Mon
Apr 13 2009
11:10 am

Ray Abbas, candidate for the City of Knoxville 4th District council seat being vacated by term-limited Rob Frost, has filled three key campaign positions:

• Campaign manager: Paul Witt, former campaign manager for Mark Harmon and Amy Broyles.

• Volunteer coordinator: Gloria Johnson, local Obama campaign organizer and recently elected chair of the Knox Co. Democratic Party.

• Communications director: Kim Bedford, former WVLT-TV reporter and currently working with Scripps Networks on HGTV, DIY and Fine Living Network productions.

Commenting on the team, Ray Abbas said "We have brought a wealth of experience and leadership to the campaign with these additions. Their success speaks for itself, and we expect to hit the ground running on day one."

Jason Davis's picture

The Knox County Democrat

The Knox County Democrat Chair is working in a pre-primary campaign?

R. Neal's picture

It's a non-partisan

It's a non-partisan election.

knoxrebel's picture

Bad move, Ray. Bad move, Gloria.

Randy (and everyone who visited this site 2 years ago) knows that no one was a bigger supporter of Ray Abbas than I. And I realize that this is a non-partisan race, but what if another candidate who just happens to be a well-known Democrat gets in the race before the qualifying deadline passes? What's the difference between this situation and Dems being rightly upset at Randy Nichols and other Dem officeholders who backed Haslam against Madeline Rogero in '03?

As Dem Chief, I waited to get involved in Ray's race in '07 until the qualifying deadline had passed and we knew that no other Democrat was running. It is a bad message to send to other Democrats in Knoxville who may be considering the race in the 4th (there are at least 2 that I know) to have the newly-crowned party chair not only endorsing a candidate, but actually working directly in the campaign.

On another note, Ray was so closely tied to the Democratic Party in 2007 that it may have actually hurt his polling in some West Knoxville wards. While Ray will do extremely well in the 4th, he will now undoubtedly face that same challenge again out west. I recall Ellen Adcock destroying Steve Hall within the 3rd District in 2001 and then losing in a very tight race city-wide.

Anyway, bad move, Ray. Bad move, Gloria.

R. Neal's picture

there are at least 2 that I

there are at least 2 that I know

That could be problematic.

knoxrebel's picture

Timing is a surprise

Agreed. One of the two is a well-known Dem who has good reason to be offended, having worked hard for Democratic candidates for many years.

The qualifying deadline is June 18. I'm just a bit surprised about the timing. Perhaps that was the idea - show other potential Democrats that the Party apparatus was lining up behind Ray - but if so, it has been poorly played. If I'm a hard-working Dem and I want to run for office and my County Chair and Executive Committeeman decide to run my opponent's campaign, well, I have good reason to be more than a bit ticked.

rocketsquirrel's picture

Ray's got bigger problems

Ray's got bigger problems than that. A homeless person just tried to commit suicide in front of a store near the Fellini Kroger, according to the 37917crime yahoogroup.

KPD and KFD repsonded to the Kroger's shopping center for a call of a homeless male who had cut his wrist in a suicide attempt in front of the Family Dollar or Dollar General Store in the shopping center. KPD arrived on scene and requested that the ambulance step it up. Then major crimes was called to document the scene.

37917CRIME@yahoogroups.com

He's going to have to address the issue of concentrating homeless service providers in this district. Considering that he now works for the Salvation Army, Ray's got some heavy duty explaining to do. People over here are fed up. Question for Ray: How are we supposed to have a functioning business community over here with so many major homeless providers locating so many of their services in such a small area?

I'd really like a response from Candidate Abbas, considering his campaign is "ready to hit the ground running from day one."

R. Neal's picture

Hmm. Ray Abbas seems like a

Hmm. Ray Abbas seems like a sincere person who has worked to solve problems in his community v. some of the wealthy developer types involved in the "homeless industry" you talked about before. And I don't get trying to hang a tragic incident involving a homeless person on Abbas. What's his connection to this incident, or the "homeless industry" in general? Anyone who tries to help the lesser among us is is now a part of the problem? Who does that leave to work on solutions?

bill young's picture

GO GET EM RAY

Paul & Gloria are two great additions to Ray's campaign.
I'm sure Kim is also but I dont know her.

Go get em Ray!

StaceyDiamond's picture

Abbas campaign

Paul Witt is two for two and Ray is now running at least in part in the neighborhood he grew up in. I'd trust this group he's got selected currently.

knoxrebel's picture

Sorry Stacey, but Paul's 2

Sorry Stacey, but Paul's 2 for 3 now, unless he expects us to give Kathy Bryant's L in '08 to his wife. She doesn't deserve that at all.

And as for squirrel, man, that's a pretty far stretch, laying a homeless man's botched suicide on Ray Abbas.

Paul Witt's picture

I helped Kathy with both

I helped Kathy with both campaigns but was not her campaign manager. I don't consider it a win or a loss for me personally or for my wife really. We knew going in that both races would be tough (and in the case of the Nov. race, unwinnable) but tried our best anyway. Kathy did end up with more votes than Obama in Knox County.

Mark and Amy both ran smart campaigns against well liked opponents. While I don't give myself too much credit for making a difference, I did manage their campaigns and tried to learn from both. Frankly, it's not about my win/loss count, it's about making smart decisions and doing the right things to win.

Lobster's picture

knoxrebel.....I couldn't

knoxrebel.....I couldn't agree with you more on this one. The chair of the county Dem. party should NOT publicly be working for any campaign until after the qualifying deadline. It's inappropriate, and it sends the wrong message to those considering a run. I don't know who the other potential candidates might be that have been mentioned, but they have every right to be upset.

Bbeanster's picture

Even though Dems do better

Even though Dems do better inside the city limits than outside, I've never understood why they want to make this a defacto partisan race. Why alienate a significant bloc of voters going in? Doesn't make sense, and I cannot recall it ever succeeding.

Rachel's picture

Boy, do I agree with this.

Boy, do I agree with this. In fact, I think some candidates are helped by the fact that voters aren't even sure what party they belong to.

Bbeanster's picture

On the other hand, I want to

On the other hand, I want to say up front that I like Ray Abbas a whole lot. He's a fine young man (God, I sound like a granny – but then, I AM a granny)-- kind-hearted and concerned about the right things.

I know this is the second time I've been critical of him here, and I feel badly about it, but he's got some issues he's going to have to contend with.

I generally feel that we're lucky to have two candidates as good as Ray and Della Volpe.

knoxrebel's picture

The flap just closed on the "big tent"

Betty, obviously I think very highly of Ray (sorry Ray, that might have cost you a few votes), which is why I had hoped that this time around, he would not make this as partisan as we did in '07. That was a colossal screw up on my part, making it a Dem (Ray) vs. GOP (Joe Bailey) battle, and trust me, it was a learning experience (at least for some of us). And yes, a good Dem candidate can win in the city, as we've seen many, many times. But why risk it? Ray can do well in the 4th. He carried most wards in the 2nd Commission district, so Dems will vote for him, but out west, he lost big.

It is pretty amazing that Gloria J would do something like this just within a couple of weeks of being elected. If we're supposed to be a "big tent party" reaching out to newcomers and veteran Dems alike, looks like she just closed the flap on any other Democrat candidate who may have been interested.

Paul Witt's picture

Ray will need a strong group

Ray will need a strong group of volunteers working with him to win this race. It just so happens that the best person to help organize those volunteers also was just elected Chair of the KCDP.

Also, since this is a non-partisan race, no Party officer is any more obligated to help one candidate over another. She could help Della Volpe if she wanted. Ray just asked first. That's pretty smart if you ask me.

knoxrebel's picture

Spin it all night long

Spin it all night long, but publicly announcing this "team" made it a Dem vs. GOP race. It could have been a non-partisan race. It isn't anymore. And Della Volpe's a smart guy. He'll be all over this. Why couldn't Ray have just had you and Gloria running his campaign instead of having a coming out release? Where is the sense in that?

rocketsquirrel's picture

Randy,This isn't about

Randy,

This isn't about anyone's sincerity. This is about a candidate for a district that is being overwhelmed by homeless service providers--the industry, as it were. Until you find homeless defecating at the doorway to your business, or trying to commit suicide in front of it, you don't know what the business owners in this district have been having to put up with.

IF the candidate works for one of the providers, then he better be ready to explain how things would be different if he were elected to Council. Yes, he may even be subject to greater scrutiny.

I would add, too, that the guy that robbed our home last October was first a resident of KARM nearly ten years ago. That perhaps speaks to the issues of homeless recidivism, lack of programs, etc. Our area is getting inundated, and it's not fair. Most other cities lack what we have--a Mission District. That's perhaps the cruelest irony. The TYP folks are now hiding behind the Fair Housing Act as their excuse for shutting down a community-based task force to help guide and evaluate siting considerations for permanent supportive housing. So I guess they think they can get away with creating a Mission District for the homeless on Broadway--keeping all the homeless contained in one area.

I'd still like Ray to answer my question. I didn't "lay" the suicide attempt on him. I said "He's going to have to address the issue of concentrating homeless service providers in this district. Considering that he now works for the Salvation Army, Ray's got some heavy duty explaining to do. People over here are fed up."

Question for Ray: How are we supposed to have a functioning business community over here with so many major homeless providers locating so many of their services in such a small area?

R. Neal's picture

Question for Ray: How are we

Question for Ray: How are we supposed to have a functioning business community over here with so many major homeless providers locating so many of their services in such a small area?

That's a fair question. Hopefully he will answer.

Stop the PUMA Madness's picture

Why should we be afraid?

People don't vote for parties. They vote for people. There should be nothing wrong with supporting more and better Democrats in running for office.

Lobster's picture

No, a party officer is not

No, a party officer is not obligated to help one candidate over another. However, it makes sense not to do so, at least before the qualifying deadline, and not knowing who the other candidates might be. Obligation is one thing, but what is prudent and wise is another. Smart decision? Hardly.

gloria's picture

I met with Ray well before I

I met with Ray well before I decided to run for Chair of the Democratic Party. I really liked what he had to say and I agreed to be his volunteer coordinator. I keep my word and plan to continue to support him. As chair of the party, I will offer my support to any democratic candidate who asks for it. I will not support one candidate and not another. At this time, Ray is the only person who has asked.

Rachel's picture

Ummm, Gloria, do you really

Ummm, Gloria, do you really expect another candidate to ask for your help when you're signed on to Ray's campaign?

knoxrebel's picture

Not buying it

So, what do you do after a second bona fide Democrat jumps in the race? Keep your word to Ray, or do your duty to the Party? I doubt you're going to sign up as "volunteer coordinator" for two or more candidates in the same race, or are you? Whether you recognize it or not, you've now got a dilemma and Ray has inherited an issue that he did not need to deal with.

Besides, the "problem" isn't that you're helping Ray, its the fact that you are doing so as the Democratic Party Chair. And Ray made that clear in his press release. And now, it doesn't make any difference how you spin it, the damage is done. All you four had to do was run Ray's campaign under the radar, at least until the qualifying deadline passed. That wouldn't have hurt your effectiveness. Who needed the press on this issue? And if Ray wanted his name in print, why not release a statement on the homeless issue that is being written about here? It would have stood just as much a chance of getting picked up as a campaign staff release.

Stop the PUMA madness's picture

I know that trick, Don.

Will the grownups please act like grownups, please?

knoxrebel's picture

I have yet to open my magic bag, kiddo

The trick being . . . ? This has nothing to do with "party unity" at all. The point I'm making is threefold: (1) the Knox Dem Chief risks losing credibility by favoring one Dem over another in a primary (non-partisan nonsense aside, we all know Ray is a Democrat and Della Volpe ran as a GOPer). Does this matter to me? Not really insofar as Gloria is concerned, but the fact is I like Ray Abbas, and I think he's been gut-kicked by this. (2) if a potential candidate is considering the race and is a die-hard Dem, having fought in the trenches last year and in '06 for Dem candidates, what message does she get by reading on a local blog that more than two months out from the qualifying deadline her Party Chair has chosen a candidate and officially affiliated herself with him? (3) it does not help Ray Abbas in west Knoxville or other GOP-friendly areas to have the "Party" out front in his race.

I discussed this with Ray months ago. Obviously, he made a decision to go the other way. I still consider him a good friend and a top-notch candidate. But he does not need to be giving away any votes for perception-related moves that could be avoided. This will bite him bad.

And you know very well that my 6-year old granddaughter can be more grown-up than me sometimes . . . but not this time.

leaning left maybe right's picture

Damn Rebel, with Democrats

Damn Rebel, with Democrats and friends like you, Abbas needs no enemies. DO you feel better? You have trashed your so called friend. I mean gut-kicked him. You can stop biting him too. No wonder the young democrats stay away, they are afraid the rebel will eat them.

knoxrebel's picture

Yeah, you've got a lot of credibility here

Well, since you don't know me, and change screennames faster than I can keep up with it, I'll take your criticism for what its worth . . . nothing. Don't need to show my bona fides online - real Democrats in Knox County know better. And so does Ray. He doesn't need you to step in and defend him anyway. He's a good guy, a smart guy, and would do a good job if elected - but he has to get elected first. If my friend has a problem with my advice or criticism, I'll listen to him, and not some anonymous numbskull who apparently thinks they know me.

And at the end of the day, Gloria did the right thing. It is much better to get it right in the end than get it wrong and let stubbornness control your actions.

Ray Abbas's picture

It is a fair question and

It is a fair question and the honest answer is that it is very hard for the business community to operate with so many service providers in the area. I hear the concerns of the community. I am a member of the North Knoxville Business and Professionals Association and it is a topic that comes up frequently. Neighborhood associations spend a good portion of each meeting discussing the issue. I understand how homelessness can detract from property values, derail economic devolopment, increase criminal activity, etc. That is why I am so passionate about the work I do. It isn't because I don't have an appreciation for the problem. It's because I do.

My position at the Salvation Army allows me an opportunity to assist the chronically homeless find employment. I felt that my experience in employment and training programs could be an asset to those seeking a better way life. We have had successes and we've had failures and I live and die with each one. I took the position in late September of last year knowing that I would likely make one more run at City Council. I knew that I would have to spend time explaining the work I have chosen to do and I am more than willing to do so.

The problem of homelessness is a complex one and I look forward to working with all the stakeholders to arrive at a solution we can all be proud of.

Ray

StaceyDiamond's picture

candidates, homeless

So who is this other Dem running? I've just heard about Abbas and Dela Volpe so far? I don't have a pesonal problem with the homeless services in my neighborhood and think the VMC group has a good plan. My trouble with crime in the North Knox area has been not from homeless but from rogue renters, neighbors beating up other neighbors and generally unsavory people that landlords don't check out. The homeless I see usually pass through and don't say much except for a few panhandlers, that may not even be homeless.

edens's picture

My trouble with crime in the

My trouble with crime in the North Knox area has been not from homeless but from rogue renters, neighbors beating up other neighbors and generally unsavory people that landlords don't check out.

Therein lies a subtle demarcation line of gentrification: defending the perimeter versus trying to establish one.

citizenX's picture

FAIR QUESTON UNANSWERED?

It is a fair question and the honest answer is that it is very hard for the business community to operate with so many service providers in the area. I hear the concerns of the community. I am a member of the North Knoxville Business and Professionals Association and it is a topic that comes up frequently. Neighborhood associations spend a good portion of each meeting discussing the issue. I understand how homelessness can detract from property values, derail economic development, increase criminal activity, etc. That is why I am so passionate about the work I do. It isn't because I don't have an appreciation for the problem. It's because I do.
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RAY,
If it is a fair question, as you yourself admitted, please give us your answer to that question. Unless we should be satisfied with your comments about the question...."the honest answer is that it is very hard for the business community to operate with so many service providers in the area" Shouldn't you go on from there and say, "If elected I will do the following to correct the problems which faces the North Knoxville Business community as a result of such a heavy concentration of homeless shelters and service provides in such a small area. My solution to the problem is___________________." Here is where you need to fill in the blank, Ray. After all you are officially a candidate and you said you are ready to "hit the ground running." Please answer the question.

No one who knows you doubts you devotion to your chosen profession and we all respect you for that. I just wonder if we need any more folks on council who are directly associated with the "homeless provider industry" which has developed around this social phenomenon. I'm not sure I'm comfortable with anymore 501C3 councilman making decisions that affect my neighborhood.

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