Presidenting is serious business and not a celebrity/entertainment gig. Presidents shouldn't be going on late night TV talk shows as guests, especially with the likes of Jay Leno.

They shouldn't be going on TV at all except to make a formal public address to the nation or as part of legitimate news coverage of a press conference or other such event.

If the argument is that Obama is reaching millions of people who wouldn't otherwise be engaged in public affairs, that's a different problem and a sad commentary on the state of public affairs. He shouldn't drag the dignity of the office down to that level.

bill young's picture

Dont agree,R

The President was on ESPN the other day with his NCAA hoops bracket.

Yesterday on the Tonight Show.It's the way this President rolls.

I'm cool with it.

Justin's picture

If the argument is that

If the argument is that Obama is reaching millions of people who wouldn't otherwise be engaged in public affairs, that's a different problem and a sad commentary on the state of public affairs. He shouldn't drag the dignity of the office down to that level.

Agreed.

WhitesCreek's picture

I think this speaks more to

I think this speaks more to the sad state of the American media than it does any lessening of the dignity of the Oval Office. If we want the truth in America who do we turn to?

Leno is a softball for sure but the most hard hitting interviews in America are by Jon Stewart, Stephen Colbert, and David Letterman.

With Fox News recent doctored video that had Vice President Biden appearing to say "the economy is sound", It is painfully obvious that American news is the joke. If we want truth, we turn to our comedians.

Obama wants his message out. I suspect he figures he will get better coverage and more honest questions on Leno than Meet the Press.

MDB's picture

Letterman

Leno is a softball for sure but the most hard hitting interviews in America are by Jon Stewart, Stephen Colbert, and David Letterman.

Letterman is a deadly interviewer, because the danger is you'll think "oh, he's just an entertainer; this will be an easy interview." And then he'll ask you a killer question. He's kind of a like a teddy bear that's holding a butcher knife behind his back.

Witness the time Rush Limbaugh went on his NBC show, and Letterman asked him, "so, do you ever wake up in morning and say to yourself, 'I'm just a big ball of hot gas'?" Or look at how he didn't let up on John McCain after he canceled out of an interview.

Even with Stewart and Colbert, you go there thinking "political interviewer". Letterman you don't necessarily perceive as political.

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R. Neal's picture

I was sort of ambivalent

I was sort of ambivalent about it (except for the idiocracy aspects of feeling the need to do it to reach people) until I saw it. The whole setup is just wrong. You have idiot Leno sitting there at his desk presiding over Obama in the guest chair in almost a submissive posture. Not good.

And when he talks, you don't hear what he's saying. You're thinking about the last airhead actor or celebrity who was sitting there having a fake conversation with Leno that I am supposed to be interested in for some reason, and how Obama sounds and acts Just Like Them in that setting. Not good.

P.S. And I don't want to hang out with Obama or have a beer with him or think of him as one of the guys. I want to look to him for strong, capable leadership in tough times, and I want the rest of the world to look to him with respect.

Nobody's picture

Agree

Randy

I must say I agree with your statement. They need to rethink their game plan as its looking a like they will not make it thru the first bracket.

The idea to cancel the veteran health benefits, making fun of the Special Olympics should endear him to the Kennedy clan. What next? Gay Bashing?

R. Neal's picture

Nobody, Obama isn't

Nobody, Obama isn't canceling veteran health benefits or anything like that. Obama is already doing a 100x better job than his predecessor, who left him an unbelievable mess to deal with thanks to enablers like you.

WhitesCreek's picture

Boy, I do...

"P.S. And I don't want to hang out with Obama or have a beer with him

Firstly, I hope like hell that Obama has people that from time to time he can do this with for the sake of his sanity, and to pierce the bubble and help keep him real.

Second, I have a couple of questions and some thoughts I would like to hit him with after he loosened up a bit. (Hey B...You know that clean coal crap is bullshit, right? We gotta kill coal before it kills us...The hood gotta have national healthcare on the first tier. I know we can't put the big boys out of business but we could give them the top levels of care and deliver basics from the fed...Duke's going Down!)

Nobody's picture

I totally agree with R Neal.

I totally agree with R Neal. Obama needs to stop campaigning, take ownership of the economic mess and get to reading all the crap congress writes before signing it. Then maybe he'd earn the respect the holder of that office deserves.

gonzone's picture

Yeah!

If you cant go on The Daily Show, then for sure don't go on The Tonight Show. Show some class dammit! [/snark]

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Nobody's picture

That was an embarrassment

That was an embarrassment for the whole country. A bad idea and a very bad precedent.

Lisa Starbuck's picture

Disagree

I watched it and thought the President did great - he really made a connection with me as a person. He was witty, charming, quick on his feet with answers.

I thought Leno asked the questions that everyone wanted to hear the answers to, and I thought President Obama did an excellent job of answering them. I especially liked his comment that being President was like being the American Idol, except that everyone in America was like Simon Crowell.

I didn't think it undignified or beneath the office at all - you got the sense that the President was a real person, but obviously one with big responsibilities. To me, it reinforced the feeling that there is hope with him at the helm that we can pull out of this and correct course with the economy, with health care and with education. I loved it.

Nobody's picture

Lisa....have have lake front

Lisa....have have lake front property in Kingston you'd be interested in.

Lisa Starbuck's picture

Time Will Tell

I'd take your comment more seriously if you were somebody rather than nobody.

KC's picture

Every boss I've ever had

Every boss I've ever had that I liked was an accessible human being.

I agree. And all of the leaders who were respected ,and followed, by their men ( in the military) or people (otherwise), led by example, led by a willingness to be one of the "grunts." They weren't "leaders" because of some glorified title or self-proclamation. They were followed because their followers believed and trusted in their sincerity and committment to the achieving the objective and looking out for the followers.

This whole debate is a trap set up by the GOP to try to get everyone thinking President Obama has disrespected the office. Please.

The opponents of him going on the Leno show sound like believers in "divine right," or a kind of "political aristocracy."

R. Neal's picture

This whole debate is a trap

This whole debate is a trap set up by the GOP to try to get everyone thinking President Obama has disrespected the office. Please.

Please. I actually came up with my opinion all on my own, thank you very much. I don't know what the GOP is saying about it and don't care. But different people clearly have different perceptions.

Like the American Idol reference. Lisa liked it and thought it was appropriate. I cringed, because it sort of makes my point exactly. But we are all free to disagree.

I guess my age is showing and this stuff works on the younger crowd who helped elect him. Fine, as long as they work and help pay my Social Security!

Lisa Starbuck's picture

American Idol

More people vote on American Idol than do in elections. It was a cultural reference that millions, especially young people, can understand and connect with. It showed that he can take the criticism of all the people who have opinions but no talent to do any better, handle it with grace and poise, yet stick to his message and win people over.

I don't want my president to be some lofty figurehead, I want him or her to be a real person who could possibly have a clue about what it feels like to be me.

R. Neal's picture

I don't want my president to

I don't want my president to be some lofty figurehead

Me either. Not what I'm saying.

Lisa Starbuck's picture

TV

I think what you're saying it is beneath the dignity of the president to be on TV except for speech making, right? That he shouldn't be an entertainer? President Obama didn't play a saxophone or sing a song - he sat down and had a conversation like a real person. I just don't see how that lessens the dignity of the office, but I can see how some might take it that way.

bill young's picture

The Fort

Man around here the President is like old.

Alot of the young hipsters mom & pops are the same age as the President.

Stevie Wonder..Earth,Wind & Fire...The Tonight Show..wow..thats..
like classic shit dude...my parents are into all that jazz.

Never forget..just like Clinton & W..& me & you R.

The President is a boomer!!

R. Neal's picture

Heh. I guess I'm also

Heh. I guess I'm also struggling with the fact that this is the first president I've voted for (or had) who is younger than me.

MDB's picture

As far as disrespecting the office goes...

Bush the Lesser did Deal or No Deal, for God's sake. He appeared on a freakin' game show, and not even one that requires two brain cells to rub together (how apropos...); its nothing more than a guessing game. Yeah, he did it because it was an episode where all the contestants were service members, but a game show is a lot more degrading than The Tonight Show.

And didn't Nixon do Laugh-In? Though I can't remember if he was actually in office yet, or just running.

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cooperhawk's picture

If you are a D it seems you

If you are a D it seems you would be hesitant to use what Bush did as a reason to justify Obama doing something similar.

R. Neal's picture

Nixon was not in office, he

Nixon was not in office, he was running. Don't remember Deal or No Deal. Seriously? I missed that.

MDB's picture

Deal or No Deal

In the immortal words of Dave Barry,
I am not making this up.

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WhitesCreek's picture

I'm wondering if this isn't

I'm wondering if this isn't part of a larger plan.

Fox News fabricates a video and presents it as news and the Fox reporters don't get called on in press conferences.

Meet the Press does a gotcha interview with Obama and then a made for tv love fest with Dick Cheney...Obama appears on Leno, where good questions get asked and answered.

redmondkr's picture

I enjoyed watching Mr. Obama

I enjoyed watching Mr. Obama on the Tonight Show. I think JFK would probably have done something similar. It was part of his charm. I also enjoyed Mrs. Kennedy's tour of the White House.

We just retired a president who was rarely seen doing anything other than fundraisers where he greeted his best friends, the haves and the have mores.

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bizgrrl's picture

I'm with R. on this one. Of

I'm with R. on this one. Of course I am:) I do take the presidency pretty seriously, as I do the positions of head of a bank, head of an investment company, head of the Treasury Dept., and the heads of other areas that can affect millions of people and a world economy.

Somebody's picture

Look, the president is

Look, the president is trying to sell an economic recovery, and a big part of having an economic recovery is people believing there can and will be one. There's nothing wrong with the president going on a venue that will reach a wide audience to sell that idea and that confidence. Leno's audience is probably middle to middle-right, politically, and it's a good opportunity to reach them outside the filter of Fox News.

For those who say the president should stop campaigning, please quit buying into the pundit narrative of the week. The last president never stopped campaigning for himself, which was indeed a bad thing. Obama is campaigning for his agenda and for the tough actions that we'll all have to take if we are to hasten an ecomoic recovery. For that, the president should never stop campaigning. If he can get that message out and neutralize all the Limbaughs out there who want him to fail for political reasons, more power to him.

He's not degrading the presidency; he's doing his job.

KC's picture

Please. I actually came up

Please. I actually came up with my opinion all on my own, thank you very much. I don't know what the GOP is saying about it and don't care. But different people clearly have different perceptions.

I didn't mean to imply that you were part of the trap, wittingly or unwittingly.

What I meant by that line was that I feel that these kinds of issues are distractions from the current issues most Americans are dealing with.

I can understand when people say that they believe that someone in his position shouldn't be on those kinds of TV shows.

But I don't believe it's that important of an issue.

bizgrrl's picture

distractions from the

distractions from the current issues most Americans are dealing with.

Correct.

R. Neal's picture

But I don't believe it's

But I don't believe it's that important of an issue.

I agree it's not that big of a deal. It has sure prompted some interesting and lively discussion, though!

R. Neal's picture

Sean Braisted weighs

Sean Braisted weighs in:

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jbr's picture

I was ok with it. He

I was ok with it.

He displayed a detailed understanding of some things in a plain talk way that unless you significantly understand somethings complexities you cannot present it in that 'however you understand things I can pick up on it and explain it to you that way' that helps the average person understand it.

I thought the bundling of mortgages explanation probably helped some folks understand it.

You don't get that much when he is talking to a bunch of experts on television. Meet the Press, etc.

Being on TS is a risk because if you are too glib then you can hurt yourself.

Elrod's picture

Totally disagree

In fact, I thought you were kidding.

There is nothing wrong with connecting with the American public in settings like The Tonight Show. The dignity of the office isn't in any way threatened by this appearance. We aren't a monarchy or a dictatorship. Our President is the President of the people of the United States and is within his rights to use any avenue to communicate with the people. There are points too far, mind you, but Tonight Show is such an institution on television (it's almost 50 years old) that appearing there is perfectly fine.

R. Neal's picture

Elrod, I'm puzzled by this

Elrod, I'm puzzled by this reaction that I'm somehow suggesting we should bow down before the president as if he were some sort of king or dictator? I don't think that, didn't suggest that, and I don't see how y'all are reading that into what I said.

local_yokel's picture

I loved it

Good morale could improve the economy. If the President looks unconcerned and upbeat, it builds confidence. Yes, it is probably fodder for the Limbaughs of the world, but nothing Obama will ever do will elicit a positive comment from the likes of him anyway, so why try?

I hope he follows through and has the Special Olympics participants over for a game at the White House Bowling Lanes.

R. Neal's picture

Local, This is an excellent

Local, This is an excellent point. Rush Limbaugh has challenged Obama to sit down and debate his economic policies one on one. Why shouldn't Obama do that? He would reach millions of listeners who are only hearing one side of the story. He would have an opportunity to reach out and connect and stuff and at least make sure they hear some truth about what he's actually proposing. How is that any different than going on the Tonight Show?

cafkia's picture

Local, This is an excellent

Local, This is an excellent point. Rush Limbaugh has challenged Obama to sit down and debate his economic policies one on one. Why shouldn't Obama do that? He would reach millions of listeners who are only hearing one side of the story. He would have an opportunity to reach out and connect and stuff and at least make sure they hear some truth about what he's actually proposing. How is that any different than going on the Tonight Show?

To the best of my knowledge, Limbaugh has never debated anyone. He takes filtered calls and then sortof semi addresses whatever he wants to of what the caller said. It is my assessment that the only reason that he made the offer is that he knows it is not going to happen. If Barack were to agree, then Limbaugh would insist on unreasonable rules. He will do whatever he has to to make sure that Barack doesn't make mince meat of him as would surely be the case.

Government By, For, and Of the people. Unless I've been lied to, Barack is one of us. If it is undignified for him to do it, it may well mean that none of the rest of us should feel comfortable doing it either. There are plenty of game shows and skit shows and such that cause me to cringe and be embarrassed for the participants who, really should have reconsidered their choice. I would be opposed to the POTUS being on such a show but, if it is good enough for the rest of us, it is good enough for the POTUS

Overall, I was ok with Barack's performance on the Tonight Show. Personally, it would bother me a lot more if he had say, a gay male hooker set up as a White House correspondent for a faux news service so as to provide a reliable source of softball questions. Leno was far more dignified.

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Hildegard's picture

Overall, I was ok with

Overall, I was ok with Barack's performance on the Tonight Show. Personally, it would bother me a lot more if he had say, a gay male hooker set up as a White House correspondent for a faux news service so as to provide a reliable source of softball questions. Leno was far more dignified.

Haha. So if Karl Rove had really eaten a 13 y/o Thai transvestite prostitute alive (source: one of metulj's sick fever-dream blab posts), thus lowering the bar even more, then Obama really could guest host with dignity America's Funniest Fart Jokes cuz, y'know, it would have more dignity than underage prostitute cannibalism.

cafkia's picture

You DO

You DO understand!!!!

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Somebody's picture

Debating a demagogue would

Debating a demagogue would indeed diminish the president. A debate is ideally a competition of equals, or at least of contenders. Debating almost always elevates the lesser contender, and unequal expectations virtually guarantees the lesser contender a win, when you account for the curve. This is why incumbents are slow to accept debates, and are loathe to include outside or third party candidates, because it only serves to give the challengers an audience they would otherwise be unable to generate.

If Limbaugh wanted to interview him that would be fine, if unproductive.

--Oh, and Limbaugh actually crumbles like a shortbread cookie when someone actually challenges him. As delightful as it could be to watch the President eviscerate Limbaugh, it ultimately wouldn't be worth it.

local_yokel's picture

Limbaugh and Leno are not the same animal

RNeal, I think Obama would beat Limbaugh hands down, IF it were a fair fight. Of course, Limbaugh isn't challenging him to a fair fight, he's challenging him to a debate on HIS terms -- knowing he won't be taken up on it, and certainly calculating that he'll win points by NOT being taken up on it. (As though he were Somebody and had status to challenge Anyone.) It's actually a win-win for Rush, whether he gets the debate or not or wins it or not. My ONLY problems with such a debate are that it would a.) give Rush craploads of free attention and promotion and there are already enough stupid people out there who actually believe he's sincere instead of entertaining-through-inflamation, and b.) it might give Rush additional credibility to his existing audience of believers if the President actually thought he were a cockroach worth squashing.

teamcinzano's picture

There has been such a

There has been such a devolution of MSM "news" into infotainment, it becomes harder and harder to identify the differences between the networks' offerings. I mean, if you've watched morning "news" programs in the last 10-15 years, you'd have to agree that appearing on the Today show would have less dignity than appearing on the Tonight Show. I think Obama carried himself off well- and in fact we watched Leno for the first time in a long time last night to see how it would go. His answers seemed less trite to me than typical campaign and news conference answers, but that was probably as much the intimacy of the venue as anything else.

Finally, I'd say that Obama's appearance is in keeping with his, and his staff's, willingness to use the full array of media available to project their message to as many audiences as possible. I doubt most of the regular viewers of the Tonight Show are regular consumers of social media (though that is only an opinion), yet the Obama machine very effectively uses social media as well.

Would you find it undignified if he appeared on blogs or facebook or youtube or the like? Personally, I'd prefer to see him on Democracy Now-- Amy Goodman asks the truly difficult questions, and even prompted Bill Clinton to yell at her over the phone a few years ago. It was a precious moment.

scottfrith's picture

Perhaps it's a generational

Perhaps it's a generational thing, but I just don't have a problem with the President appearing on Leno.

For as long as there have been politicians, there have been politicians pretending to been common folks. Remember President Clinton and John Kerry hunting in camo -- or President Bush clearing brush? I found Bill Clinton jogging around Washington in short-shorts far less "dignified" than this Leno appearance, not that I really care about either. I found the President charming, down-to-earth and funny with persuasive metaphors that speak to folks with only a passing understanding in these complex financial issues.

Anonymously Nine's picture

the rest of the world

It looked desperate. That was not the message to send to other world leaders.

I wish he hadn't. He has enough problems. It looked like pandering.

Nobody's picture

are you kidding me?

I think B. is willing to do whatever it takes to communicate to people of all walks of life. The Leno show IMHO is certainly the bread and circus route and not my cup of tea but he handled himself well and hey - hats off to anyone willing to take such risks. That man has moxie and if there is anything Americans appreciate it is moxie.

P.S. ScottF - it's not generational. :-)

Rachel's picture

I'm fine with it. Leno

I'm fine with it. Leno reaches a middle of the road audience. Obama needs to use the bully pulpit to talk about the economy to just those people. What's not to like?

As long as there's no knife throwing like during the days of Johnny Carson (and let's see how many of you young whippersnappers get THAT reference), I see nothing undignified about it.

tennesseevaluesauthority's picture

As long as there's no knife

As long as there's no knife throwing like during the days of Johnny Carson (and let's see how many of you young whippersnappers get THAT reference),

It was a hatchet not a knife. Heh.

And at 40 am I still a whippersnapper or a fogey-in-training.

Rachel's picture

You're right - it was a

You're right - it was a hatchet.

You couldn't possibly have seen that when it first ran; you must have caught a clip show or something.

tennesseevaluesauthority's picture

As a child for some reason

As a child for some reason my parents thought it was okay for me to stay up late and watch Carson with them on selected nights (usually in the summer). I saw it the first time on one of Carson's anniversary shows when he would show clips of his favorite moments. The actual event took place four years before I was born, but I was probably seven or eight years old when I saw it for the first time.

jbr's picture

Ed Ames from Daniel Boone

Ed Ames from Daniel Boone show.

Knobody's picture

8-)

I'm sort of agreeing with metulj.

I don't have a problem with it at all.
That stuffed suit, quasi-royalty image of a President should have been done away with long ago.

Obama has broken a very foolish and delusional mold. The fact that POTUS are presented as some infallible being is part of what keeps politicians out of touch with common people.
Obama simply doesn't want to become out of touch. He is, in fact, the most in touch president since Carter and even more so than he.

Again, the mold Obama just broke will only lead us to bigger, better, more Liberal things in the future.
The definition of looking and acting "presidential" has forever changed for the better. No more corporate-asshat looking clowns in starched suits that appear behind a podium for a few mins then vanish into thin air.
If America wanted that kind of thing we would have elected Mitt Romney.

This is "change" and it's good. Real good.

And yes, Leno is a stooge. But he's not important enough to consider in overall scheme of things nor is his show. The Tonight Show exists for two reasons. The memory of Johnny Carson and the band.

Hildegard's picture

I'm with R Neal and Pat Buchanan on this one.

It's not "just a job." And he's not just one of us. He's a head of state. I guess it's a sensibilities issue, a matter of good taste or bad taste - in other words, totally subjective. But I think snazzy Hollywood talk show appearances are cheesy when you ain't the President. The President showing up for shits and giggles with Jay Leno? Ew.

Some things are beneath the dignity of the office. What we're discussing here is whether this thing was. I'm sure some of you think it would be cute if he guested on Hollywood Squares.

cafkia's picture

I might be more sympathetic

I might be more sympathetic to your position if BO were not following the Dim Son whose relative reclusiveness and propensity to retreat to a brush clearing vacation rather than face the nation did nothing to improve the lower-than-whaleshit opinion I had of him.

I don't know if Leno's questions were pre-approved or spontaneous but, for my money, it was still refreshing to have a prez taking the questions and the responsibility.

CAFKIA

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Rachel's picture

I'm sure some of you think

I'm sure some of you think it would be cute if he guested on Hollywood Squares.

Oh, that would be SO cool. And while he's at it, he should go on professional wrestling.

Come on, Hilde. Jay Leno is not exactly Hollywood Squares.

MDB's picture

Not Hollywood Squares

I'm sure some of you think it would be cute if he guested on Hollywood Squares.

He should go on Match Game instead!

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"How bitter is he?"

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cooperhawk's picture

If he does it again he

If he does it again he better bring his teleprompter with him.

bill young's picture

Beyond Dumb

I didnt see the thing & was cool with it BUT that crack Obama made about Special Olympics was beyond dumb.

JCA's picture

Yes, it was beyond dumb, but

Yes, it was beyond dumb, but a similar thing happened to me years ago on live radio during some mindless banter, and I understand too well how easy it is to engage mouth before brain. The moment the words slip out of your lips you know you're in big trouble, and I sure was. I apologized to everyone I could find but I still feel bad about it.

Pam Strickland's picture

didn't watch

I think Leno is too goofy most of the time. I've only watched snippets of The Tonight Show since he took over. And I grew up staying up late to watch Carson. So, I didn't watch the other night. Oh, there was the fact that I was asleep too.

I understand why BHO did Leno, and I understand that it got the message to the people he wanted it to. That's cool. He's doing one of the news shows on Sunday, I think I heard that. And, he's having a news conference next week. So, I'm cool with the choices so far.

And, I was personally tickled about the NCAA bracket. Basketball is something that BHO clearly loves, and anyone who loves college basketball has a bit of fun with the brackets. I'm doing particularly well so far this year, so I can say that with a smile. That and a friend told me that so far, my picks are stronger than BHO's.

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Thanks, Randy

Fact is, tens of thousands of people have lost their jobs, tens of millions have lost some of their retirement benefits, tens of millions are worried about the stability of their banks, and families of our soldiers in the Iraqi and Afghani War-zones are worried about whether their children, fathers, mothers, sisters, or brothers are going to make it home before tragedy strikes. These are just a few of the things facing every American every day. And while President Obama did not create this parade of horribles, we are looking at him to be the solution. If my parent or my child had lost their job due to corporate layoffs while executives from the same corporation were pocketing hundreds of thousands or millions in bonuses . . . well, I'm sorry folks, but the last thing I want to see is my President chatting with Jay Leno on a talk show about his athletic prowess or lack thereof. These are serious times and we need serious people to deal with them, not a President trying to make sure his poll numbers stay up by "reaching out" to the average guy.

KC's picture

well, I'm sorry folks, but

well, I'm sorry folks, but the last thing I want to see is my President chatting with Jay Leno on a talk show about his athletic prowess or lack thereof. These are serious times and we need serious people to deal with them, not a President trying to make sure his poll numbers stay up by "reaching out" to the average guy.

You know, for a Democrat, you seem to sound real Republican in your criticisms of President Obama.

bizgrrl's picture

You know, for a Democrat,

You know, for a Democrat, you seem to sound real Republican in your criticisms of President Obama.

Geez, it's already been mentioned that your GOP/Republican accusations are narrow-minded. Since when is it a Republican only right to not agree with every little aspect of an administration?

knoxrebel's picture

Narrow-minded

Gary - that's a pretty narrow-minded accusation. But alas, I don't need your approval of my Democrat credentials. Anyone who knows me knows my blood runs pretty blue, not red. Never voted for a Republican for President. But this ridiculous idea you covet of having to agree with the President all of the time is, well, just that, ridiculous. I hope Obama gets it right most of the time, and I've been impressed with many of the things he's done thus far, but on this issue, I (and apparently alot others) just happen not to agree. I'm not going to blindly follow anyone, even if he is a Democrat and the President. That shouldn't seem like that novel of an approach, but maybe it is to some.

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