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Mar 21 2010
09:58 pm

Republicans can delay and obstruct all they want. Change is coming, in about eight minutes from now after a generation of waiting...

Showtime.

UPDATE: Boehner: "Hell no."

UPDATE: Pelosi: "All politics is personal."

UPDATE: Here it comes...

UPDATE: 216 at 10:45PM on March 21 2010. The House of Representatives has approved the Senate bill, and health care reform history is made. Now on to the reconciliation bill...

UPDATE: 219 to 212 for passage of the Senate bill.

UPDATE: House Republicans try to throw an abortion monkey wrench into the works. Rep. Stupak of all people shuts them down. Update: motion fails, back to the main event...

UPDATE: Vote on reconciliation bill underway...

UPDATE: 216 at 11:30PM on March 21 2010. And that's that.

UPDATE: 11:37: Pelosi: "The bill is passed."

UPDATE: Obama: "Tonight ... we proved we are still a people capable of doing big things. ... This is what change looks like."

RELATED: Flashback...

Andy Axel's picture

Vote 216 "Yea" as of 9:46 CT.

Vote 216 "Yea" as of 9:46 CT. Passes.

R. Neal's picture

It's not a great bill, but I

It's not a great bill, but I take back every bad thing I ever said about President Obama and Congressional Democrats.

Tamara Shepherd's picture

*

My (Republican) husband and I have talked more about healthcare reform on the sofa in front of the TV tonight than we've managed to do over the last year--and I've been able to correct a few misconceptions on his part.

I don't know how much real "reconciliation" we'll see in the House chamber tonight, but my confidence in the power of living room sofa time is growing.

Maybe that's how it will happen--nationally, I mean.

Andy Axel's picture

And now... "But... but...

And now... "But... but... but... DEAD BABIES!!!!11!!"

And Stupak is now telling the GOP to sit down & shut up. w00t!

reform4's picture

Death Panel Planning Meeting Tomorrow

9:00 am, City County Building, General Assembly Room.

Rachel's picture

Any word on which R

Any word on which R Congressman called Stupak a "baby killer" on the floor?

Real classy behavior, that.

Andy Axel's picture

Unconfirmed report is that it

Unconfirmed report is that it was retiring Republican rep George Radanovich (R-CA Fresno).

Rachel's picture

Hmm, maybe I won't be voting

Hmm, maybe I won't be voting for Haslam after all. This statement could well have been written by Wamp or Ramsey.

JaHu's picture

So do I understand this

So do I understand this correctly? The poor and lower income who couldn't afford health care to begin with will now be fined if they don't purchase health care coverage. They mentioned subsidies, but will these subsidies be marred in red tape making it literally impossible to get?

Virgil Proudfoot's picture

Redefining victory

This is how Democrats have a "victory" nowadays: by redefining the term to include defeat. The insurance companies now own the healthcare system, and their insane rate increases will now be covered by the taxpayers--if we're lucky.

I find this very difficult to celebrate, unless I redefine "celebration" as utter despair.

sugarfatpie's picture

The insurance companies now

The insurance companies now own the healthcare system

Didn't they own it already?

and their insane rate increases will now be covered by the taxpayers--if we're lucky.

Its possible that, having cracked the completely US-centric (and completely ignorant of medicare) myth that govt shouldn't be involved in health care, we are now closer to passing stronger laws against rate hikes. We could even limit the amount of profit insurance companies make, much like is done in Germany and the Netherlands.

Space does not permit a detailed description of the Dutch and Swiss systems. But these countries, too, have married the financing and risk-pooling systems, which try to own up to the principle of social solidarity, with a delegation of the purchasing function to competing, private insurance carriers. In the Netherlands, the latter may be for profit or not for profit. In Switzerland, they are basically nonprofit, except for supplementary coverage for items not in the basic package.

All three countries offer their citizens reliable, portable health insurance based on the principle of social solidarity, but without a government-run health insurance plan like Medicare. The $64,000 question is whether America’s private health insurers would be willing to countenance the tight regulation required for that approach.

We're a long way from this, but we are closer today thanks to this, admittedly half-assed, bill.

bill young's picture

Jim Cooper

I was pleased to see that Jim voted yes.

(link...)

bizgrrl's picture

He supported the first part,

He supported the first part, just not the reconciliation. Whatever.

bill young's picture

Metulj

I was not specfic in my comment.My mistake.

Congressman Jim Cooper voted for the health care bill that the President will sign into law.

I've commented that IMO Jim's vote would be a key indicator of whether we would get a bill.It was.

Sorry I was not specfic in my comment on Jim's crucial aye vote on the bill that will soon become law.

I'm pleased my good friend,Jim Cooper,was an aye vote in this historic legislation.

Andy Axel's picture

As much as Cooper deserves

As much as Cooper deserves the stick, I cannot countenance what John Tanner did. What excuse does a retiring Democratic House member have in tacking to the right and voting with the Issa/Dreier axis?

Lee Hutchison's picture

thank you thank you Jim Cooper....

....for voting yes. I'm so grateful for your leadership and for looking out for the people of our nation and of your fellow Tennesseans.
Thank you Jim Cooper, thank you!!!

WhitesCreek's picture

Krugman:

...the emotional core of opposition to reform was blatant fear-mongering, unconstrained either by the facts or by any sense of decency.

On the eve of the big vote, Republican members of Congress warned that “freedom dies a little bit today” and accused Democrats of “totalitarian tactics,” which I believe means the process known as “voting.”

Krugman's a comedian! Who knew?

Tamara Shepherd's picture

Haslam/TN delegation

Haslam: "...and if elected governor, I will pursue every means necessary to protect our state’s interests."

Wonder if that extends to adopting a state tax structure that will finally enable Tennessee to deliver basic human services?

And wonder why the Tennessee delegation consistently tries to sweep under the rug this root problem of an inadequate revenue stream in their continuing denouncements of "runaway costs" in Tennecare?

Eight doctor visits annually? Pick-and-choose which of your prescribed meds you'll be able to take? Yeah, right.

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