Fri
Jan 27 2012
12:34:pm

WBIR's Inside Tennessee airs Sunday at 9:30 AM. This week's program features Dr. Mark Harmon, Katie Allison Granju, and yours truly (unless they edit me out) talking about the internet and politics and stuff with host Hillary Lake and panelists Jack McElroy, Susan Richardson Williams, and Dennis Francis.

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Rachel's picture

Thanks, Randy. I try to

Thanks, Randy. I try to catch both Sunday morning shows, but usually miss them.

WATE has theirs up on the 'net later on Sunday, so I remember to watch it. WBIR doesn't get theirs posted till later in the week, and I often forget to go back and check it out,

Mike Cohen's picture

TV

And people say there is nothing good on TV. That's crazy talk...

kag's picture

Oh, there was definitely some

Oh, there was definitely some crazy talk when we taped this episode the other night... ;-)

Brian A.'s picture

You weren't edit out. P.S.

You weren't edit out.

P.S. "Brian" is my real name. Sadly, that does not improve the quality of my comments.

WhitesCreek's picture

Good job...

I wish that had been an hour show.

rocketsquirrel's picture

summarizing McElroy: Knoxnews.com

summarizing McElroy: Knoxnews.com commenters generating the equivalent of 120 stories a day. Why should we moderate all that awesomeness? ugh.

Average Guy's picture

As for anonymity, what would

As for anonymity, what would have happened to Castleman and Gibson if they didnt already have records? What if some innocent bystander saw Baumgartner popping hands full of pills and wanted to remain anonymous? In a time where attacking the source seems more important than the legitimacy of the claim, should we believe the source would have been left alone?

In this region, anonymity has it's purpose.

kag's picture

What both Randy and I both

What both Randy and I both said on Inside TN was that anonymity can work in an online community as long as there is robust, consistent and well defined moderation. The problems arise when you allow anonymous commenting where people are allowed to say almost anything, and where moderation is inconsistent and retroactive, and no one has any clear idea who is moderating or what the standards are.

Pam Strickland's picture

Did Jack listen?

Did Jack listen?

kag's picture

Pam, I certainly can't speak

Pam, I certainly can't speak for Jack, but I can tell you how I understood his remarks. If I understood him accurately,, he believes that in general, the KNS is doing a good job managing its comments and commenters, and he believes that the online community represented in the KNS comments appearing below most of their online stories is healthy, diverse and a valuable contribution to our overall community discourse. He believes that anonymity for commenters on his site offers a number of valuable benefits.

But again, that was just my understanding of his input on this issue based on the brief round table discussion during the Inside TN taping this week.

-Katie

Pam Strickland's picture

Based only conversations with

Based only conversations with him that's probably a fair assessment. Needless to say, I disagree.

Somebody's picture

I don't know how you can

I don't know how you can effectively offer criticism to journalists. I don't know what the psychology is, but in my experience, journalists are even more prone to retrench and defend than are politicians, when challenged.

I think on the show that Katie pointed out that the KNS comments just aren't well moderated in an era of tight staffing, and that they clearly lack the resources to keep up with it. Jack's response was to say that comment moderation received significant staffing resources. To me that suggests continued obliviousness to a terrible mis-allocation of staff time. He also, with ironic pride, cited some significant volume of text produced in the KNS comments, which I assume dwarfs the text produced by actual staff or freelance journalists.

When will Jack et al. realize that they could find far more value for their business in old-school journalism than in trying desperately to keep up with "social media?" If KNS shut down their comments and used the staff resources to put more journalists out there writing copy that gets reviewed by editors and published, they would greatly enhance their position as a reliable source of information.

There's a low bar to being a source for online opinion and reader commentary, particularly when the tone that exists in KNS comments is considered acceptable. There's a much higher bar to being a source for straight-up journalism that follows standards for finding, verifying, and publishing reliable information that is of public value and interest. The only thing that old-school journalism really has to cede to new media is the idea of always being first with a story. The value that remains is being consistently accurate. If the KNS put all their effort into that, they'd be able to get eyes on ads and even to find more paying subscribers.

So long as they continue defending their failed experiment in moderating the raw sewage that is their comments function, they'll continue to see their revenues and profits dwindle, and that's sad.

Average Guy's picture

...that, or you get to pay

...that, or you get to pay Greg Isaacs $10 to $20 thousand because you were crazy enough to tell a public official about the misdeeds of another public official.

Rachel's picture

We just watched this. VERY

We just watched this. VERY good panel discussion - wish it could have gone longer.

michael kaplan's picture

evidence

Pam Strickland's picture

Bubba cleans up pretty good.

Bubba cleans up pretty good.

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