I did this recently at local eatery. There was some lurid discussion of torture among a FOX panel of people who look like they would be towel attendants at a Sandals resort if they weren't on TV. The kids were watching with rapt attention (we don't watch TV at our house.) When it got to them laughing about how people thrash about when waterboarded, I went to the manager and asked. He immediately turned it off and said, "We've got some old guys who eat breakfast here and they want to watch it every morning. Sorry. We usually flip it to Sportscenter."

Just ask. Your money is just as good (and usually better) than people who would abuse themselves with FOX.

True happiness is knowing you are a hypocrite. -- Ivor Cutler

Seppuku is in a way the ultimate awful libertarian act -- Frank Popper

I make this request if CNN or MSNBC is on. The most biased news networks out there. Personally I am glad to see Fox on when I patronize a business. There is a reason Fox News ratings are 3- 4 times larger than any show on the other news networks at just about any given time slot.

Fow News is stupid.

There is a reason Fox News ratings are 3- 4 times larger than any show on the other news networks at just about any given time slot.

Yes, the reason is because it is stupid.

And spare me the network biased stuff. A majority of the Fox News watchers are tuning in because it offers the bias they want to see.

Brian A.
I'd rather be cycling.

3/4 of FoxNews is fluff, which explains why most people watch. Their ratings are also plummeting.

If I see it on in a public place, I ask that the channel be changed.

Anyone notice all the big screens going into McD's and they only broadcast one channel... Faux news...

LOL and I also ask them to turn off CNN and MSNBC and sometimes FOX too. I personally don't understand why freaking TV is everywhere now! It's truly to the point that people are afraid to be alone with their thoughts or to carry on personal conversations.

CNN and MSNBC are as bad to the left, now, and constantly praising a few very important Democrats and have been praising them to stratospheric levels for two years.

okay let's think about this for just a second. What is the point of a television network? Answer: To get viewers. Well, really it's to get sponsors. How do you get sponsors? You get viewers. How do you get viewers? You appeal to certain demographics and groups of people. Ideology/identity politics is what has been used.

Since Fox News cornered the market on the far right, especially just before and during the Bush years, it only made sense for CNN and MSNBC to increasingly move from a news network to a left-wing infotainment network. It's to make money! You are the pawn off of which the money is made. You are the demographic, the target audience, THE CONSUMER that is being targeted! If you watched any of CNN's coverage from oh about June of 2007 to today and you think they are "fair and balanced" then you are simply living in your little bubble pointing the finger at everyone else and screaming neo-con while you too are engaging in exactly the same activity that you accuse your percieved enemies of doing.

I'll tell you what, why don't we turn off EVERYTHING. TURN OFF THE TV! Besides that is what our president would say, right? Turn off the TV. We can all agree there needs to be less TV watching in this country.

"There is a reason Fox News ratings are 3- 4 times larger than any show on the other news networks at just about any given time slot."

Snake-oil salesmen draw crowds, too.
jcg

I asked the mgr at McD's on Western Avenue to turn the tv off Fox, but he said he was not "allowed" to change the channel.

MSNBC has three hours of liberal content per day. THREE hours. It also has Morning Joe with that raging liberal Joe Scarborough.

CNN has turned into a sorry excuse for a news organization, but left wing they're not. They're not even liberal.

And metulj is right - there is no left wing in the U.S. any more, as my spouse is fond of reminding people. And anybody who equates Obama supporters with the far left starts from a big misunderstanding of where the middle is.

them watch rather than Fox? Would they be any wiser? Would exposure to biased liberal news make for a smarter electorate? Look at the recent Daily Kos article on BO's approval of mountain top approval projects in WVA. Feel like a sucker? Best to turn it off altogether.

The Fox folks and Fox lovers think PBS and the NY Times and CNN are evil, it goes both ways, what if your doctor's office or McDee's was showing a PBS documentary or whatever and someone said turn off that commie junk. I'd rather just eat the greasy hamburger or whatever and leave than pick a fight. I guess that's why some businesses play muzak, its too bland to offend.

the one who makes my jaw drop with your free-flowing bitterness.

And ignorant insults to an esteemed member of this community.

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especially, when I go to a restaurant & have to sit and look at the lying liars for a long time. The restaurant workers always change it. If you are worried about backlash from others read the following anecdote to show you there's little chance for a backlash (at least hear in East TN):

On Mon of this week my husband was waiting for his Toyota repair at the Clinton Toyota dealership and Fox was on in the TV waiting area. A woman came in a few min after he arrived, saw the TV, and said "I'm not watching this." Walked over & turned on CNN. He said no one in the waiting area said a word. Now there's a woman who knows how to take control of the remote.
jcg

LOL It's amazing the vitriol posted on here by some people. You all only want a discussion about Fox news. I tried to point out that there is too much TV in our public society, period. Just a few years ago, you could go into a restaurant and eat in peace. Now, there's a TV on every wall. I don't need CNN, FOX, PBS, ABC, CBS, NBC, MSNBC, the History Channel, HBO, A&E, ABC Family, AMC, Animal Planet, BBC, BBC America, The Biography Channel, BET, Bravo, ESPN, MTV, or any other channel when I am eating in public (especially), shopping, working on my car, (most recently getting my computer fixed at a computer store), at the bookstore, or anywhere else. It is astonshing to me how much TV has become pervasive in our public society. That was what my comment about McDonald's was about which was the same question I have asked throughout this thread. Why do we need TV at McDonald's? How do I know that the TV at McDonald's on Broadway across the street from Sonic is always on CNN? I know because I use that McDonald's. You have to walk past the area where the TV is in order to walk up to the counter. It's always on CNN. Then there are always families sitting there like drones just watching it without a thought in their head. I like the TV in my apartment. I don't understand why I have to be inundated with television everywhere else. I was first exposed to this phenomenon at UT when music videos constantly played at the cafeteria. Now, they have TV specifically for college campuses pumped into the cafeteria in presidential.

Perhaps I made a mistake, this thread was about filling your head with CNN because you believe it's the real fair and balanced. My argument is why is CNN in your private home not enough?

Virgil: I don't know what a kerfluffle is, but if it means the end of FOX, then I'm all for it. I've already complained loudly about FOX being on the TV at the eye surgeons' office that I visit frequently.
Kill the beast.

Keith Olbermann made a good suggestion on his show last night

So Proudfoot and the 7 other people in the country watching Keith Olbermann's show were asked by Keith to boycott Fox News, his biggest competitor with more viewers that MSNBC and CNN combined? Hmm.

The TeeVee fare would be the least among my complaints about Mickeyd's.
Hadn't ever thought about this before, but I have lived within three blocks of the McDonald's she's referencing since 1982, and i can count on one hand the number of times I've been inside. For that, my CV system's saying 'Thankyouvurrymuch.'

If you don't like it, try to shut it up. Prefer to use government force. Jesus.