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Jul 8 2006
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This week's Rolling Stone has an interview with Al Gore. Some excerpts:

Right now we are borrowing huge amounts of money from China to buy huge amounts of oil from the most unstable region of the world, and to bring it here and burn it in ways that destroy the habitability of the planet. That is nuts! We have to change every aspect of that.

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Another part of it is the marketplace of ideas. A few loud voices have enough money to buy repetitive messages, like the Exxon-Mobil ads on the op-ed page of The New York Times. As the big money fueling political commercials does these little short slogans, it becomes even more difficult for a self-governing democracy to be honest with itself about an unprecedented danger that is woven into the fabric of our society.

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[Peak oil is] a sophisticated debate between the geologists on one side and the economists on the other. But the debate over oil reserves misses the point. We have more than enough oil, not to mention coal, to completely destroy the habitability of the planet.

Read the whole thing.

Eleanor A's picture

Outstanding.

It's about time Dems with high profiles like Gore's started discussing the Republicans' irresponsibility in moral terms.

Volunteer Silver's picture

First problem dealing with the global warming issue

among others is having Al Gore as your spokesman is not the way to go. He is a far cry from where he was in the 1980's. Once, he was an intelligent, attractive representative and senator with a beautiful wife and children. Since around 1990 or so, he started on his current path to becoming a partisan hack who relies on emotions over facts. What has alienated him from Tennesseans is not that he is or was a democrat although too many people in my opinion still allow the party label to be the determining factor in whom to vote for. What turns us off is that he has sacrificed reason and intelligence on the altar of expediency.

That aside, I am 100% in agreement that we need to develop methods to reduce and/or ween ourselves off of oil, especially Middle Eastern oil. Whether done for enviromental reasons or energy independence, something of this magnitude takes years even decades to come to fruition. But at least we are starting. The solution will NOT come from government policies or funding. If anything they are part of the problem. The solutions will come from the private sector.

The other issue is the price of oil and gasoline. A lot of talk centers around "price gouging", "greedy oil company executives" and the like. The simple fact of the matter is that whereas as recently as five years ago, the supply exceeded the demand by about six million barrels a day hence prices were a little lower. Now supply and demand are flat. Add on top of that, the US Dollar more or less the global currency has lost about 95% of its value since the Federal Reserve came into effect in 1914. This does not bode well for the U.S. much less the world economy.

Clyde Prestowitz, president of the Economic Strategy Institute stated last year, "Right now, we have a situation in which the US is running huge trade deficits -- about $US650 billion ($766 billion) in 2004 -- which are financed by borrowings from the central banks of Asia -- mainly the Chinese and the Japanese. All the world's central banks are chock-full of US dollars -- they're holding many more dollars than they really want. They're holding those dollars because at the moment there's no great alternative and also because the global economy depends on US consumption. If they dump the dollar and the dollar collapses, then the whole global economy is in trouble.

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"Protecting Your Purchasing Power Through a Value Backed Currency"

Eleanor A's picture

The solution will NOT come

The solution will NOT come from government policies or funding. If anything they are part of the problem. The solutions will come from the private sector.

Yep, right. We can trust corporations implicitly when it comes to the environment. Because they didn't cause the Valdez spill, pour poison into rivers like the Cuyahoga, or encourage the current continued reliance on fossil fuels by most developed nations.

That said, I think you're right on the issue of U.S. currency...probably wouldn't be a bad idea to put a few dollars of your retirement portfolio into a mutual fund that tracks an international index. Although many U.S. corporations do so much business around the world they won't get hit as badly in the case of runaway devaluation. So a large-cap index might be a good idea as well.

Volunteer Silver's picture

When I say private sector, I

When I say private sector, I don't mean big multinational corporations. Corporations are entities that receive their charter powers from the states. No, the solutions albeit seemingly small will come from individuals, small businesses, activists, and what have you. I know that everyone wants a flash in the pan or big bang because it appeals to our desire to see results instantly. Well, I have news for you. God didn't create the world in a day.

Andy Axel's picture

No, the solutions albeit

No, the solutions albeit seemingly small will come from individuals, small businesses, activists, and what have you. I know that everyone wants a flash in the pan or big bang because it appeals to our desire to see results instantly. Well, I have news for you. God didn't create the world in a day.

Nor was the Eisenhower Interstate System.

Rural America wasn't electrified in a day.

The Internet wasn't co-developed by DARPA and public universities with the help of government underwriting in a day, either.

The Tennessee River wasn't dammed in a day.

(So let's just forgo this idiotarian illusion that government action can't and doesn't create results, hm?)

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"The iPod was not developed by Baptists in Waco." -- G.K.

Volunteer Silver's picture

Government don't create anything

but the people who run them(namely career bureaucrats) are sure quick to claim credit for the results once they are eventually realized. Al Gore may have not invented the internet, but the point is well served. Politicians and bureaucrats are not leaders, they are followers:

Andy Axel's picture

Government don't create

Government don't create anything but the people who run them(namely career bureaucrats) are sure quick to claim credit for the results once they are eventually realized.

Uh huh.

Nice check of the Al Gore myth there, too. Predictable, though.

Despite the derisive references that continue even today, Al Gore did not claim he "invented" the Internet, nor did he say anything that could reasonably be interpreted that way. The "Al Gore said he 'invented' the Internet" put-downs were misleading, out-of-context distortions of something he said during an interview with Wolf Blitzer on CNN's "Late Edition" program on 9 March 1999. When asked to describe what distinguished him from his challenger for the Democratic presidential nomination, Senator Bill Bradley of New Jersey, Gore replied (in part):

During my service in the United States Congress, I took the initiative in creating the Internet. I took the initiative in moving forward a whole range of initiatives that have proven to be important to our country's economic growth and environmental protection, improvements in our educational system.

Clearly, although Gore's phrasing was clumsy (and perhaps self-serving), he was not claiming that he "invented" the Internet (in the sense of having designed or implemented it), but that he was responsible, in an economic and legislative sense, for fostering the development the technology that we now know as the Internet. To claim that Gore was seriously trying to take credit for the "invention" of the Internet is, frankly, just silly political posturing that arose out of a close presidential campaign. Gore never used the word "invent," and the words "create" and "invent" have distinctly different meanings — the former is used in the sense of "to bring about" or "to bring into existence" while the latter is generally used to signify the first instance of someone's thinking up or implementing an idea. (To those who say the words "create" and "invent" mean exactly the same thing, we have to ask why, then, the media overwhelmingly and consistently cited Gore as having claimed he "invented" the Internet, even though he never used that word, and transcripts of what he actually said were readily available.)

I know that pointing out the actual *facts* won't stop you and yours from lying about the record, though.

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"The iPod was not developed by Baptists in Waco." -- G.K.

Volunteer Silver's picture

I am sure anyone who has

I am sure anyone who has ever used the internet is fully aware of this matter relating to Al Gore and the internet or lack thereof. Which is why it was even absurd that Gore would imply anything having to do with "create", "invent" or anything else. For someone who has been in public office almost his whole adult life, he should have known better than to use that phrase. Did he think that it was going to just slip away into the shadows of obscurity? Simply put, don't say or write something you don't mean."

"Let us conclude: yes, the government was the founder of the internet. As a result, we are left with a panoply of lingering inefficiencies, misallocations, abuses, and political favoritism. In other words, government involvement accounts for the internet's continuing problems, while the market should get the credit for its glories."

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Factchecker's picture

Compared to anything any

Compared to anything any politician has ever said, Gore's statement that was opportunistically distorted and reframed by the Mighty Wurlitzer, should not have raised any eyebrows whatsoever. 

Moreover, real internet pioneers Robert Kahn and Vinton Cerf, who many believe ARE the fathers of the internet, issued a joint summary in September 2000, regarding their view of Al Gore and the Internet. It stated, "Al Gore was the first political leader to recognize the importance of the Internet and to promote and support its development. . . . No other elected official, to our knowledge, has made a greater contribution over a longer period of time." 

Sounds like Gore took the initiative in creating the internet!

BTW, did you know that among virtually hundereds of real quotes made by our preZnent (and not misquotes, like Gore's remark), have been claims that he is the greatest human rights president ever and, just this week, that he is in the process of solving global warming

Where has Michael Moore and the liberal MSM been to put those statements into the conventional wisdom lexicon of political history the way the GOP did to Gore's misquote?

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Never has the left been so right.

gttim's picture

LOL!

<I>The solutions will come from the private sector.</I>

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!

 

 

Steve Plonk's picture

Gore's Excerpts

Kind folks and gentle people: The private and public sectors need
to work together on environmental problems. Gore has given us some
tough talk that we need to act upon. Time to get busy...Even the Ford
Motor company appears to be listening. Alternative fuel is a necessary thing for all concerned. Oil sands in Alberta, not withstanding...Get real people and let's have a comparative dialog.

R. Neal's picture

Well I'll be. It's Steve

Well I'll be. It's Steve Plonk. Welcome back!

Factchecker's picture

And I was thinking Steve

And I was thinking Steve Mule was Steve Plonk.  Well, welcome back indeed.

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