Fri
Jul 7 2006
09:11 am

I was reading the big news in the Maryville Daily Times that McAllister's Deli is opening a location in Alcoa. Great. Along with the new Marble Slab, Panera Bread, Chili's, and Salsarita, Alcoa is becoming chain-restaurant hell. (Not to mention the Ruby Tuesday, O'Charley's, Applebee's, Ryans, Texas Road House, and others already here.)

The thought crossed my mind that it's starting to look like Turkey Creek over here (without the upscale Super Target), and I was going to blog something to that effect. Then I ran across this, also in the Maryville Chamber of Commerce Newsletter Daily Times, referring to a new retail/office space:

"We came up with a design that is very similar to what you might see at Turkey Creek," Tsakeres said, referring to the West Knox County commercial development.

Swell. (Actually, this is in reference to a pretty nice rebuild of what was once an eyesore. Too bad they had to ruin it with that reference.)

Anyway, if this is going to be Turkey Creek South over here, can we at least get a Steak 'n Shake?

P.S. Here's a chain deli I could tolerate. Wish somebody would open something like that over here.

edens's picture

Randy, considering the

Randy, considering the pictures of your house and subdivision you posted back in the SKB days, you're actually surprised that Blount County is turning into West Knox County?

R. Neal's picture

Yeah, yeah. At least they

Yeah, yeah. At least they don't allow Knox Boxes up in here. And actually, I was hoping more for Germantown or Brentwood. But you pays your taxes and you takes your chances.

(P.S. What's with this obsession about my house? You are at least the third or fourth internet stalker to mention it in as many months. I posted photos of the mountains. And Christmas decorations. Do you hate Christmas? And Baby Jesus?)

edens's picture

>Do you hate Christmas? And

>Do you hate Christmas? And Baby Jesus?

Don't forget freedom!

As for the "obsession," I don't know. I know I've mentioned the place from time to time, usually in the context of your bitching about sprawl. Bitching I find interesting, since there seems to be a wholesale disconnect between people's housing choices and how they relate to sprawl. Around here, people move to Frederick County from Montgomery County and then proceed to bitch about all the people moving in from Montgomery County. And some of the folks get so fed up that they move on out to Hagerstown. I don't know, but I assume that people in Hagerstown bitch about all the people from Frederick County driving up the prices. They probably get fed up and move across the line to Carlisle, PA and so on. Where it ends, I don't know. Altoona, maybe?

Nor is the phenomenon unique to sprawl. Nobody bitches more about Gentrification than the people in the original wave of "gentry."

Rachel's picture

Hey, Turkey Creek South is

Hey, Turkey Creek South is on Chapman Highway in south Knoxville.  Paul Pinkston says so.

 Stop poaching our name! Wink

R. Neal's picture

wholesale disconnect between

wholesale disconnect between people's housing choices and how they relate to sprawl

Guilty as charged. I am becoming more enlightened in my old age, though. Besides, I work from home, and drive mostly to the grocery store. Or my parent's or in-law's house. Or the airport. All are within a 10 mile radius or less. Or the mountains, which are 20 miles away, so that's nice.

Anyway, the only requirement for my next house is woods. I don't really care where it is. Urban, suburban, rural. OK, well, the Mrs. won't go along with the rural part. Already tried that.

The only problem with urban sprawl is internal combustion and a lack of public transportation. Otherwise, it's all good. Except for O'Charley's. I'd like to see more locally owned independent businesses spring up. Unfortunately, America is homogonized to the point that you could be blindfolded and dropped off at any suburban interstate exit anywhere in America and not be able to tell where you are.

SayUncle's picture

Word on the street from some

Word on the street from some of my developer homies is that part of the new strip mall will include "upscale shopping" too. Whatever that means. I'm pretty sure it means Old Navy next to a coffee shop but haven't confirmed.

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SayUncle
Can't we all just get a long gun?

edens's picture

>The only problem with urban

>The only problem with urban sprawl

Now there's another thing, have you noticed how urbanites tend to say Suburban sprawl while people who already live in the burbs typically say urban sprawl?

And I noticed your comment about "Knox Boxes" above and the references to Brentwood and Germantown. Were you being tongue in cheek or is your position that relatively large "estate lots" aren't really sprawl, and that it's ticky-tacky and townhomes that are the problem?

WhitesCreek's picture

Anyway, the only requirement

Anyway, the only requirement for my next house is woods.

Common out to Roane county. I can put you on a view, woods, and twenty minutes to turkey creek with turkeys in the yard at the same time. (Actually you should come out here and check it out before the real estate agents get hold of it.)

Did I mention that the river boat goes down to the eagle nest every evening?

Steve

edens's picture

>Roane county...come out

>Roane county...come out here and check it out.

Fight sprawl by moving father out? Why that's a crackerjack idea. Just ask those folks who bought in West Hills fifty years ago...Or Fox Den thirty years ago...or, apparently, Blount County five years ago...

Tess's picture

Further out?

Excuse me, but with your fixation on sprawl, you might not be aware that Roane County is a unique county, with at least three towns that are their own entities (not West, West, Knoxville).  If somebody wants to live there, they are not sprawing there.  Check it out sometime.  Harriman and Rockwood and Kingston all have a "downtown" and residential streets surrounding those downtowns.  These cities have a community college, banks, churches, schools, and the Emory River, and Watts Bar lake.  Actually, the area has been noticed by people from all over the country, who are moving into Roane in droves to enjoy the natural beauty and amenities.

Andy Axel's picture

I missed this thread,

I missed this thread, thinking it was yet another platform for #9's monomaniacal yammering.

...actually, I was hoping more for Germantown or Brentwood. But you pays your taxes and you takes your chances.

Hell, I wouldn't wish Brentwood on anybody.

The latest openings in restaurants: Moe's Southwest Grill, Pei Wei (aka PF Chang Lite), Chili's, Maggie Moo's, McAllister's, Chick-Fil-A, Cheesecake Factory, Fire of Brazil, Baja Fresh, Carraba's.

And with Green Hills commercial real estate ownership changing hands at the going rate of $4M an acre, I shudder to think about the fate of the indies. It was nice to see Davis-Kidd landing at Green Hills Mall (one of the few redeeming things about that mall, other than the Regal Green Hills 16) but that area is fast becoming the equivalent of Atlanta's Galleria at Lenox, minus the interstate access.

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R. Neal's picture

Hmmm, maybe I meant Belle

Hmmm, maybe I meant Belle Meade?

bizgrrl's picture

The Foothills Marketplace

The Foothills Marketplace renovation is great! The City of Alcoa and its citizens should be happy that someone upgraded an existing structure so nicely. Too bad the Wal-Mart shopping center in Alcoa doesn't take after the Turkey Creek Wal-Mart shopping center.

Yeah, Steak 'n Shake and TooJay's.

And, heh, if we thought West Knox County had neighborhoods like Blount County we might have bought in West Knox County.

zoomfactor's picture

You (and I) are anomalies

But don't you know that everyone just LOVES Turkey Creek? They look at me like I'm crazy when I say I refuse to shop there because of the environmental destruction it wrought. This includes so-called environmentalists - they can't resist the consumeristic pull.

bizgrrl's picture

People look at me in total

People look at me in total agreement when I say I don't shop at Wal-Mart due to poor treatment of their employees. These same people then rave about the good deals and cheap groceries they get at Wal-Mart.

Les Jones's picture

So where do you shop?

"People look at me in total agreement when I say I don't shop at Wal-Mart due to poor treatment of their employees. These same people then rave about the good deals and cheap groceries they get at Wal-Mart."

So where do you shop? And don't say Target, because they're no better than Wal-Mart.


Hey, Les, why don't we just call each other assholes and get it over with. - Somebody on the old Southknoxbubba.net (if that was you, claim your quote and win net.fame!)

Les Jones's picture

Speaking of Turkey Creek

Bubba wants a Steak and Shake. I want Stir Fry Cafe, Mangia, and Border's. They can have Salsarita's back.


Hey, Les, why don't we just call each other assholes and get it over with. - Somebody on the old Southknoxbubba.net (if that was you, claim your quote and win net.fame!)

Les Jones's picture

Speaking of Turkey Creek, par t 2

This YouTube video is pretty awesome: Trip to Turkey Creek.

 

 


Hey, Les, why don't we just call each other assholes and get it over with. - Somebody on the old Southknoxbubba.net (if that was you, claim your quote and win net.fame!)

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