Sun
Jul 17 2011
12:46 pm
By: Lisa Starbuck

Knoxville is one of the few communities that allows interstate-sized signs up to 50 feet tall along community roadways. Do we really need those big ugly signs?

Cumberland Avenue

Neighborhoods on the west end of town are asking for support at City Council to prevent a 50 foot plastic sign from going up on a section of Kingston Pike which currently has moderate signage that is mostly very well done. Visit their website at (link...) for more information.

Please contact your city council representative before July 26th to let them know your views on this subject. I think we should revisit the signage ordinances in the city and the county and do something before all our roadways look like this.

Here's a little primer:

MAXIMUM SIGN HEIGHT IN KNOXVILLE: 50 FEET

MAXIMUM SIGN HEIGHT ALLOWED ELSEWHERE IN TENNESSEE

Alcoa - 30 feet
Pigeon Forge - 25 feet
Sevierville - 25 feet
Nashville/Davidson Co. - 20 feet
Chattanooga/Hamilton Co. - 20 feet
Murfreesboro/Rutherford Co. - 20 feet
Franklin/Williamson Co. - 15 feet for shopping center or industrial park/12 feet for gas station or convenience store/10 feet for everything else

michael kaplan's picture

the problem is, you have a

the problem is, you have a highway going through knoxville that is itself raised 25 feet off the ground in many places, and often 8 - 10 drive lanes in width. do elevated highways have dispensations, or are there topography/visibility issues with the rise and fall of kingston pike? in other words, why do they want 50 feet?

bizgrrl's picture

I too would be interested in

I too would be interested in the developers/company's explanation for the need of a 50 foot sign.

The location will not draw from the interstate, 1/2 mile away. It is on a fairly straight and not too hilly section of Kingston Pike, right between Cedar Bluff and Seven Oaks on the South side across from the Market Place shopping center that includes a Kroger. How tall is the sign, or whatever you call it (the large brick, four-sided tower) leading into the Market Place shopping center?

Lisa Starbuck's picture

Why 50' Sign

I've asked one of the neighborhood leaders why the developers are requesting a 50' sign and the answer seems to be "because they can."

Here's a graphic that shows the relative sign heights of nearby signs for comparison:

sherrill_hill_comparison.jpg

The development is surrounded by residential subdivisions and there is no way the sign could be seen from the interstate. There are 136 private homes within 300 feet of the development and the neighbors strongly object to this gigantic lighted sign.

Also, from the website:

The stretch of Kingston Pike between Cedar Springs Church and Franklin Square has consistently been a good example of community commercial development during the past 15 years. Developers have kept signs to 35 feet or less, with the median height being about 20 feet. A 50-foot lighted plastic and metal pole sign in this area would set a very negative precedent for future development and would change the community character.

bizgrrl's picture

It's being reported that City

It's being reported that City Council voted to require this specific sign high to be lowered to 30 feet.

Good job, citizens!

Afterward, Seymour said he was "disappointed" in the council's action "in not being sensitive to business interests and that it "endangers the rest of the project."

Seymour is very good at what he does and I understand his job. I have to wonder some times if even he believes what he is saying.

KevinMurphy's picture

Changing the Rules

Did Councilwoman Brenda Palmer really say "When this group came here, 50-feet was the maximum height. That was the rule. We may not like the rule. The bottom line — a set of rules was in play"

Wow. How's that for abdicating on your legislative responsibility? A situation comes up where a bad rule is identified and impacts citizens, but we don't want to fix the rule because people are trying to play by the rule?

The process of approving zoning and development is the way it is so that problems / issues can be identified and resolved. MPC looks at it, then the legislative body. The rules get interpreted differently all the time during those hearings because we all WANT some flexibility in the process.

Things worked like they were supposed to.

I do wonder what would happen in somebody else on City Council, during a hot discussion, makes a motion to "Suspend the Rules". Yes - parliamentary procedure allows you to get RID of the rules entirely if you feel like it :-)

Treehouse's picture

I agree

I heard Brenda Palmer say that and I am sorry I voted for her.

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