Mon
Jul 17 2006
09:52 pm

The "debate", if that is the correct word, is on.

WATE reported at 5:00 and 6:00 PM Monday that Knox County Sheriff Tim Hutchison would "debate" former Knoxville Mayor Randy Tyree, his opponent in the 2006 Knox County Sheriff’s race, Thursday morning the 20th on radio station WNOX 100.3 FM from 7:00 to 8:30 AM.

WATE's report was self conscious and awkward as WATE showed film footage of Knox County Sheriff Tim Hutchison outside WNOX radio studios where it sounded like he was interviewed on the spot by WATE reporter Adam Longo. From the WATE website:

On his way out of the studio, 6 News asked him why he thinks we are trying to be sensational.

"I'd say to try to raise your ratings up, that was why I'd say you was sensational. I think it's sensational reporting. You not only do it with me, you do it with other things."

The end of the news report closed with Gene Patterson asking what the Sheriff might have thought was sensational, the John Shumaker news report, the Campbell County Mayor Jerry Cross news report, or the Mayor of Lafollette Clifford Jennings news report. It did not occur to Patterson that the incorrect Katrina report about the Sheriff and several Sheriff's Department helicopter pilots helping in the devastation from the flooding from Katrina might be the burr under the saddle. There was no mention of the numerous Wanda Moody news reports.

WATE seems to be in a full court press so they will not have to admit errors in judgment. Are they so far entrenched they are in a state of denial?

In for a dime, in for a dollar, WATE refuses to consider it made a mistake. When digging a hole the best advice is to stop digging. Developing...

R. Neal's picture

So, WATE has apparently

So, WATE has apparently succeeded in getting Sheriff Tim to finally debate Tyree. Great news. Maybe he'll fly in on one of his black helicopters.

Maybe I missed it, but maybe you can fill us in on when Sheriff Tim previously debated Tyree before early voting started in this election? Did he fly in on one of his black helicopters then?

Knoxquerious's picture

Better late than never

I am not sure if this is a good move for the shurf, he should probably keep his strategy of laying low from the public during this election. You know the taxes info will be brought up in the debate. If the sheriff refuses to release his tax information then Hutchison is same ole shady shurf. If he does release his tax info like Randy Tyree did, people of Knox County will see that the shurf has managed to become a multimillionaire while in a very powerful position in office by means of being a "silent partner" in owning a construction company. How much time do you think he spends between making decisions as sheriff of Knox County and weighing options to make millions in construction? People should tune in for this one.

rikki's picture

I hope someone asks the

I hope someone asks the sheriff what he plans to do when the Tennessee Supreme Court rules that he is term-limited.

Andy Axel's picture

Not To Mention the Deputy

"I term-limited the sheriff" doesn't quite have that poetic zing to it.

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rikki's picture

sing it!

I limited the mayor

But I did not limit the register of deeds 

Les Jones's picture

Every time I plant a seed

Sheriff Hutchison always hated me,
For what, I dont know,
Every time I plant a seed,
He said kill it before it grow

 


Hey, Les, why don't we just call each other assholes and get it over with. - Somebody on the old Southknoxbubba.net (if that was you, claim your quote and win net.fame!)

Knoxquerious's picture

He wishes

LOL, I bet the shurf wishes he was involved in the Market Square sting. It would be the 2nd public appearance since the 4th of July!

Rachel's picture

You know, the first thing I

You know, the first thing I wondered when I saw Randy's pix was "How did Shurf Tim get himself left out of this one?"

Anonymous's picture

Sheriff Hutchinson does many

Sheriff Hutchinson does many things which makes a person wonder. He cancels debates at the last minute. He goes out of his way to keep the TBI & America's Most Wanted from featuring the Johnia Berry murder case. It makes a person wonder, could it be that the Sheriff knows who the killer is, and is simply protecting him? Why else would you not want the TBI or America's Most Wanted to help on a case which you are making no progress on? Looks like a cover-up to me.

Bbeanster's picture

Protecting the killer of

Protecting the killer of Johnia Berry? I know it's good sport on this board to blame Hutchison for most everything that's wrong with this county, but that contention is so stupid I cannot let it go unremarked upon. Hutchison says, in the public meetings I have covered when people have asked him why he doesn't go on 'AMW," that although they do not know who killed Johnia Berry, they have good reason to think the killer is a local. He says the FBI profiler who has worked the case also believes that.
Think about this. What America's Most Wanted does is telecast a picture of the perp, somebody sees him in a laudromat and drops a dime -- isn't that how it usually goes? How do you ask people to be on the lookout for someone you cannot describe?
This show brings in tips from Boise Idaho to Bangor Maine, and they all have to be checked out. The task force (now depleted by the death of its chief and the near-nervous breakdown of another officer) would be forced to spend its time and resources running down dead-end leads all over the USA.
Even John Gill (Randy Nichols' chief of staff and no friend of Hutchison) was recently quoted saying that this case is being investigated as hard as any case he's ever seen.
And by the way, do you know that Johnia Berry didn't have to die, even after she was attacked? Do you know that she went from door-to-door in her apartment complex, begging for someone to help her?
I think it is unconscionable to use this tragedy as an election issue, no matter how badly you hate the sheriff. There are some very good cops working this case who care far more about it than Randy Tyree does.
And speaking of stupid, the reincarnation of Tyree into some kind of saintly paragon (actually, come to think of it, I remember that Jim Dykes used to call him "St. Randy" back in the day -- but then y'all probably don't know who Jim Dykes is -- hell, you probably don't know anything about Tyree either)And I'm not even talking about his associations with the Butchers or the trouble he has paying his debts.
And I don't give a damn how you spin it -- the story about how his elderly father-in-law went from being a wealthy citizen with a fine home and property in Sevier County to spending his declining years in a trailer park in Florida because he loaned Randy money to run for governor is not a pretty one.
I see lots of sympathy for pot smokers in messageboard/blog land lately. Randy Tyree made his bones sending college kids to prison for buying/selling/possessing pot. Sometimes very small quantities of pot. He was the first famous narc in this town.
Randy is a very nice, personable guy, but he has a history, just as Hutchison does, just as you or I do. After all the races he has run and lost since he was elected mayor 30-odd years ago, it's amazing to see this display of mass amnesia.
Personally, by way of full disclosure, I do not think Hutchison is without faults, may well be term-limited and I will have a tough time voting for any incumbent this election season.

bizgrrl's picture

Go Beanster! "Randy Tyree

Go Beanster!

"Randy Tyree made his bones sending college kids to prison for buying/selling/possessing pot. "

Yes, we hated him in those days. Don't know him now and have no vote in that election.

Bbeanster's picture

Come to think of it, wasn't

Come to think of it, wasn't it Tyree who sent Joe Hultquist to jail? Now, THERE'S a danger to the community if i ever saw one--

JustJohnny's picture

the only danger....

...is ...eh...nevermind.

Rachel's picture

Good one, Bean.  I just

Good one, Bean.  I just spit my late night red wine onto the screen.

Oh yeah, I remember Tyree and Operation Aquarius all too well.  I'm no huge Randy fan.

And I agree with Betty that the statement about Shurf Tim aiding Johnia Berry's killer is utter bullshit.  Shurf Tim may be a little tin god, but that doesn't make him a friend of criminals.

I can never bring myself to vote for Hutchison because I think he's a meglomaniac who can't be reined in by anybody (it will take TSC and term limits to do that).  I will vote for Tyree.  But it will give me no joy.  And Shurf Tim will win.  Again.

Les Jones's picture

Johnia Berry

"Hutchison says, in the public meetings I have covered when people have asked him why he doesn't go on 'AMW," that although they do not know who killed Johnia Berry, they have good reason to think the killer is a local. He says the FBI profiler who has worked the case also believes that."

Hutchison has been saying that for a year, and there haven't been any arrests yet.

As far as the killer being local, this is what Hutchison's lead investigator in the Johnia Berry murder told Metro Pulse last year: Lyon appears to believe that the criminals originated from Berry’s hometown in the Johnson City-Bristol area. “I think you’re dealing with local individuals here, local being where she’s from,” he says.

So just in case authorities aren't 100% positive the killer is in or from Knoxville, exposure from AMW would be helpful. Johnia's brother has also said that the family is in contact with 48 Hours and other shows.

Lyon was killed in a car wreck a few months ago. With their lead investigator in the case gone it seems to me that the sheriff's office could use some help right now and I'm baffled why they won't take it.

"And by the way, do you know that Johnia Berry didn't have to die, even after she was attacked? Do you know that she went from door-to-door in her apartment complex, begging for someone to help her?"

I know she went door to door. I'm not sure whether she could have been saved if someone had answered. Either way it's irrelevant to whether Hutchison is doing all he can to catch the murderer who actually stabbed her with the knife.

I have no opinion on Tyree except that he's not Hutchison. 


Hey, Les, why don't we just call each other assholes and get it over with. - Somebody on the old Southknoxbubba.net (if that was you, claim your quote and win net.fame!)

Bbeanster's picture

"As far as the killer being

"As far as the killer being local, this is what Hutchison's lead investigator in the Johnia Berry murder told Metro Pulse last year: Lyon appears to believe that the criminals originated from Berry’s hometown in the Johnson City-Bristol area. “I think you’re dealing with local individuals here, local being where she’s from,” he says.

So just in case authorities aren't 100% positive the killer is in or from Knoxville, exposure from AMW would be helpful. Johnia's brother has also said that the family is in contact with 48 Hours and other shows."

I know the family must be deeply frustrated and desperate to find the killer. They want to see something, anything happening. Cannot blame them for that, at all. My beef is with all the half-baked campaign hyperbole this topic has generated. I do not know all the intimate details of this case, but when the spokesman for Randy Nichols' office publicly says that this investigation has been the most exhaustive they've ever seen, that is something that should be considered, IMO, since Nichols and Hutchison are (to put it mildly) not friends.

"And by the way, do you know that Johnia Berry didn't have to die, even after she was attacked? Do you know that she went from door-to-door in her apartment complex, begging for someone to help her?

I know she went door to door. I'm not sure whether she could have been saved if someone had answered. Either way it's irrelevant to whether Hutchison is doing all he can to catch the murderer who actually stabbed her with the knife.

I have no opinion on Tyree except that he's not Hutchison.---"

I realized when I wrote that graf that it was kind of a non-sequitur, but it's just been on my mind since I heard about it. I just thought that is an interesting, and terribly sad factoid about this crime, and yes, it has nothing to do with the subsequent investigation. But it reminds me of the case of Kitty Genovese, who was fatally attacked in an apartment complex in New York City, and whose cries for help were ignored by her neighbors. This case brought on a firestorm of criticism of that city for being heartless and uncaring. The Berry case seems weirdly similar to me, and I wonder if it is a sign of how times have changed since the 60s, when Genovese died. Are we becoming more New York-like -- ie more heartless and less caring?

Bbeanster's picture

Link:
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Les Jones's picture

I know, it disturbed a lot

I know, it disturbed a lot of people that no one came to the door.

If it's any consolation and lets anyone feel better about their fellow man, it was in the middle of the night, and IIRC only one person actually heard the knocking. Unlike Kitty Genovese no one saw Johnia or knew what was happening.

Something else worth considering, in regards to that person who did hear the knock. That apartment complex was wracked by crime. It looks like a nice place, but numerous people have posted stories about their experiences with crime there. Here's one that's relevant:

(link...)

I live in the immediate area where this murder took place. I was astounded that our sheriff stated that this was a "nice" neighborhood. Brendon Park apartments are adjacent to section 8 housing (federal housing)--Warren House-- and are surrounded further by drug infested neighborhoods. I happen to live on a street with very good people who are unfortunately sandwiched between these less than desirable areas. Throughout the summer and fall of last year the police were called repeatedly, sometimes daily to our street as we observed drug deals in plain view. People drove in, walked in, and even carried items that would appear to be stolen past us in plain view. At least 4 cars were broken into on our street, cd's and radios were stolen, 2 townhouses were burglarized. There was a path worn through the woods between Johnia's building at Brendon Park and our street. (A chain linked fence has since been put up to stop the pedestrian traffic). NOT ONE PERSON on our street has ever been questioned or interviewed. This murder happened about 500 yards from my doorstep. After all the crime we reported, it seems more than coincidental to those of us who live in the area and we can't help but think that it may have been related. Those Cd's might very well have belonged to someone on my street whose car was broken in to. An incident took place the week following the murder where a woman was knocking on doors at midnight, screaming and asking for help. I watched her bang on a door then signal to a male in a small red car on the street below. I watched her do this 4 times. I and others called 911. The police were there instantly but pretty much ignored the entire situation. It was pretty clear she was attempting to gain entry to an apartment. I now sleep with a .38 on my nightstand due to all the events that transpired during this time frame. I and others cannot understand why more has not been done in pursuing these avenues. 

(link...)

If you read the reviews at apartmentratings.com, there were complaints about security prior to Johnia's December, 2004 murder. The previous month a body was found in a car at Brendon Park. This review is a month before the murder:

(link...)

As most people have complained, the security issues at B-park are serious. I have lived here for over 2 years and have known several people who have that their cars broken into. I, on the other hand, had a knife taken to my convertible top. Damage in excess of 5k. Of course now I have a garage (which I pay for) But the sad part is the management didn't make any accomadations nor have they done anything about the vandalism problems around here.

This next review five months before the murder describes the very way someone may well have entered Johnia and Jason's apartment.

 http://www.apartmentratings.com/rate/TN-Knoxville-Brendon-Park-247878.html

SAFETY ALERT: Shared balconies mean that anyone can walk up to your back door and peer in. This happened MANY times. People just come up and stand on your balcony because they are open to the public. THIS SUCKS. 

The blood trail shows that the murderer exited the rear of the third floor apartment, onto the balcony, and went down the stairs. A stolen car stereo was also found on the rear stairs, so it's reasonable to assume that's how the murderer entered the apartments.


Hey, Les, why don't we just call each other assholes and get it over with. - Somebody on the old Southknoxbubba.net (if that was you, claim your quote and win net.fame!)

Number9's picture

It is a real debate. They

It is a real debate. They are asking each other questions. Some softballs question to each candidate from Hallerin but some hard questions also.

Knoxquerious's picture

debate able

Well, I guess the debate went ok. Halleran was kind of soft on both of them but he has a show to run at the same time. Could anyone feel Tim's balls drop though when Randy brought up the Income Tax issue?

bill young's picture

debate

back in '70,jimmy carter was in a run-off for the democratic nomination 4 guv...jimma had barely missed getting the 50%+1 to win the nomination out right in the primary....so carter refused to debate. his run off opponent,former guv carl sanders..so sanders ended up debating an emty chair...when ask about what he thought of the debate...jimma broke into a huge smile & said ...i thought the chair won

Bbeanster's picture

Uhhh, no.And eeuwwww.

--Could anyone feel Tim's balls drop though when Randy brought up the Income Tax issue?--

Uhhh, no.
And thank you for that image (not)
EEEEUWWWW

R. Neal's picture

So, can somebody who

So, can somebody who listened post a summary?

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