Thu
Oct 5 2006
05:10 pm
By: Andy Axel  shortURL

In its cowardly, race-baiting advertising campaign, the National Republican Senatorial Committee asks...

Rep. Harold Ford (D-TN) seized on the cybersex scandal surrounding former Rep. Mark Foley (R-FL) Wednesday to deflect a question about an NRSC ad which asks: "What kind of man parties with Playboy Playmates in lingerie then films a commercial in a church pew?"

...and Harold Ford Jr. answers.

"I'm not going to take a lecture on morality from a party that took hush money from a child predator," said Ford Wednesday in Memphis, TN after speaking to the downtown Kiwanis Club.

Too right, Mr. Ford Junior, sir. Too right.

[via TGW]

LissaKay's picture

Eh?

But it's OK to re-elect child predators ... right?

Andy Axel's picture

Not really. I grew up in

Not really. I grew up in Dan Crane's district in Illinois (he was actually my neighbor's family dentist before he turned to a life of propositioning minors in the page pool) and my parents -- among others -- voted that bastard out of office.

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cafkia's picture

I should probably not say this but ...

 I should probably not say this but there is something very Clintonesque in the politics of the man by confronting charges made against him quickly and decisively.  For many of you, that will not read as a compliment but, I assure you it is.  Regardless of what you think of his ideals or morals, politically, there are damn few that play the game any better.

CAFKIA 

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Eleanor A's picture

Yeah, but

Whaddaya mean? Apparently Foley'd been stalking pages for ten years. I don't mean to be combative, but how is that facing up to the nature of his wrongdoings...?

WhitesCreek's picture

Oh, Eleanor...Hastert's

Oh, Eleanor...Hastert's office has only known about it for three years...They have acted quickly and decisively. I know this because I heard Denny say so yesterday several times on Fox news... So there!

CBT's picture

The timeline in the KNS

The timeline in the KNS earlier in the week indicated the only known contact was one, non-sexual email sent a year or so ago. The sexual emails/IM's only came to light in recent weeks. If you have one non-sexual email contact, do you launch a full-scale investigation and risk labeling someone as a child molester?

Hindsight is 20-20. I'll be interested to see the results of the investigation. Maybe House leaders should have done more. If Hastert and other leaders had more knowledge of Foley's activities, heads should roll.

As an aside, I do find it interesting that the same Democrats who said the country should not be pre-occupied with the President of the United States having sex with a young intern in the Oval Office are now railing against Republican Foley. I'm not defending Foley. He was dead wrong...and so was Bubba.

Andy Axel's picture

The timeline in the KNS

The timeline in the KNS earlier in the week

You might want to find something a little more recent.

I'm not defending Foley.

Actually, you are defending Foley. And Hastert. And the Republican Party.

And apparently you don't know the difference between statutory rape and sexual activity between consenting adults.

And not as an aside, what is with this Republican obsession with the Clenis?

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Factchecker's picture

Rumors and smears, GOP style

The timeline in the KNS earlier in the week indicated the only known contact was one, non-sexual email sent a year or so ago.

You must have not seen today's KNS or other more recent news reports. 

The sexual emails/IM's only came to light in recent weeks. If you have one non-sexual email contact, do you launch a full-scale investigation and risk labeling someone as a child molester?

They had a lot more than that, longer ago than that, and such an investigation would have proven the label to be correct. 

Moreover, can you imagine yourself, CBT, applying this same logic to endless alleged land investment investigations about Clinton which inexplicably led to weak and discredited accusations from Paula Jones, confessed liars who were Arkansas state troopers, etc.?  Pretty funny!  Almost as funny as your joke about the Dow record showing how good Bush has ruined run the economy.

If Hastert and other leaders had more knowledge of Foley's activities, heads should roll.

Very clearly, many GOP leaders did.  I won't bother linking, because I'm sure it wouldn't do any good on you, but such news links are quite easy to find.

Andy Axel's picture

Moreover, can you imagine

Moreover, can you imagine yourself, CBT, applying this same logic to endless alleged land investment investigations about Clinton which inexplicably led to weak and discredited accusations from Paula Jones, confessed liars who were Arkansas state troopers, etc.? Pretty funny! Almost as funny as your joke about the Dow record showing how good Bush has ruined run the economy.

I'm trying to imagine how CBT would rationalize this situation...

Mr. CBT, you sent your daughter to participate in the 'Tomorrow's Leadership Today' semester in Washington, DC. Turns out that a Republican congressman was sending her instant messages, in which he...

* complimented her "tight little package"
* asked if she wore thong panties
* asked if she was a virgin
* asked how often that she masturbated, and how she did it
* insisted that he would "walk several miles for a hot piece of [her] ass"

We are unable to ascertain whether or not this went any further, but as a former GOP chairman yourself, you realize that there's an extremely competitive race coming up. The balance of the House is at stake. (And although the news has brought up the minor matter of a hundred thousand dollar donation to our Victory Fund from Rep. Fondlekinder, we won't get into that. There was no quid-pro-quo.)

So we assume that you'll be just fine if we, well, don't discuss this little matter. You understand, right?

Sincerely,

Ken Mehlman

If it was my child, I'd be through the roof. Seriously. I don't care what the "context" was or how "many" there were or even how my child dealt with the situation. I'd want the ass of the individual responsible on the line and dealt with. Immediately.

Hell, I don't care if it was a "prank" or the kid was "asking for it." The adult should know better and not participate. All this fudging and fiddling is meant to obscure the central fact of this lurid tale.

Fact of the matter, I cannot for the life of me conceive of a situation in which this would be understandable or appropriate. There is no appropriate sexual advance from a 50-something man to a teen-ager. None.

What kind of man makes excuses for a man making sexual advances to any child?

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Thomas Nephew's picture

Way to go, Ford!

It doesn't wash out his MCA2006 vote, but Ford is showing the rest of the party the way on this: hit back, and hit harder than you got hit.

Eleanor A's picture

Furthermore

Hey! Here's CBT, ignoring us again. He must have nothing better to do today than sit in here and engage we mindless troglodytes. Or so he'll claim, anyway.

Clinton didn't have Gore, Albright, a slew of Cabinet secretaries and other high-ranking officials covering up the intern-diddling, and ensuring a steady supply of new talent to engage the fantasies of some pedophile. (The Republicans didn't even have the decency to remove Foley from the co-chairmanship of the cyber-safety committee, though the leadership knew about his peccadilloes.) I have it on pretty good authority that Monicagate was a closely held secret on the part of Clinton, not one everyone in town knew about and actively fell all over themselves to cover up. (I'd hazard Gore in particular had no idea this was happening and was just as surprised as anyone when it broke.)

Furthermore, by way of hush money, Clinton didn't give anybody $100,000 to stop them from talking. If anything, despite her lobbying like hell for a better job, Lewinsky herself got only a pissant low-level position with the Clinton Administration buried deep in the bureacracy of a not-terribly-glamorous Federal agency...Clinton could've lifted a finger and made her Ambassador to Malta. Yet he didn't. (Meanwhile, Bush is changing Federal rules so he can appoint any incompetent hack head of FEMA he wants...although that's a different tangent for now...)

the baldface hyposcrisy of the American Right when it comes to issues of sexuality.

I think that's really what's hurting 'em, tell you the truth. Everyone remembers all too well Ken Starr spending $200 million on an investigation into nothing, the subsequent impeachment (and should I mention the subsequent total distraction of the Clinton White House for several years when they should have been focusing on running the country? It's well known in Washington circles that Ken Starr sent subpoenas to lots of low-level staffers, simply to run up their legal bills into the six digits and force them into bankruptcy.)

It really looks bad, their using the Clinton escapades to whip up their loyalists into a frenzy and then pretend there's nothing to it when their side is guilty as sin of something worse.

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