yep...have to agree, got my first ticket in thirty years from the one on the broadway off ramp.

when I saw red light on the envelope, thought I was being blamed for doing something else illegal.

well this will only happen once and at least it did not do any damge to my driving record, but it certainly was not a 'real' violation just based on my careful driving record....and that was a driving record from one coast to the other.

This again. Don't like red light cameras - don't run a red light (and I say that as someone who got a ticket from a red light camera - a ticket I deserved, as I was trying to beat the light at Kingston Pike and Papermill and knew I had failed).

Yellow means stop. Red means do not go. Green means proceed.

709. Initiative and referendum.
(A) Any proposed ordinance may be submitted to the council signed by qualified voters equal in number to the percentage hereinafter required. The signers, verifications, authentications, inspections, certification, amendment and submission of such petition shall be the same as provided for petitions under section 708.
(B) If the petition accompanying the proposed ordinance is signed by registered voters equal in number to thirty (30) percent of the total votes cast for all candidates for mayor in the last election and contains the request that the ordinance be submitted to a vote of the people if not passed by the council, the council shall either:
(1) Pass the ordinance without alteration within thirty (30) days after the attachment of the certificate of the election commission to the accompanying petition; or
(2) Immediately after expiration of thirty (30) days, the council shall call a special election, unless a regular election is fixed within six (6) months, and at such election, the ordinance shall be submitted without alteration to the vote of the people. The ballots used when voting upon said ordinance shall contain these words: "For the Ordinance" (stating the nature of the proposed ordinance); "Against the Ordinance" (stating the nature of the proposed ordinance).
If a majority vote in favor, the ordinance shall become a binding ordinance, and any ordinance proposed by petition, or which shall be adopted by a vote of the people cannot be repealed or amended, except by vote of the people.
(C) Any number of proposed ordinances may be voted upon at the same election in accordance with the provisions of this section; but there shall not be more than one (1) special election in any period of six (6) months for such purpose.
(D) The same procedures for petition and elections shall apply to any regular ordinance passed by the council which any group of qualified voters desires to have brought to a vote of the people.
(E) Whenever any ordinance or proposition is required by this section to be submitted to the voters at any election, the recorder shall cause the ordinance or resolution to be published in the daily newspaper of general circulation in the county, the publication to be not more than twenty (20) nor less than five (5) days before the submission of the proposition or ordinance to be voted on.
(F) Any initiative that would amend any provision of this charter that relates to pensions shall comply with the requirements of section 1355.

If the petition accompanying the proposed ordinance is signed by registered voters equal in number to thirty (30) percent of the total votes cast for all candidates for mayor in the last election and contains the request that the ordinance be submitted to a vote of the people if not passed by the council, the council shall either:

If I am correct, it would appear now would be the time to do this referendum since there was such a large voter turnout for the last city mayor election, half the turnout as the previous election. Less than 2,000 signatures would be needed.

I would support a ballot referendum requiring everyone not to drive like a maniac.

As in, obey the speed limit, drive appropriately for road conditions, put down the damn phone, slow down for yellow, stop for red, let other drivers merge, yield the right of way to pedestrians where you should, watch out for bicyclists and motorcyclists, be on the lookout for kids, be patient with older drivers/pedestrians -- really crazy stuff like that.

Who's with me?

Stop, wait two full seconds, turn right, no ticket. I do not understand why it takes two seconds, but I imagine it is a camera thing.

The cameras have had one real affect on me: I now stop when a light turns yellow instead of racing through the intersection. that's probably a good thing.

Interesting that the GPS companies (at least TomTom, since that's the unit I have-but I assume they all have) put in software so that when I approach an intersection with a camera my unit beeps and flashes a picture as a warning. Of course just driving around town I never have the GPS in the car and on anyway.

easier and cheaper to just vote them out of office.