http://tfninsider.org/2010/03/11/blogging-the-social-studies-debate-iv/
The board is taking up remaining amendments on the high school world history course....Board member Cynthia Dunbar wants to change a standard having students study the impact of Enlightenment ideas on political revolutions from 1750 to the present. She wants to drop the reference to Enlightenment ideas (replacing with “the writings of”) and to Thomas Jefferson. She adds Thomas Aquinas and others. Jefferson’s ideas, she argues, were based on other political philosophers listed in the standards. We don’t buy her argument at all. Board member Bob Craig of Lubbock points out that the curriculum writers clearly wanted to students to study Enlightenment ideas and Jefferson. Could Dunbar’s problem be that Jefferson was a Deist? The board approves the amendment, taking Thomas Jefferson OUT of the world history standards.
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As goes Texas, so goes the rest
That should read "will" instead of "could." Since Texas is such a large purchaser of texbooks, its state Department of Education has the effect of setting textbook standards nationwide. Get ready to see Jefferson excised from high school textbooks across the country.
Bastards.
can, could,...
will--i think we r beyond that now.
So much for the Declaration
So much for the Declaration of Independence.
It's time for a new model for textbook publication
University presses need to answer this challenge and create a new standard for public school textbooks, including electronic delivery to students over the internet. The trade textbook publishers should be cut out of the process entirely if they submit to this backwoods foolishness in Texas, which they show every sign of doing.
As someone who has worked on
As someone who has worked on a textbook, the economy of scale that a textbook publisher has over a university press is enormous. It's a noble idea*, but the resources necessary to create a textbook outstrip what one can deliver through a univ press. The electronic delivery of texts is already underway ... by the textbook companies.
*I only use a text in my introductory classes. I do not use a text in upper-division courses.
Scale means less on download
The scale issue is less meaningful when it comes to downloading texts vs. printing and shipping lots of dead trees. Also, scholarly and university presses could develop a niche using marketing like: here are the missing pages for your textbooks.
It isn't about printing them,
It isn't about printing them, it is about producing them. How many people work at UT Press. You can count them with your shoes on. How many people work at Wiley? Their corporate offices span two city blocks in Hoboken, NJ.
As someone who has worked on.....
So does this mean you subscribe to this revisionist history effort in Texas?
George Washington didn't cut down a cherry tree.
No.
So are conservatives dropping
So are conservatives dropping their frequent assertion that the founding fathers were Christian and that this country was founded on Christian principles?
Trying a different angle to rewrite history now?
On second and third reading,
On second and third reading, it looks like the emphasis here is upon divorcing Jefferson from his nefarious furrin contemporaries -- and here I'm assuming the likes of Diderot, Rousseau, and Arouet. "Oh, they're already covered elsewhere!" So this looks to be more of a move to mangle the context in which Jefferson lived.
American saints can't possibly have frog-munchin' influences, after all.
Jeffersonian Principal
In 1776,Jefferson was not the only Enlightenment political philosopher.But,IMO,Jefferson was the most important to world history.
Because the Declaration of Independence was the foundation of the US Constitution.And the Constitution is grounded in the abiding Jeffersonian principal:"The consent of the governed".
The study of Jeffersonian principal not only lies in Articles 1 thru 7 of the Constitution.But the evolution of the Constitution via amendment.
The Bill of Rights.
The 13th Amendment abolishing slavery.
The 15th Amendment guartanteeing blacks the right to vote.
The 17th Amendment provided for the people to elect Senators
The 19th Amendment established women's suffrage.
The 24th Amendment prohibited the poll tax.
I can not imagine how one could teach world history without the bedrock of Jeffersonian principal & how the United States has attempted to achieve that prinicipal "in order to form a more perfect union." by first the radifiction of the Constitution & the 234 year history of amendments to the Constitution.
Thomas Jefferson: "May it be
Thomas Jefferson:
Guess he would be a tea partier today, except maybe for all that ignorance and superstition v. science and reason and stuff. Anyway, sounds like world history to me.
Prayers for Mr Jefferson
I , being a Texan... Certainly hope Texas decides to Leave Mr Jeffersons signature as it is!!
He was after all, One of our ForeFathers. and I have No respect for any political person that wants to remove His name Just because of Their opinion
What Texas is...
doing, the game they r playing, it done all the time. u critics just don't like the direction texas is taking it. i agree, but now u know how the rest of us feel when u do it!
Riiight!
The direction of further ignorance, yep, we're agin that.
They are removing more than Thomas Jefferson in politics.
I’m a Democratic Party candidate for U.S. Congress in the 5th district of Tennessee. In spite of this, I have been denied in having my candidacy listed on the Tennessee Democratic Party web site.
Furthermore, message board postings from anyone (including myself) criticizing the policies of the National Democratic Party are deleted from the web site. Nothing is exempt from deletion if it is in opposition, and these include single quotes from the Bible, George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, etc.
At the very least, many of us as Democrats are being deprived an equal voice within our own Democratic Party.
I welcome anyone to contact me in discussing this matter by the below phone number or email address.
Eric Pearson
Phone: (615) 852-7553
Email: epearson@democraticreformparty.com
I thought you were the
1) I thought you were the Democratic REFORM Party candidate.
So why bother with the TNDP?
2) Knoxville isn't in the 5th district, dipshit.
Stop saying you're a
Stop saying you're a Democrat. You're not.
Just go away
GO AWAY. Play your silly game somewhere else. I am really tired of your constant idiotic dribble.
why would...
ANYONE claim to be a democrat if they were not? this is a democrat party hack site and we all know that and we all expect what comes with it.
Because Republicans don't win
Because Republicans don't win in District 5.
Hard to believe for you
... but lots of people are proud not to be frothing wingnut morons.
It's wrong, it's WRROOONGG.
Anybody who would support this is absolutely anti-american. I don't care what party it is, but in this case it happens to be the conservatives. And this is what we want in 2012? That's so much better than Obama. Revisionism of history is wrong. Our kids deserve better.
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