Panasonic - Chattanooga Times Free Press (Times Free Press)
- NASCAR notebook: Carson ‘Hurricane’ Hocevar causing more damage - Chattanooga Times Free Press (Times Free Press)
- Rain delay extends ridge cut concrete work on I-24 through Chattanooga - Chattanooga Times Free Press (Times Free Press)
- Video: ‘We are still here’: Cherokee cyclists journey through Southeast Tennessee to retrace Trail of Tears - Chattanooga Times Free Press (Times Free Press)
Wire Reports
- Judge denies last-ditch Kennedy Center bid to delay removing Trump’s name - The Washington Post (US News)
- US judge indefinitely blocks Trump's 'anti-weaponization' fund - Reuters (US News)
- SpaceX IPO Live Updates: SPCX Rises 20%; Musk Becomes World's First Trillionaire - WSJ (Business)
- Algae resurfaces in reflecting pool after multimillion-dollar fixes - Politico (US News)
- Iranian foreign minister says deal with U.S. "never been closer" - Axios (US News)
- Ohio progressive group searched by FBI accuses Trump’s DOJ of intimidation - NBC News (US News)
- Sam Bankman-Fried loses bid to overturn crypto fraud conviction - Reuters (Business)
- 1,000,000,000,000 (that’s 1 trillion), in graphics - NBC News (Business)
- At least 1 killed, 9 hospitalized in shooting in Midland, Texas; suspect dead, officials say - CBS News (US News)
- Texas GOP Chair Abraham George loses reelection at convention - The Texas Tribune (US News)
- A key U.S. spy tool is set to lapse on Friday — now what? - NPR (US News)
- He's Been Quietly Amassing SpaceX Stock for 15 Years - Newser (Business)
- S&P 500 rises as traders await Iran deal details, SpaceX's first trade: Live updates - CNBC (Business)
- Ken Leech to Plead Guilty in US ‘Cherry Picking’ Fraud Case - Bloomberg (Business)
- When oil prices could get even worse - Axios (Business)
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Thanks, Randy. I try to
Thanks, Randy. I try to catch both Sunday morning shows, but usually miss them.
WATE has theirs up on the 'net later on Sunday, so I remember to watch it. WBIR doesn't get theirs posted till later in the week, and I often forget to go back and check it out,
TV
And people say there is nothing good on TV. That's crazy talk...
Oh, there was definitely some
Oh, there was definitely some crazy talk when we taped this episode the other night... ;-)
You weren't edit out. P.S.
You weren't edit out.
P.S. "Brian" is my real name. Sadly, that does not improve the quality of my comments.
Good job...
I wish that had been an hour show.
summarizing McElroy: Knoxnews.com
summarizing McElroy: Knoxnews.com commenters generating the equivalent of 120 stories a day. Why should we moderate all that awesomeness? ugh.
As for anonymity, what would
As for anonymity, what would have happened to Castleman and Gibson if they didnt already have records? What if some innocent bystander saw Baumgartner popping hands full of pills and wanted to remain anonymous? In a time where attacking the source seems more important than the legitimacy of the claim, should we believe the source would have been left alone?
In this region, anonymity has it's purpose.
What both Randy and I both
What both Randy and I both said on Inside TN was that anonymity can work in an online community as long as there is robust, consistent and well defined moderation. The problems arise when you allow anonymous commenting where people are allowed to say almost anything, and where moderation is inconsistent and retroactive, and no one has any clear idea who is moderating or what the standards are.
Did Jack listen?
Did Jack listen?
Pam, I certainly can't speak
Pam, I certainly can't speak for Jack, but I can tell you how I understood his remarks. If I understood him accurately,, he believes that in general, the KNS is doing a good job managing its comments and commenters, and he believes that the online community represented in the KNS comments appearing below most of their online stories is healthy, diverse and a valuable contribution to our overall community discourse. He believes that anonymity for commenters on his site offers a number of valuable benefits.
But again, that was just my understanding of his input on this issue based on the brief round table discussion during the Inside TN taping this week.
-Katie
Based only conversations with
Based only conversations with him that's probably a fair assessment. Needless to say, I disagree.
I don't know how you can
I don't know how you can effectively offer criticism to journalists. I don't know what the psychology is, but in my experience, journalists are even more prone to retrench and defend than are politicians, when challenged.
I think on the show that Katie pointed out that the KNS comments just aren't well moderated in an era of tight staffing, and that they clearly lack the resources to keep up with it. Jack's response was to say that comment moderation received significant staffing resources. To me that suggests continued obliviousness to a terrible mis-allocation of staff time. He also, with ironic pride, cited some significant volume of text produced in the KNS comments, which I assume dwarfs the text produced by actual staff or freelance journalists.
When will Jack et al. realize that they could find far more value for their business in old-school journalism than in trying desperately to keep up with "social media?" If KNS shut down their comments and used the staff resources to put more journalists out there writing copy that gets reviewed by editors and published, they would greatly enhance their position as a reliable source of information.
There's a low bar to being a source for online opinion and reader commentary, particularly when the tone that exists in KNS comments is considered acceptable. There's a much higher bar to being a source for straight-up journalism that follows standards for finding, verifying, and publishing reliable information that is of public value and interest. The only thing that old-school journalism really has to cede to new media is the idea of always being first with a story. The value that remains is being consistently accurate. If the KNS put all their effort into that, they'd be able to get eyes on ads and even to find more paying subscribers.
So long as they continue defending their failed experiment in moderating the raw sewage that is their comments function, they'll continue to see their revenues and profits dwindle, and that's sad.
...that, or you get to pay
...that, or you get to pay Greg Isaacs $10 to $20 thousand because you were crazy enough to tell a public official about the misdeeds of another public official.
We just watched this. VERY
We just watched this. VERY good panel discussion - wish it could have gone longer.
evidence
Bubba cleans up pretty good.
Bubba cleans up pretty good.