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Nov 29 2008
08:06 pm

Since its the shopping season, I was thinking of Knoxville retailers that have gone to that great discount bin in the sky.

Some I can remember

  • Sterchi's Furniture -- google says there's Sterchi's in Kentucky, but are they gone from Knoxville?
  • Speaking of furniture, Mad Jack Fielding's Furniture Warehouse Outlet -- how could anyone who had a TV in Knoxville in the late Seventies or early Eighties forget Mad Jack? (You might want to forget him, but that's different.)
  • Hills -- low end department store, noted for their no credit cards policy
  • Watson's -- mid range clothing
  • Giant Food -- there's still Giants in the mid-Atlantic and PA, but I think both are different chains. (And don't get me started about the decline of Giant here in Maryland since the founder died and his heirs sold off the chain to a Dutch conglomerate....)
  • White Stores/Whiteway -- noted for being a grocery store that wouldn't sell beer, which got them business from religious conservatives. Become Red Food, then Food City.
  • Miller's -- somewhat high end department store, now Dillards (?)
  • The Knox -- another high-end department store, long-gone
  • Yankee Peddler -- okay, a geek favorite, but a little store in Farragut that sold Dungeons and Dragons paraphernalia and the like.
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Justin's picture

Don't forget Proffitt's.

Don't forget Proffitt's.

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MDB's picture

At least they weren't

At least they weren't acquired by Macy's.

I've got two good friends, including my partner, from Chicago-land. They, and the rest of Chicago, will never forgive Macy's for converting Marshall Fields to their own name. (And that's looking to go down as one of the worst marketing moves in history.)

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Will 's picture

White's still exists in the

White's still exists in the Tri-Cities with several locations around Johnson City. Hill's was sort of like if Big Lots and Kmart were to merge.

bizgrrl's picture

Jilly's on Market Square.

Jilly's on Market Square. Probably not there long. Just happens to be where I purchased my non-traditional wedding dress.

Tuckers Records (?) on Market Square.

The Toggery on Cumberland, fine men's clothing.

The Athletic House on Gay Street and various other locations.

Gateway Books at the corner of Gay and Main, and a few other locations. Best bookstore in town for quite a while.

Cole's Drug Stores, I believe.

Tic Toc Drive-In on Magnolia.

Let's go way back, the drug store on a corner of Cumberland where the student center sits. Ernest & Ernest, maybe?

MDB's picture

I forgot Gateway?????

Wow, I can't believe I forgot Gateway Books -- they helped nurture my love of reading. I remember it always being a special occasion to go to their main store downtown, which I believe was torn down to make way for Whittle Communications. Certainly a casualty of the national bookstore chains.

E&E was before my time at UT, but I know my Mom has mentioned it from her student days.

And I can remember the original hand-made Cabbage Patch Kids (the ones that cost $100/each, in the late Seventies) having a store downtown. My sister had one, and we'd go there occasionally. The staff obviously were having great fun. They'd explain the personalities of the various dolls, including the troublemaker that beat up the other ones. You didn't buy a doll, you adopted one, with a ceremony. I think I was the witness to my sister's adoption of Deborah Anita. And they had the "baby grands", which wore formal wear and jewelry, and went for $1000/each. The spirit of fun there makes me think of the staff at a good Build-a-Bear now.

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bizgrrl's picture

E&E was before my time at

E&E was before my time at UT, but I know my Mom has mentioned it from her student days.

Yeah, my Dad was a professor and had an office on Cumberland in an old house, near E&E and no longer there. It was a real treat to visit him and his office and then go to E&E for ice cream.

Stan G's picture

Where did you go wrong?

Where did you go wrong? :-)

I recall walking east on Cumberland with one of the university auditors when he pointed to the clinic and said something to the effect of: "The folks in that building just don't understand anything about accounting."

E&E coexisted with the University Center for several years. The University bought the building and E&E moved to Gay Street next to the Hamilton National Bank Building, now The Holston.

On another note, I was talking with your Mount Olive Science Teacher a few weeks ago and passed along your comment. She asked who and I drew a blank since she would not know you as bizgrrl. I finally came up with you Dad's name and she immediately recalled you and your first name.

bizgrrl's picture

Hah! "The Clinic". Not

Hah!

"The Clinic". Not understanding anything about accounting was possibly very true. Or, they didn't care.

To reiterate, she was a great science teacher, IMO. Thanks for passing on my comments. It is good to let those who did good know there efforts paid off. I had no real interest in science until I encountered her as a teacher. I hope I did not give her too much trouble.

homesickjimmy's picture

E & E

bizgrrl: wasn't that short for Ellis & Ernest ? later...homesickjimmy

bizgrrl's picture

You are correct.A little

You are correct.

A little photographic history of E&E from the library's McClung Historical collection.

And a little Cumberland Ave. history from a 1997 Torchbearer, which also mentions E&E.

Then, has anyone mentioned Sam & Andy's? In researching Ellis & Ernest, I came across this 1997 Sam Venable article.

bill young's picture

How could I forget

The Roman Room..

Tissi's picture

Drug Store on Cumberland

It was Ellis and Ernest.

Factchecker's picture

Zayres. Also Millers in Oak

Zayres. Also Millers in Oak Ridge used to be in Loveman's. I think it was always (?) Millers in Knox, though. Someone will correct, I'm sure.

What was the cool hobby store downtown? The Hobby House, maybe?

MDB's picture

Zayres! Another one I left

Zayres! Another one I left out.

And a similar one called Grants. That brings back a family memory -- when Grants went under, my grandmother bought a lot of stuff there, dirt cheap, and referred to them having "went bankrupt". This led to my sister informing our babysitter that "our grandmother went bankrupt."

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Bbeanster's picture

I grew up on

I grew up on Watson's.
Literally.
Back in the 50s when my grandmother used to take me to town, we'd always go to Watson's. I frequented Watson's for 40-plus years and would be doing so today, if it had survived. I bought clothing for myself there. It was the first place I saw real silk (which was very scarce in the USA before the China market opened up). I bought a full-length cashmere coat there in the 70s that hangs in my closet today. I shopped for my children there, and over the years bought jewelry, furniture, dishes, even appliances. I loved introducing transplanted shopaholics to it over the years, because they'd always fall in love with Watson's. iirc, Bill Young sold shoes there for awhile.

We'd also go to Kress's and Woolworth's (all these stores were suffixed with apostrophe s', as far as we were concerned, and they both had lunch counters with those round stools -- not that we ever ate there -- the S&W is where we lunched, thank you very much.

Just a couple of doors north of Kress's was Miller's, which was really elegant, and had a big, fancy lady's room with floor-to-ceiling mirrors in the sitting room, and even a make-up room where you could primp as long as you wanted. There were attendants (always black ladies in uniforms with big frilly handkerchief corsages) who would give you hand towels when you actually went to the loo. You could get your hair done there, read books and spray yourself with fancy perfume from big atomizers sitting around on the counters.

We went to the Knox some, but mostly what I remember about it was the large, Kate Smith-looking woman who used to come on the Mary Starr Show demonstrating the foundation garments available for sale in Knox's Intimate Apparel Department. Those were some heavy-duty corsets and girdles -- not made to allure, but to buttress, shore up, slim down and tame into submission. God, they were scary.

MDB's picture

Mary Starr

the Mary Starr Show

Mary Starr!

My Mom still uses her cookbook!

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Robert Perry's picture

Watsons

I worked for Watsons for 26 years They were a ynique department store Bought a lot of salvage goods

Stan G's picture

As I recall Grant's was more

As I recall Grant's was more of a 5 and 10 similar to Woolworth's than it was to Zayres. But, since you mentioned Zayres, lets not forget Atlantic Mills on Sutherland. Saturday wasn't Saturday without a visit to one or both of them.

A few years before my arrival in Knoxville the Grant's building housed a local department store called George's that for many was one of the more popular stores on Gay Street.

At the other end of the same block, now the Knoxville Tourism and Sports Building, was General Products, a discount catalog store that later moved to Kingston Pike, now Office Depot.

Across Gay Street was Hall Brown's, one of Knoxville's better men's and women's clothing stores.

Bizgrrl recalled Woodruff's where in the basement you could buy a single screw for pennies or go upstairs to purchase furniture and appliances.

R. Neal's picture

Atlantic Mills on

Atlantic Mills on Sutherland

Yeah, I forgot about that. My parents took us there a lot. We parked down the block and had to walk by Tom's Potato Chip factory. Which made you hungry for the popcorn at Atlantic Mills.

I got lost and separated from my parents at Zayres one time. I found an employee and they announced the lost boy discovery over the intercom. It was as terrifying as it was humiliating.

Joe328's picture

Lost in Atlantic Mills

Most every child was lost at one time in Atlantic Mills. You must remember they allowed kids to play with the toys and that's how most of us got lost. I can't remember a single visit to Atlantic Mills that several announcements were made for lost kids.

R. Neal's picture

General Products Yes, I

General Products

Yes, I remember that one too. Didn't they get acquired by Service Merchandise somewhere along the way before they went bankrupt?

And for some reason that reminds me of "Unclaimed Freight" out on Central.

zq's picture

Before it was Hall Browns,

Before it was Hall Browns, there was Halls Department store in Western Plaza and across the street it was Fred Brown's clothing. (It was in the same shopping center where Longs Drug Store still lives today) The big thing was that twice a year they both had big sales, opened early and provided coffee and doughnuts.

bizgrrl's picture

Millers in Knox was Rich's,

Millers in Knox was Rich's, the old Atlanta-based department store.

Stan G's picture

Millers on Gay was Millers.

Millers on Gay was Millers. Millers on Henley was once Rich's.

mjw's picture

And before that...

Rich's was once George's, if I'm to believe my memory of what my mother told me.

redmondkr's picture

What was the cool hobby

What was the cool hobby store downtown?

In the early to mid 1960s The Hobby Shop on Clinch got all my spare money for a growing HO scale model railroad in Dad's basement. How well I remember the thrill of finally getting an A-B-B-A set of Santa Fe War Bonnets out of lay away.

And speaking of 'fallen flags' of commerce, we can't forget the supermarkets of the 'Old Coon Hunter' Cas Walker. I remember his new stores being nice and bright and clean but, as they aged, cleanliness and maintenance took a back seat.


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MDB's picture

I am ashamed

And speaking of 'fallen flags' of commerce, we can't forget the supermarkets of the 'Old Coon Hunter' Cas Walker.

I left out Cas Walker's. I hang my head in shame, and will forego thumpin' good melons for a month in penance.

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R. Neal's picture

I was also thinking about

I was also thinking about Gateway Books and the A-House that the Mrs. mentioned, and also the Toggery.

Some others are Gateway Sporting Goods and Surplus City on Chapman Highway. And of course, Cas Walker's.

And the original Fowler's Furniture downtown, which was nothing like the new incarnation.

On Sevier Ave. there was Kent's Drug Store and Sevier Hardware and Variety, and Bondurant Bros. Applicance and Electronics, plus one of the White Stores and a King's Grocery store a block apart.

Also Blue Circle drive-ins.

MDB's picture

And Malcolm's

Also Blue Circle drive-ins.

There was also Malcolm's on Clinton Highway in Norwood, another drive-in, and a personal favorite of my family. For some reason, I remember they had crinkle-cut fries.

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Steve Creech's picture

Malcolm's was also a favored

Malcolm's was also a favored spot for me, my family and friends. Everything was always cooked fresh to order, always tasty (no matter what you ordered) and to my knowledge there wasn't a bad item on the menu. Being in a small, compacted area, parking could be difficult at times,but other than that, I wish they were still in business this very day.

bizgrrl's picture

Then there was Woodruff's on

Then there was Woodruff's on Gay Street. And the Fogartys men's store, also on Gay Street.

R. Neal's picture

Hall Brown and Fogarty's

Hall Brown and Fogarty's reminded me of another that I bet no one remembers.

Squiz Green had a haberdashery and fine mens clothing store on Gay. It may have been on the corner with the Bijou, don't remember because I think I was about two years old (or maybe that's where Fogarty's was, or maybe they were both there).

My dad worked in the store for Squiz Green and later as an accountant and general manager for Squiz's Hand Craft Cleaners operation. He was the best dressed accountant downtown and had some great hats.

(As I recall, Squiz Green was the Jewish Cas Walker of downtown. He would sell you the clothes and then make more money cleaning them for you.)

Stan G's picture

To refresh your memory,

To refresh your memory, Green’s was located on Clinch across from the Custom House. More than likely, your dad took you next store to treat you and to show you off at White’s Restaurant.

Chubby’s was located on the corner of Clinch and Market. New to Knoxville, one morning I ordered coffee and a Danish. Chubby, who was larger than chubby, jumped off his stool and shouted to his staff: “See, see, they’re Danish; they’re not sweet rolls.”

Having worked for Hand Craft Cleaners around the corner on Market, I’ll hazard the guess that he treated the family to baked goods from Federal Bakery.

R. Neal's picture

You worked for Hand Craft?

You worked for Hand Craft?

Stan G's picture

No, I had my dry cleaning

No, I had my dry cleaning done there however -- fine folks. I was suggesting the possibility of your dad bringing goods home from Max Wolfe's Federal Bakery, which was a few storefronts north of Hand Craft.

R. Neal's picture

Ah, got you. He spent a lot

Ah, got you. He spent a lot of time there and their other stores (dropping off payrolls, picking up receipts, filling in at the counter when someone didn't show up, fixing boilers, etc. etc.) and I hung out in the alley behind sometimes waiting for him. I don't remember Federal Bakery, but I'm sure we had some of their goods. His "real" office was on Gay (in the Burwell Bldg. or somewhere thereabouts, don't remember exactly).

KatoKnox's picture

Schriver's

Schriver's Menswear on Gay Street.

RIP Marvin...

Joe328's picture

Wade's Bakery

Wade's Bakery had several locations and don't forget Kern's Bakery on Magnolia. Does anyone remember Homer's restaurant or Wright's Bakery on Broadway? Wright's Bakery is where the first Shoney's was located in Knoxville.

I almost forgot the S&H Green Stamp stores.

Bbeanster's picture

S&H green Stamps -- Don't

S&H green Stamps --
Don't forget Cas's green stamps -- C&R, I believe. He had the redemption store right next door to his Magnolia Avenue supermarket.

Joe328's picture

Magnolia Ave

Magnolia Ave and Broadway was the place to be years ago. If you remember the C&R store then I assume you remember the Cherry Street Restaurant, one of the better restaurants in Knoxville.

I grew up in west Knoxville and we had Bill's Drive-in, Paro's (not sure about spelling), Albertes (not sure on this one either), and several high risk night clubs as you continued west. There was no interstate and There were plenty of truck stops on Kingston Pike past Bearden Hill.

If I misspelled some of the names someone please correct me.

Stan G's picture

And, a few blocks north on

And, a few blocks north on Walker Boulevard, Weaver's Restaurant with its Broasted Chicken.

Joe328's picture

Brown's Brosted Chicken

Don't forget Brown's Drive-in on Central and The Hollywood Restaurant on Papermill Rd. Both places served brosted chicken. Does anyone still have brosted chicken and potatoes?

Pat's picture

Broasted Chicken

You can still by Broasted Chicken at Lisa's in Jefferson City, I drive up there about once a month! Yummmmm

Bbeanster's picture

My late husband, Joe

My late husband, Joe Sbuttoni, was a journalism student at UT when I met and married him (we were both 19). He worked as a copy boy at the Journal, where one of his jobs was driving Guy Smith home at night. Another of his jobs was writing stories about local boys who were killed in SE Asia. He'd get the info by phone, but he'd usually have to go the their homes and try to talk the family out of a photo. I remember how disgusted he was on one occasion when he came back empty-handed because the widow had reacted to the terrible news by going shopping. Her family informed Joe that she'd "...gone to Zayres's." He figured she was spending his life insurance money in advance.

Sadly, he graduated and met the same fate as the boys he'd written about. I didn't go to Zayres's, though.

R. Neal's picture

This is a real stream of

This is a real stream of nostalgia consciousness thread. I was googling "Squiz Green" and found this excerpt from a murder mystery that mentions his store (which according to the novel was on Market Square) and some other East Tennessee lore from the 1950s. It also mentions the Tennessee School of Beauty, where my mom went, and characters who fought at Cassino in WWII, where my Dad was.

And then, I was telling the Mrs. about it, and mentioned that it was written by some guy named Richard Marius, and she said oh yeah, she remembers him. He was a UT professor and a friend of her Dad's (and apparently one of the Nixon protest co-conspirators).

It's a small world...

Pam's picture

Tennessee School of Beauty

Doris's Beauty Shop. Doris retired and closed down her beauty shop of 35 years but, she still does hair.

bill young's picture

Coffin Shoe Company

Been around for a long time..I think Coffin's opened in 1928..first on Clinch..then in the mid fifites moved to where the store is now..Bearden Center.

It was opened by Hector Coffin then his son Jim Coffin took over & now Jim's son Park is in charge.

For a while Jim's brother Charley owned the store on Broadway that closed some years back.

Coffin Shoe Company owned by 3 generations of Knoxvillians.

bizgrrl's picture

Zesto ice cream, on Kingston

Zesto ice cream, on Kingston Pike, somewhere around or just past Homberg area, I think. With six kids that was one of the few places we went for treats.

Lazy Susan restaurant, again on Kingston Pike, somewhere around Naples, I think. Might have even been the same building.

Bbeanster's picture

George's was an old

George's was an old Knoxville department store that may have been bought out by Atlanta-based Rich's which came in and built the big, red-glazed brick building on Henley at Clinch that is now the UT Conference Center. My family church, First Methodist was right behind it, where the Hilton parking garage is now, and us kids used to play in the garden area, which had trees, a pool and a fountain back than. that was a cool store, with a very fancy restaurant on the top floor, a decent cafeteria and a bakery on the ground floor and a tunnel under Henley connecting it to the parking garage across the way. That place had everything, including Kermit Ewing's wife, Mary, running the snooty home decor department on the third floor.

bizgrrl's picture

That place had everything,

That place had everything, including Kermit Ewing's wife, Mary, running the snooty home decor department on the third floor.

Interesting. As I recall, in her later years, Ms. Ewing had a condo not far from there.

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that was a cool store, with

that was a cool store, with a very fancy restaurant on the top floor, a decent cafeteria and a bakery on the ground floor and a tunnel under Henley connecting it to the parking garage across the way. That place had everything, including Kermit Ewing's wife, Mary, running the snooty home decor department on the third floor.

4th floor. Or at least it was the 4th floor when I worked there in college (it was Millers then). I had a summer and Christmas job, sitting in a windowless office under the parking garage that you reached by going through the non-public part of the tunnel (dark, grimy, and used for storage). The job was putting charge tickets in alphabetical order by hand, for which I was paid minimum wage.

And FWIW, I bought my first birth control pills at Cole's Drug Store on the corner of Cumberland and 17th. I think they cost me $2.50 for a month's supply.

Oh, and when I was a kid my cousins got all their clothes from Nancy Lynn's in Burlington. I was jealous, because my mom made most of mine.

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Oops

From a slightly later era, my favorite haberdasher was Oops, which then became Goofs. First on the strip then they moved to Magnolia near the old Catholic High.

I still have a pair of their wide bottom cordury jeans, just for nostalgia's sake.

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redmondkr's picture

We used to go downtown every

We used to go downtown every year to get new clothes just before school started. Mom herded my brother and me onto the bus that ran between Oak Ridge and Knoxville (she called it the 'local breakdown') and we made the entire day of it.

I know at my age my taste buds aren't what they used to be but the hamburgers from the Krystal on Gay street were such a treat. And then there was the Orange Julius or, if you were really adventurous, a Pineapple Julius. In later years the fascination with both went away.

I still have my mother's Mary Starr cookbook, too. One of the most memorable recipes she used to make was a chocolate truffle called Martha Washington Jets. One variety had a bit of instant coffee in the fondant and it was so good. The taste of the lemon variety hit me squarely in the face about a month ago when I bought a container of Kays Lemon Custard ice cream and poured some chocolate syrup on a dish of it.

And remember the Capri 70? I saw the Knoxville premier of 2001: A Space Odyssey there in 1968. We arrived in a pea-green '59 VW Beetle covered with multicolored stick-on flowers and I wore a matching pea-green velveteen Nehru jacket and a gold plated copper peace symbol that I had made.

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MDB's picture

Ah, the Krystal

Krystal's are another family favorite.

My Mom says she still hasn't forgiven my Aunt and Grandmother for going out to the Krystal while she was in labor with me.

And its a family tradition. My niece, who's five, loves them. She's a finicky eater, but her mother describes Krystal as the only kind of "beef" (quotes intentional) that she'll eat.

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Factchecker's picture

Mmmm good

I know at my age my taste buds aren't what they used to be but the hamburgers from the Krystal on Gay street were such a treat.

That was my favorite. My parents would give me some money to eat at the counter there while they ate at The Brass Rail a few doors (?) down. That Krystal didn't put mustard or ketchup on the burgers, both of which I hated. Just fresh off the grill with the diced onions they were cooked with.

MDB's picture

Krystals and Ketchup

I still eat my Krystals smothered in ketchup (preferably refrigerated.)

You have to do something to disguise the taste, of course... ;-)

Oh, and for what its worth -- it is true -- the Northern states' White Castle is very much like Krystal. Though their burgers have holes in them.

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KC's picture

Blue Circle and later the

Blue Circle and later the Brass Rail on Gay Street.

Saw "The Sting" at the Capri Cinema.

KC's picture

And what was it "Crazy

And what was it "Crazy Al's?" with the TV commercials?

MDB's picture

"One-Eyed" Car Dealer

Which car dealership was it that had the spokesman with an eyepatch?

As I remember, someone noticed that the patch had switched eyes over time, and they admitted he had perfectly good sight in both eyes; the patch was just an attention getter.

After that was revealed, the aforementioned Mad Jack did a commercial with patches on both eyes, figuring if one was good, two were better.

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Rachel's picture

As long as we're talking

As long as we're talking theaters, I still miss the Park. The first time I ever went there I was 16 and my grandmother took me to see Gone with the Wind (no, it wasn't 1939). I remember she cried loudly when Melanie died and embarrassed my 16 year old self exceedingly.

Used to go there when I was in college too.

Joe328's picture

Park Theater

I rode the bus with several school friends to see Romeo and Juliet at the Park Theater.

Bbeanster's picture

I loved Mad Jack's TV

I loved Mad Jack's TV commercial with Percy, an african American midget. Jack would sing "Me and my dog and my best black friend..."

Jack tried to make a comeback as a daredevil in abut 1990. He was preparing to jump off some building into a vat of Jell-O, and he was juping off the roof of his garage onto a pile of mattresses. This was some years after he got in trouble with that stripper down in Florida -- as I recall, the cops found him passed out in her bathtub drunk after he broke into her house.

Joe328's picture

Shakey's Pizza

Shakey's Pizza on Kingston Pike had good pizza but didn't last long that far from town. The Jolly Ox was located on Kingston Pike in front of Bearden High School. The real name was Steak and Ale but local laws prohibited the use of "Ale" or any alcoholic beverage name on an outdoor sign.

There was a drive-in located on Kingston Pike in the Bearden area that served hamburgers with a slice of pineapple.

The original Cider Barn on Clinton Hwy at Emory Rd. had great cider in several flavors.

Stan G's picture

I'm thinking most hamburgers

I'm thinking most hamburgers were better then. I recall the gourmet burgers at the original Ruby Tuesday on the Strip were particularly good. The reason, I believe, was that the beef was local and hadn't been frozen. Randy may recall walking across the Gay Street Bridge and watching the cattle climb the ramp at East Tennessee Packing Company.

Speaking of Steak and Ale, and thinking of Randy, I'd drop by most Sunday nights. They served a hefty shot, possibly a double, and had a late Sunday night happy hour when they served two for one. I'd order a single malt scotch straight up. It would just about fill the Old Fashion Glass they served it in and they'd charge me something like two dollars, maybe three.

MDB's picture

Jolly Ox

The Jolly Ox was located on Kingston Pike in front of Bearden High School. The real name was Steak and Ale but local laws prohibited the use of "Ale" or any alcoholic beverage name on an outdoor sign.

I always thought Jolly Ox was a better name. Steak and Ale was kinda blah; Jolly Ox had the ring of an English pub to it.

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Opinari's picture

Interesting stuff...

Thanks to everyone who has contributed to this thread. This Knoxville expat has certainly enjoyed being reminded of pieces of his childhood. Two eateries that I haven't seen mentioned yet - Padgett's in Lonsdale, and the Round Up in South Knoxville... and I still miss Kay's Ice Cream. I'm glad the one on Lindy Road is still open. Ah, nostalgia.

bizgrrl's picture

the Round Up in South

the Round Up in South Knoxville

No mention of the Round Up because it is still there, not "gone and forgotten".

homesickJimmy's picture

going down memory lane...

thank you one and all for these great memories of retailers and stores and restaurants of our area.....a really nice "trip"...may I add a few...ready ? ...The Jiffy !! various locations around town, West Haven location was "mine", located on Western Ave. across street from the old Cas Walker store..pretty decent hamburger and fries combo in a basket and cokes that really were cokes !! How about the Copper Kettle restaurant & drive-in on Oak Ridge Hwy in West Haven, across street from what is now Shoneys..theres a gas station where C.K. used to be...I go back as far as late 50's and do remember Rich's on Henley St...how about Rexall drug stores ? or Emery 5 & 10 ? Bradley's drug store next to White Stores ? I remember everything you all have mentioned on here except "George's". How about the "Tic-Toc" drive-in on Magnolia ? How about "Earl's"..1221 North Central..thats 1221 North Central..remember how he would repeat the address so much on his commercials ? "See that couch and cheer ? $199.95 just like you see it there...." hahaha... when I was super young, I remember seeing a roller skating rink with a neon sign on top with a winged skate that moved back and forth...this was in Fountain City at that "triangle" area on old Broadway just south of Austins steakhouse...sorry to be long here...thanks again for memories !! Jimmmy

joey's picture

blue circle

You mentioned jiffy best hamburgers on western Ave do you have pics of it and do u remember it being the Ranch House?

MDB's picture

Regas

I am pleased to see that Regas is still in business, though I wasn't happy to see its no longer locally owned, but is part of a chain.

(To be fair, I only ate at Regas once -- my family took me there when I graduated UT.)

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metulj's picture

One of the most

One of the most underwhelming experiences of my life. I was taken there for my first "power lunch" in Knoxville. It definitely reminded me of what some people in Knoxville equate power.

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R. Neal's picture

It's still locally owned by

It's still locally owned by the Conner restaurant group. And there is only one Regas. And actually I believe it's still owned by the Regas family but operated by Conner.

(There was a Regas Riverside Tavern and Regas Westside Tavern but they sold those, don't remember to who, and the Riversade was recently purchased by Ruth's Chis and converted.)

MDB's picture

Oh, Regas is still locally

Oh, Regas is still locally owned? I'm glad to be corrected in that regard.

Is it still considered the best restaurant in Knoxville?

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White Stores/Whiteway --

White Stores/Whiteway -- noted for being a grocery store that wouldn't sell beer, which got them business from religious conservatives. Become Red Food, then Food City.

White Stores didn't really become Red Food. White Stores were bought out by Food City. Red Food was a Chattanooga company and opened its own stores. Red Food was bought by BI-LO. BI-LO then sold its Knoxville area stores to Food City. Some became Food City, others closed.

I remember Food City was the first grocery in Lenoir City to sell beer. Before that it was just the "beer joints" with the drive up windows to get your beer.

I can still taste those "green stamps". That is, until I got wise and started using a sponge to wet them.

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How about the Copper Kettle

How about the Copper Kettle restaurant & drive-in on Oak Ridge Hwy in West Haven

We used to cruise the Copper Kettle when I was in high school but we just called it 'The Pot'. I have been there many times but don't recall ever actually going inside for a meal.

I remember Jimmy Don's black and white '56 Chevy that featured a doorbell he rang as he slowly circled.

Obviously I really enjoyed American Graffiti and Hollywood Knights.


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gone but not forgotten

remembered a few more....best hotdogs in the world, coldest GLASS bottle soda pops, and the loudest police scanner in town could all be found at Petty's Roadside Market on Western Ave (between Texas ave. & Pleasant Ridge rd.), Wheat's Florist, Velda Rose Cleaners.

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Petty's

I agree. Petty's had the best hotdogs. My grandfather and I went there every week (and sometimes more frequently) and ate a hotdog and a "dope" while visiting with Mr. Petty. Those days are truely missed. I so wish Mr. Petty would have shared his hotdog chili secret.

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Petty's Roadside Market

I agree, best hot dogs EVER!! Remember how Mr Petty always had a Police Scanner turned up load behind the counter?

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I meant turned up LOUD..LOL

I meant turned up LOUD..LOL

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Speaking of hot dogs, RIP

Speaking of hot dogs, RIP Smoky Mt. Market.

(And speaking of Velda Rose Cleaners, my Dad bought the one on Chapman Highway and ran it for several years.)

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hot dogs

yep, right there at the intersection at the end of the bridge...do you remember the RC cola man billboard where his head would go from side to side looking at the RC and some other drink in his hands ? hahaha that smile on his face was killer !!!

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RC cola man

I started reading this thread with the sole intention of finding out about the RC Cola sign. When I was kid i thought the man looked for all the world like my dad. I think that is the most nostalgic part of Knoxville. I hate so that it is gone. BTW the other drink advertised on that sign was Diet Rite Cola.

thanks so much for taking me on this memory lane trip.

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Yes he was creepy, and then

Yes he was creepy, and then at Christmas they changed to a Santa.

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Oh, yeah, I had completely

Oh, yeah, I had completely forgotten about the creepy RC Cola man!

(Thankfully, the JFG sign at the end of the other bridge has survived. I think it may be a designated historical landmark or something.)

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JFG sign isn't an official

JFG sign isn't an official landmark, but it is specifically identified in the South Waterfront Plan as something to be saved. Residents were pretty adamant about that.

And Emery's is still very much here. Which reminds me, I need to get over there. No better place in the world to buy stocking stuffers.

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Cola Man Model

I mentioned the RC Cola man to my husband and he tells me Rose Wright's father posed for that picture. He used to live on Oklahoma Ave.

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Handy Dandy

The Handy Dandy market on Emory Road in Powell (just a block or so from Powell High School) had a great deli that made yummy hoagies.

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There was a Handy Dandy...

at the top of the T formed by Cherry Street and Cecil. Lots of mowed lawns were turned into colas and hot dogs in there. I lamented when the Handy Dandy became Doan's Market, but then my grandmother told me that - well before my time - it was Doan's Market before it was a Handy Dandy back in the 1950's and early '60's. Descendants of the original owners, it turns out, had bought the place back.

Anyone mention Peroulas' on Market Square? Loved that place.

I'm sure Harold's has been mentioned dozens of times by now.

The "Pioneer House" still sort of stands out on Alcoa Highway.

There's still a Blue Circle alive and well up in Bristol - I still drop in when I'm up that way.

I can't believe that no one would have mentioned Brother Jack's by now.

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JFG

yep I hope it survives..its the best part of the meal...J. Floyd Goodson would be proud.

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The Fort & the Strip

From the early '70s till the World's Fair the Strip lived up to it's name with bars from one end to the other.

The Pickle U Pub,Foxey Lady & The Cats Meow to name a few..& of course The Last Lap.

Was it..Bradley's Station that was on the present World's Fair Site near the train trussel? That place was WILD!

And the L&N in the old hotel off Western & Broadway.Oh yes..The Torch.

Plus Vic & Bill's is no longer in the Fort..Hey Good Buddy..was the way Bill always greeted you.

Sam & Renee of Sam's Party Store fame & the orginal Falafel Hut have left the Fort also.

Last but not least..Hawkeyes..the home of ANIMAL HOUR!..is gone but not forgotten.

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Was it..Bradley's Station

Was it..Bradley's Station that was on the present World's Fair Site near the train trussel? That place was WILD!

Yes it was.

Those were the days, my friend
We thought they'd never end
We'd sing and dance forever and a day
We'd live the life we'd choose
We'd fight and never lose
For we were young and sure to have our way

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Good Old Strip

Don't forget the Roman Room and the G&H diner. And what about the original Ruby Tuesday's? How about The Place? England's Records? And what were the names of all of those head shops?

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England's Records Ah, had

England's Records

Ah, had forgotten all about them. There was another one, maybe next to the tiny little parking lot next to Kinkos, and I keep wanting to say it was Cat's but it was long before them, and maybe their predecessor. Anyone remember it?

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Raven Records was in the

Raven Records was in the basement of the building at the back of that parking lot in the 80s.

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I had forgotten about Raven,

I had forgotten about Raven, too. But they were later, I believe, and I'm pretty sure it's "School Kids" as noted by FactChecker that I was thinking of.

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strip

yeah Bradley Station was located just east of the train bridge on the north side of cumberland. Awful place, crowded to the max and smelled like piss and vomit as soon as you walked in. Had bands from Atlanta alot of the times, I remember Cowcatcher (w/Tiny) fairly decent band. Also there was a Friday's Child around there somewhere (same kind of bar w/live band). I remember on the south side of the strip there was a bar that had just a drummer playing live with the PA system music. Can't remember the name.

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We used to cruise the Copper

We used to cruise the Copper Kettle when I was in high school but we just called it 'The Pot'. yeah, thats what we called it, too. Did Jimmy Don used to walk alot on Hazelwood Rd. before he got that car ? Did he shoot pool at the rec hall ? over.....

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Jimmy Don rode a Cushman

Jimmy Don rode a Cushman scooter before he got the Chevy. I have no idea about Hazelwood Road.

How I used to want a Cushman when I was a kid. Forget the BB gun, you could put somebody's eye out with one of those things.


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eye patch car salesman

I think it was for Delman Haynes Pontiac.

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make that "Delmar"

Delmar

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I thought it was Twin City

I thought it was Twin City Buick.


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you are correct

it was Twin city. thanks.

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Patch

IIRC the eye patch guy was Gailen (sp?) Porter. If you go back to this summer you'll see where we were discussing his political career.

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porter

Porter is doing ads currently for cogdill dodge on tv, the "eye patch" guy is not Gailen Porter.

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What a great thread!! I

What a great thread!!

I remember the old Oak Terrace restaurant in Oak Ridge that my mom used to take me to.

I usually got one of the small steaks ( it was a round cut) but they also had a atomic burger with mashed potatoes and Gravy. One of the big memories was when the cook could come out with a big plate of biscuits to hand out to everyone with honey to cover em with....

There was also the Back Door Pizza parlor. I remember eating there. I dont remember the pizza being as good as Big Eds, but when I was little my family ate there a lot.

There was a Federal Bakery in the Oak Ridge Shopping area, along with Millers, McCrory's, JC Penny and the JCPenny Anex,
I remember the Federal bakery had really good wedding cookies that were a cookie with some icing in the middle, usually blue or a lite red. They were cheap too, like a dozen for maybe a couple of bucks.

and the Gateway bookstore.

I remember driving there from Wartburg on Sunday morning sometimes as it was the only thing open at all. I just had my driver's license and I could go there on about 2 bucks worth of gas, buy a book and be home before my Mom got up...

Gateway was open early as a lot of folks came in from all over to get the Sunday NY times and Atlanta papers.

I remember the Laughing Monkey hobby shop as the first place I saw Avalon Hill games and such. It was in the main shopping center, but moved to the other side of town going toward k25. I dont remember when it closed, but I just started going to the Yankee Peddler.

Of course, you can tell an old time Oak Ridger, (besides the glowing in the dark part) by how he or she would give directions. If they tell you its past where Frenches used to be, ya know they have been there a long time.

I think Frenches closed in the early 70s.....

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Farragut Hotel/S & W/Birleys/Ramseys/The Rose Hole

My Great Grandparents in the late 50's & early '60's rode the train down from Deleware & stayed @ the Farragut Hotel during Thanksgiving weekend.

They stayed at the Farragut other than the Andrew Johnson because it was closer to Millers where they stocked size 5 shoes that my Greatgrandmother wore.

We always watched the Christmas parade from their hotel room which back then was on the Friday after Thanksgiving.

I will never forget the first time I went to the S & W.My Grandfather took us there..man I thought those steps & the waiters taking your food up the steps was the coolest thing EVER.Wasn't music played on an organ? After we ate we went to see 101 Dalmations @ the Tennessee Theater.

One of the waiters went on to work @ Ramseys until he passed away about 15 years ago...I think his name was Slim?

Before the cafeteria on White under the Shrine Lodge became Ramseys it was Birleys.

My aunt & uncle ate there after church thru out the 60's.Plus my cousins Rehearsal dinner was held there in '65 & my grandmothers 90th birthday party was also celebrated @ Birleys in '75.

I ate at Ramseys till it moved to Central Ave Pike about every day.

And before the Lodge was built the area was a park.Stair Tech played their home games there as well as industrial league softball & UT intramural games.Also my Dad played neighborhood ball games there.

The kids in the 30's dubbed the park..The Rose Hole.

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Before the cafeteria on

Before the cafeteria on White under the Shrine Lodge became Ramseys it was Birleys.

Byerleys. I used to eat there some as a college freshman before I discovered more interesting places on the strip.

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I remember the old Oak

I remember the old Oak Terrace restaurant in Oak Ridge that my mom used to take me to.

I seem to remember that Thursday was 'pork tenderloin night' with gravy and biscuits, or was it Tuesday?

And the entertainment at the Back Door in the seventies. Remember the guy who played banjo as he sat in the rocking chair - rocking out of time?


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Anybody else remember

Anybody else remember Vatican Pizza?

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vatican pizza

I do remember it. Bless us.

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Vatican Pizza was awesome...

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Mountain View Hotel

The Mountain View Hotel in Gatlinburg was a grand place. My parents took me there for my 16 birthday. The hotel has been torn down and replaced by a cheap amusement park that has been closed for years.

La Catania's just off the strip at 17th and Lake Avenue was popular for the students and the downtown business people at lunch.

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The Mountain View

That was the first place I ever came in contact with finger bowls

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Urethra!

...on the south side of the strip there was a bar that had just a drummer playing live with the PA system music. Can't remember the name.

Big Daddy's. (IIRC.)

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Happy Holler

My Dad owned a store on Central from '59 till winter of '62.It was called the Economy Shop.Near the Western Auto.A block or two from Sears.

I recall a service station owned by the Linsey brothers up the street..anybody remember that service station?

Also did Big Jim Hess own a store near there?

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I remember Lindsay's service

I remember Lindsay's service station and Pinky's Barber Shop next door on Baxter Ave.

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correction

ah yes..big Jim Hess..."Nobody, but NOOOOOOOOOO-BODY !! Anyway the correction for the record (who cares ?) is the following: Mike Hatmaker is the guy selling at Jim Cogdill Dodge, not Gailen Porter. Sorry about that. Moving on....I do remember Lindsays service station @ Baxter, and the Merita Bakery down Central a little ways...Merita had a giant clock on top of their sign...a real clock with a face and hands !! Imagine that !! remember shoppers: if it's in stock, we have it " ! (sign seen behind parts counter at the old auto parts store on a hill off of Cherry st. (can't remember their name).

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Merita...

Merita Bakery is sort of the "family business." My father, grandfather, two uncles, a first cousin, and my brother-in-law all work or worked there. The factory moved from the Central St. location to a new, much larger facility in north Knox County. IBC (Interstate Brands Corp) consolidated a few bread factories a decade or so ago and enlarged their Knoxville one.

Btw, this board will be delighted to know Merita is a Union Shop, unlike the old Kern's (now Swann's) bread factory.

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They bake while WE sleep (or something to that effect)

Btw, this board will be delighted to know Merita is a Union Shop, unlike the old Kern's (now Swann's) bread factory.

And they seem to be staying in business better, as Kern seems to be barely hanging on. How could that be, union thuggery and all?

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Don't think the union plays one way or the other...

Dr. Atkins probably came closer to killing Merita than any union issues. IBC really suffered during the peak of his little diet craze. But like anyplace else, the effect the union has on the company depends on the particular local(s) and the management. My grandfather went to work for Merita somewhere around 1947, so there's been someone in my family working there for sixty years or so. There's never, to my knowledge, been a strike, work stoppage, or any serious conflicts at that location. That's not to say there haven't been some "intense" negotiations when contract time comes around or some pretty nasty infighting between the various factions within the union. Union members are especially fond of bitching about the seniority system where long timers get to bump short timers from any job they decide they'd rather be doing or long timers getting first dibs on all the prime vacation weeks. But they do that stuff to themselves.

One great thing about the bread business is that shelf life pretty well rules out any fears of overseas competition.

One great thing about growing up in a family that worked for a bread company was slipping down to the factory on cold winter nights, grabbing an unsliced loaf straight off the conveyors, wrapping it in aluminum foil and taking it home.

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I've been in the Home Depot

I've been in the Home Depot garden center a few times in the summer and wondered how anybody could work day in and day out with that wonderful scent of Merita's baking bread filling the air.


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Well....

the human nose is a funny thing. Sometimes that's good. In this case, it's bad. No one in my family who works for Merita can SMELL the bread anymore unless they've been away for week or so on vacations. It just sort of disappears into the background. Sad but true. Fortunately, I've never worked there and don't have that problem.

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Bread Smell

Anyone remember ths smell of Kerns baking Salt Rising bresd?
What an odor........but the bread was great toasted with blackberry jam.

Dave's picture

ThE national Shirt Shop on

ThE national Shirt Shop on Gay Street

Ron's picture

As a life long Knoxvillian

As a life long Knoxvillian who is now 39 years old, for some reason I cannot get the thought out of my head that back when I was a kid in the early 70's, the Coster Shop Bridge was a suspended green steel bridge that spanned a good 1500-2000 feet around by the paper company on your right as if you were traveling south on I-275. I vaguely remember when the highway department rebuilt that short stretch of 275 around the Coster Shop by demolishing the old road and taking fill dirt from the South-western side of Sharp's Ridge at the gap to fill in where I think the bridge used to be. Can some one please confirm by thoughts about this. I still hear people referring to the Coster Shop Bridge today when they are talking about that part of I-275. Was the Coster Shop bridge a suspended steel bridge originally?

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former stores

I have vague memories of being a child and going to Hills to get free autographed photos of the Dukes of Hazzard boys. Don't think they were there, just think Hills was giving them out. It was a fun junk store to visit. I think Little Sisters is gone now and Adam's Apple, they were fun stores to visit.

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If you're talking about Little Sisters Jewelry...

...last time I looked as I drove down Broadway on my way to a doctor's appointment, she is still there on Walker Boulevard behind Fisher Tire.

There's also a good pizza place there and it's right across from the old Southern Grill location on Broadway which is now a deli...the name escapes me at the moment. There's also a little gift shop in the same little shopping area that has lovely wind chimes and things.

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Stone Mountain

Stone Mountain was a fun store to go to on The Strip, I remember going alot in 89-90. There was also one in Nashville. Oh, and Kotzi's (?)restaurant in Franklin Square and The Silver Spur on Lovell road, both late 80's early 90's and we used to have arcades, I forget the names, there was one in Halls and one on Papermill I liked.

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Little Sisters

Little Sisters is on Walker Blvd, just off Broadway.

Yes I remember the Coster Shop Bridge being actually a bridge. Still think of it as such. Don't pay much attention to the embankment.

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Coster Shop Bridge

So was it an actual bridge that spanned almost the length of the road from Heiskel to Woodland before they tore it down and filled it in and repaved the road?

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Hey Ron...about the Coster Shop bridge...

You are correct on your recollections..it was an old green bridge..over time, a buddy of mine and I watched the tear-down, the excavation on Sharps Ridge, the thousands of dump truck loads of dirt to fill in that small section, and the eventual new road poured throughout the "S" curve...we watched it from his front porch; we had just been laid off from Allied Chemical. Wish I had took some pictures of the progression. To me, that section will always be known as "Coster Shop Bridge", just like Easttown Mall sure as hell ain't "Knoxville Center". -HJ

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Coster Shop Bridge

HJ,

hank you so much! I thought I was going crazy! I thought it used to be a green steal bridge of some kind. As for Allied Chemical, when did you work there? My grandmother, Iva Loveday and my mom Sondra Reagan used to work there also back around the mid 70's to early 80's.

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CS Bridge

Anyone that may have pictures of the old Coster Shop Bridge or of Malcom's Drive-in on Clinton Highway, I would be so greatful if you could share them with me.

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Malcolm's

Used to eat there a lot when I was with my family in Lonsdale.

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Homesick Jimmy

Hey HJ,

Shoot me an email at Ronthehandyman@frontiernet.net

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Does anyone remember Los

Does anyone remember Los Charos (sp?), maybe one of the first 'real' Mexican restaurants in Knoxville? It was located off of Western Ave. near where the Art Museum is and the old House Hanson Hardware Co. Also, what about Rancho Burgers from Taco Rancho that was on Kingston Pk.

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Mexican Restaurant in Fort Sanders

I do remember this restaurant. I ate there a time or two when at UT in the 1970-1975 period. I believe it may have been on Forest Ave near where it intersects with 11th St.

It was probably the first authentic Mexican restaurant I had visited. I do not remember when Taco Bell arrived in Knoxville (Wikipedia says Pepsi purchased Taco Bell in 1978) so I am not sure I had eaten any Mexican (of any kind) before this restaurant -- sorry, I don't recall its name. One thing I remembered eating there was sopaipillas with honey.

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My sweetie and I used to eat

My sweetie and I used to eat there (circa 1978-80). And we always got the closest table to the door we could because he was always afraid a fire was going to break out. But the food was yummy, esp. those sopaipillas.

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Any one remember the Bahou

Any one remember the Bahou in the Fort? Really nice Mediterranean restaurant. With typical K'town irony, The Yardarm tavern was across the street -- one funky/scuzzy delightful bar.
How about the Ice House for another scuz bar?

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Mexican Restaurant in Fort Sanders

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Taco Rauncho

It really wasn't bad food, but that's what we called it. I remember they had really inexpensive big gulp soft drinks.

I think it was replaced by a Black Eyed Pea restaurant, with their 'Meatloaf & Martini' special.

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Blue Circle and Weaver's

When I was growing up in the 70s, my mother would often take me to the Blue Circle chain restaurant on Central near Broadway, I believe. It was a kind of a diner-themed place with little burgers similar to Krystal's. She also took me to Weaver's Cafeteria on North Broadway (we lived in Fountain City, as you might have guessed ;)). Two other places already mentioned that I loved going to were the sandwich shop in Miller's (also a treat to go to because I had an aunt who worked in the home/kitchen department) and Sears on Central.

Odd to believe with all this nostalgia for places serving burgers and the like, I'm a vegetarian, now. ;)

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Do you remember what the

Do you remember what the name of the store was that used tosit to the left of the White Stores on North Broadway directly across from the First Tennessee bank? I remember going there as a kid in the late 70's and buying LP's and 45s and other toys. Seems like there was a shoe store in the same parking lot also. Was it a Greenway store? I can't remember the name of it.

There was also a mexican restraunt up from Shoneys on Clinton Highway that was there befre the Taco Bells came to Knoxville.

I am still looking for pictures of Malcom's Drive in on Clinton Highway. My grandmother used to take me there alot when I was a kid.

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There was a Woolworth's...

next to the White Store with a lunch counter. And Belew's Drugs, and a uniform shop for the nurses up at the hospital (St. Mary's), and a shoe shop...I want to say Coffin's but I know that's not right but it was a locally-owned place...not a chain. There was a ladies' dress shop too, over on the other side was a barber shop, and a Vacuum cleaner sales and repair store, and I think a Dentist office in the two-story section next to the creek. There may have also been a 5 & 10 store...but I can't be for certain on that it may be the Woolworth's that I am thinking of and confusing with a different shopping center. I do know there was definitely a Woolworth's though, it was a real coup of we could talk my grandmom into letting us get an ice cream soda at the lunch counter when she took us shopping at the White Store.

Whoops...just realized you were talking about the White Store in Fountain City...the store next to that one was a Whiteway department store. You could go to the White Store and get your groceries after you went in the Whiteway and got things like dresses or school supplies or fabric (for the sewing crowd) and other items you couldn't usually find in a grocery store in those days.

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Festivals

I was thinking of the World Festival the other day, a fest put on at the World's Fair site in the early 90's, didn't remember who put that on. It was fun, really the only fest in town at the time other than Dogwood.

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WhiteWay

Does anyone remember the old WhiteWay Variety Store that used to be next to the White Store on Broadway in Fountian City? I remember my mom taking me there in the early 70's and buying me records. I think Coffin Shoe Store was next door to it.

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We frequented the WhiteWay

We frequented the WhiteWay on Alcoa Highway near Martha Washington Heights. The same shopping center had a White Store, Rush's Music, a Knox County Library branch, and more. Next door was a drive-in movie theater, a gas/service station, then the pool (as we called it), C'est Bon, Senators Club, and now Court South. Across the highway was Comer's Drug Store, which had a great lunch counter.

Luckily, that area of Alcoa Hwy. still has Food City and CVS.

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The Senators Club

The building where the Senators Club was (now Court South) became Uncle Sam's.

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Casa Gallardo

I remember my dad taking me to Casa Gallardo on Bearden Hill where Calhoun's sits today. I also loved to eat at McGuffy's down on Kingston Pike in the shopping center where the dollar movie theatre is.( Except now it is not a dollar anymore. It is something like $4.00 now days.

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Funny you should mention

Funny you should mention Casa Gallardo. I recently found this among my old slides. It was shot the first time I ate there.

Casa Gallardo Candid


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Casa Gallardo

Thank you so much for the picture! That brings back fond memories. I glanced at your website. You've got some very cool pictures. I am going to take a look at it more in depth when time permits. Thank you again. Ron Reagan

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I spent WAY too many drunken

I spent WAY too many drunken happy hours there in the late 80s.

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Off topic but your picture

Off topic but your picture has great quality..did you scan it?

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Casa Gallardo

Am I crazy, or did Casa Gallardo build the building in Downtown West that is now Pelanchos? Or was it Garcias?

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Not sure about a building in

Not sure about a building in Downtown West. My photo was made in the Casa Gallardo atop Bearden Hill, the present site of Calhoun's.

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That was originally a Don

That was originally a Don Pablo's, I think.

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Thanks for the nice

Thanks for the nice compliment. We never tire of boring our visitors with pictures here at The Home.


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I remember getting my first

I remember getting my first prom dress at Nancy Lynn's. Does anyone remember the old Diana Shop in the Broadway Shopping Center in North Knoxville? And yes, the back to school shopping trips to Miller's on Henley Street with lunch at the counter followed by those rich brownies from the bakery on the main floor. As a young child, I also remember getting clothes at the Brother and Sister Store ( or something like that) in North Knoxvillle. Does anyone remember watching the ladies at the cosmetic counter create custom blended face powder?

Yummm, Tic Toc onion rings, Smoky Mountain Market hot dogs, Brother Jacks BBQ Ribs and moonshine (if you knew the password), Sam and Andy's deli sandwiches, the Southern Grill on Broadway, biscuits and gravy at Ruby's Coffee Shop in East Knoxville, lunch at the S&W Cafeteria on Gay Street, the Woolworth's lunch counter, Sonner's Drugs on Asheville Hwy. had the best cherry smashes and the Varsity Inn on the strip for burgers. Loved going to JC Penney downtown and watching the elevator operators. Loved to play pinball at Yosemite Sam's on the strip when I was in college. My favorite store in Gatlinburg was the Rebel Corner and you always had to eat at the Dog n Suds and Howard's and play miniature golf at the Jolly Golf and throw some pennies into the old wishing well.

Those were the days, my friends. May they live in our hearts forever.

bizgrrl's picture

What a great list. I

What a great list. I recognized about half of the stores.

I'll add Lerners (I believe) on Gay Street, where I obtained my first credit card in my name only.

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Mayos

I remember Lerners near Gay & Wall and Baker shoes was next door.

My favorite downtown store was Mayos on Wall, I'd buy plants for my dorm room and schlep them "home" over the Clinch ave bridge.

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I believer the record store

I believer the record store you are referring to in Fountain City was called RECORDS N THINGS & sat in the strip mall directly across from what used to be Target department store on N. Broadway. They actually took out an ad in my 1991 Halls High School year book. Cute cashiers. I also remember buying records there back when i used to collect them. I too remember the Blue Circle on Broadway. Anyone recall DAN'S BIG BURGERS in Fountain City?

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Bahou

I do remember the Bahou, it was my favorite place for Dates. Later on when we got cars we'd go to the Bahou Container in Bearden.

Ah yes I remember the Head Stores. I was at UT from 72 to 74 so that was their heyday. The Oddysey was the mainstay, then a couple others. Mary Jane's had a short lived existence on a side street going towards Lake Ave.

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Also Skoolkids Records.

Also Skoolkids Records. There was a hi-fi shop nearby for a time, Hi Fi Heaven, I think. They had the weird early Phase Linear speaker designed by Bob Carver. The manager or owner was a nice guy. Treated me to an awesome demo of the Infinity QLS when they merged with England Sound, after the first building suffered a fire. This was around '75.

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Skoolkids Records That's the

Skoolkids Records

That's the one I was trying to think of.

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More music

Can't forget Miles Music and the great hardware store next door (Green's?) down where Gay St. and Magnolia come together. Miles had been around since the early 20th century and maybe before. There was a picture in the window from the early 20's of the "Miles Music Mandolin Orchestra" which was also shown in an early Gibson Guitar and Mandolin catalog--"Every one a Gibsonite." They carried everything. I needed a banjo bridge one day, and the only ones they had were circa 1890s S.S. Stewart bridges, still marked .10 each in pencil from the era, and still sold at the same price. I needed a neck for a C Melody saxophone once. They had one in the attic. It was also a great place to buy electric sitars and the like...There was also Hewgley's on Henley St, but it could never compare to Miles.

Green's (if I got that name right) still had the floor to ceiling cabinets full of drawers which contained most of their stock. Like Miles, much of their stock was left over from an earlier era. I found new old stock Yankee push drill bits there one day, still at the original price. I think about them whenever I'm in a Home Depot or Lowe's today.

These businesses fell victim to the Worlds Fair, and I often wonder where their remaining stock ended up. It was a sad end to a long long era...

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Greens

Green's (if I got that name right) still had the floor to ceiling cabinets full of drawers which contained most of their stock. Like Miles, much of their stock was left over from an earlier era. I found new old stock Yankee push drill bits there one day, still at the original price. I think about them whenever I'm in a Home Depot or Lowe's today.

My best friend in elementary school lived next door to Mr and Mrs Green. they had this wonderful old house that had a huge front porch. I had almost forgotten about that. thanks again!

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Magnolia Ave. & the Magnolia Trees that grew down the center

I need help desperately. I'm from Knoxville and I miss home desparately. My mom and dad have always told us about how and where they met and this is a cut down version: In 1964 they said the thing to do was to get in the car and meet your friends at either the Tic Toc or the Blue Circle and at some point you go to the other and see who was out and doing what, etc... kinda like "Happy Days".

Mom and Dad both were born in Knoxville and grew up there (they were lucky); anyway, they said Magnolia Avenue had magnolia trees growing down the center of the street and it was beautiful.

I'm looking for pictures of the Blue Circle and Tic Toc at the height of the time, around 1964 and Magnolia Avneue with the trees, so if anyone has any pictures showing these places I would gladly pay for reprints of them.

Please contact me ASAP this is for their 50th anniversary party.

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Can't say I remember

Can't say I remember Magnolia trees down the center of Magnolia Avenue.

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Can't say I remember

Can't say I remember Magnolia trees down the center of Magnolia Avenue.

Isn't there still a grassy median strip with trees on Magnolia in front of Chilhowee Park? It shows in Google street-view, but I'm not tech-savvy enough to post a workable link.

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I don't remember them either

When I was a kid, way before the interstate highways, we used to visit my grandparents in Newport every seventh weekend and Magnolia Avenue / Asheville Highway was our normal route. We always stopped on 5th Avenue behind the Swan's Bakery to pick up Mom's sister who didn't drive and always went with us. When I started driving in 1962, high school friends and I used to eat at the Pizza Palace pretty often.

I don't remember ever seeing Magnolias in the center of Magnolia Avenue. The time I'm thinking of is early 1950s until late 1964.

Maybe back in the early days when Chilhowee Park was described as 'an outing resort three miles from Knoxville' and was called Lake Ottosee (spelled 'Ottossaee' in this 1896 article).


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I agree with you about the

I agree with you about the Magnolia's. I do remember a few lined the side of Magnolia Ave during the same time period, but most had been cut years ago. I remember when the city cut the remaining Magnolias. The city went along several main streets and cut all the trees to give the businesses better exposure.

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A&P Supermarkets. Babe Maloy's Drive-In Restaurant

Here's remembering three supermarkets from the A&P chain. Also, Babe Maloy's Drive-In Restaurant.

A&P Supermarkets
The abbreviation "A&P" stands for the Great Atlantic and Pacific Tea Company. Wikipedia has an informative article on the rise and fall of the A&P chain. A&P's network shrank drastically over the years, but it still exists, mostly in and around New Jersey.

A&P
3617 Chapman Highway

Our family shopped at this A&P in the 1950's, and it may have been the first A&P in South Knoxville.

Located on the west side of Chapman Highway in the stretch between Martin Mill Pike and Moody Avenue, directly across from Berry Funeral Home. Now vacant, the location is white with a green awning and sits at the south end of a group of storefronts. At that end, it is just north of the big, white Parkway Restaurant, across a driveway between the two buildings. The street number 3617 is on the door.

A&P
4217-4219 Chapman Highway

That store likely was built in the 1970's. The building's roof still sports A&P's trademark decoration – a white colonial-style cupola with weather vane.

Located on the west side of Chapman Highway in the stretch between Moody Avenue and Young High Pike, directly across from Advance Auto Parts. Now occupied by a Dollar General Store and a Goodwill Store.

A&P
4416 Asheville Highway

Current U.S. Representative John "Jimmy" Duncan bagged groceries at this A&P as a stock clerk in the mid-1960's. Many Holston High graduates were eye witnesses.

Likely built in the 1960's and now demolished, it occupied the south portion of the lot and faced north toward Asheville Highway. The parcel of land is now occupied by a Kroger store assigned the street number 4414. The Kroger sits on the west portion of the lot and faces east towards Burns Road.

Babe Maloy's Drive-In Restaurant
3810 Chapman Highway

Operating around 1955-1970, Babe Maloy's Drive-In was famous for its chipped ham sandwiches. Even after our family moved across town, we still drove there occasionally to chow down on those great sandwiches.

Located on the east Side of Chapman Highway in the stretch between Martin Mill Pike and Moody Avenue, across from M&M House of Brakes and Mufflers. Now demolished, the restaurant was first replaced by a Burger King, then a new white building at 3810. That new building first housed a CVS Pharmacy, then Kick Shots Sports Bar. It is currently vacant, and the street number is on the door.

Babe Maloy's and the sandwiches have been celebrated by News Sentinel columnist Barbara Asbury in columns dated 7/9/08, 7/16/08, 7/23/08, 7/30/08, 9/10/08, 2/25/09, 3/25/09. Barbara's columns for 7/23/08 and 7/30/08 recall the personalities and "teen cruising scene" at the drive-in. The other columns describe nostalgia buffs' recent efforts at duplicating the sandwich recipe and serving them at parties.

As of this date, the columns are still retrievable on the News Sentinel's search engine, using the key word "Maloy." To catch all the articles, be sure to click on "Next page" at the bottom of the search results list.

For nostalgia buffs with a taste for detective work, old phone books in the McClung Collection are a gold mine for listings of businesses "gone but not forgotten." As Barbara Asbury's 7/23/08 column on the Babe Maloy site demonstrates, the old City Directories are, too.

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It was converted from a

It was converted from a Kodachrome slide using a Nikon slide holder attachment mounted onto the lens of my first digital camera, a Nikon E950. I recently loaned it along with my old E990 to a friend (who works for Nikon) so he could convert roughly a thousand slides. He was going to see if they offered a similar unit for their newer cameras.

It has the capability of holding either slides or strips of 35 mm negatives and sold for less than $100 back in 2000. I can't find anything like it in their catalog now. They would probably prefer to sell you a $700 slide scanner.

I think the original was shot with an Olympus OM-1 or possibly my OM-2.


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A couple of other retailers

A couple of other retailers that I haven't seen mentioned - Nancy Lynn Fashions and Paul Parrott Shoes. They were in the White Stores Shopping Center on Asheville Highway. Also, there was a Tucker's Record Shop on Market Square Mall.

Two restaurants that came along later, that are now gone, are Darryls and Fiesta Cantina. I think I went to Darryls for every first date that I went on.

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"Two restaurants that came along later, that are now gone, are Darryls and Fiesta Cantina. I think I went to Darryls for every first date that I went on."

Where was Darryls?

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Bearden hill.

Bearden hill.

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Bearden hill. Knoxville's

Bearden hill.

Knoxville's restaurant Death Row?

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"Bearden hill."

Where the health food store is now?

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Merchant's

Also used to be a Darryl's on Merchants where Quaker Steak and Lube is now.

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No. A few doors down.

No. A few doors down.

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Darryl's 1879

Darryl's was on the site where the shopping center with Bonefish Grill now sits. It was named "1879" because that was the year that the University of Tennessee was founded. All the Darryl's that were located near college campuses took the "number" part of their name from the year the college was founded. Featured a London bus and a fire engine in the bar area. For a period in the early 80s, Darryl's was a very popular hangout, especially late nights and with the fraternity crowd because they offered such low beer prices. I can remember many times on ball game weekends when the bar area was literally shoulder to shoulder.

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Cas Walker BBQ Chicken and Kress's Corn Sticks /Cole Slaw Recipe

I grew up in Knoxville. One of my pleasant childhood memories is trips to downtown with my mother. We almost always ate lunch at either the Blue Circle or at Kress's lunch counter. I especially liked their cornbread sticks and cole slaw. I also recall the BBQ chicken from Cas Walker's as being different and very good.

Does anyone have the original recipes for any of these? If so, would you share?

Thank you in advance.

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Kress's cornbread sticks and cole slaw recipe

P.S. Unfortunately, my prior post was unclear. I was referring to the cornbread sticks and cole slaw at Kress's lunch counter.

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I loved Kress Turkey Dressing

I loved Kress Turkey Dressing and gravy.

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Sharps Drug Store

I'm looking for any pictures or older discription of Sharps Drugs at the corner of Edgewood and N.Broadway in Knoxville. I do know that it is a music store now. My brother wants to make a drawing of it to put in a book.
Thanks

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dance clubs/bars: Desperados,

dance clubs/bars: Desperados, Tony's VIP, The Beach, Ivy's, The Last Lap.

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Desperado's

Before it became Desperado's, the building at the intersection of Papermill and Weisgarber housed a bar called Smuggler's Inn. It was a combination disco/tiki bar. I remember having many Singapore Slings there as an 18 year old (which was the legal drinking age at the time).

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Little Tunnel Inn and Swan's Resturant and White Stores

Does anyone remember the Little Tunnel Inn...?
I think it was NE of Knoxville near Tazewell. I wish I knew more about it, as it seemed special to them.
My Mom and Pop used to take me there and to Swan's, and I remember those huge old millstones in the grass around the resturant.
My Pop was a Manager for White Stores in Morristown for over 40 years, and the McDonald family in Knoxville owned the company with some stock held by employees. Old man McDonald would not even sell cigarettes, but his son Dwight took over and started, but he always declined to sell alcohol... they were ahead of their time 'eh.
Thank Y'all for reading... I LOVE this thread...

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Some others that haven't been mentioned...

Pero's in the Bearden area.

A variety of businesses in Bearden Center beside White Store and Whiteway...Henderson's Drug Store, Crenshaw's Children's Shop, Wade's Bakery, the S&H Green stamp store.

Western Plaza's businesses...Hall Brown at the corner, Gateway Books, Cole's Rexall Drugs, Woolworth's, A&P, Kroger, the Western Plaza Bowling Alley.

Forest Avenue and Kingston Pike...L. B. Richardson's Esso, Parker Brothers, Knoxville Drive-In, Vester Florist.

Weigel's drive-up Jug-O-Milk stores.

Park Bank at the corner of Northshore and Kingston Pike, across from the Howard Johnson's restaurant.

Ivanhoe's House of Beef on Kingston Pike were the Copper Cellar is now.

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Steven's Drugstore and other places

Anyone remember Steven's Drugstore on Broadway in Fountain City and Seaver's Doughnuts just down the street? We had to sell those doughnuts for fundraisers when I was in elementary school.

No one's mentioned the Toddle House on Broadway in North Knoxville(Where a Krystal is now.) You could sit at the counter and watch them cook your breakfast and tell them when they had the bacon cooked just right. Had great waffles too. And across the street was Edith's Variety store.

Enjoying reading these postings. Brings back a lot of memories!

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Kay's Ice Cream

Most are gone but one still remains in the Knoxville area and that is Kay's Ice Cream on Chapman Hwy. The Big Kay is the best drug store hamburger around. I stop there every so often and get me one with some fries.

And for all you West Lonsdale people, Swann's grocery store on Carnation Drive next to West Lonsdale Baptist Church. Mrs. Swann was always so sweet but Mr. Swann was a crusty old codger. He had no patience with us kids when we went in there and took ten minutes trying pick out as many different kinds of candy that we could with a quarter from that old antique display case! At two and three cents each you could get quite a bit of candy.

Also Bradley's Drug Store in the West Haven Shopping Center was one place I remember eating at their old fashioned drug store restaurant in the back.

I miss Petty's Roadside Market and Blue Circle on Western Ave. Going there are some of my oldest memories.

Anybody remember what the name of that donut place was at the corner of Pleasant Ridge Rd and Wester Ave?

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Kay's also had...

...the best lemon ice cream I have ever eaten in my entire life.

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Was it Richy Cream?

Was it Richy Cream?

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A few more... The old

A few more...

The old Lawson-McGhee Library on Market Street
The Bookmobile
Brookside Mills became Zayre's
Zayre's used to have Sqaure Dances in the Parking Lot on Saturday night
Shakey's Pizza Parlor - remember the sing-a-longs?
The Family Drive-In on Broadway
The Western Auto on N. Central
Hull-Dobbs Ford on N. Central
Beaty Chevrolet on Broadway
The Fifth Ave. Motel
Graning Paint Store Broadway and Depot
The Athletic House on State Street
The Pink Pony
Pat & Libs on Asheville Hwy.
The Village Barn on Asheville Hwy.

Cormac McCarth would not like it if we omit...
The Indian Rock on Rutledge Pike
The Huddle on Cumberland Ave.
Comers Pool Hall on Gay Street

And who could ever forget...
The Market House

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Surprised nobody mentioned

Surprised nobody mentioned this one:

(link...)

(Not technically a retailer, I guess, but still...)

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praise allah

You know you can still buy this. It is under the name Tiger Seasoning and most Kroger's in Knoxville carry it. I know the one in Knox Plaza does and the new one in Fountain City.

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One More Missing From The List

Remember Graystone Presbyterian Church at the corner of Chapman Highway and Blount Avenue, across the street from Baptist Hospital? I think there was a Park Bank next to it. And during the holidays, they would put a Santa face on the RC Cola sign on Blount that was mentioned previously.

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Remember Graystone

Remember Graystone Presbyterian Church at the corner of Chapman Highway and Blount Avenue, across the street from Baptist Hospital? I think there was a Park Bank next to it.

I'm pretty sure you have your locations wrong. At least as far back as I remember, 1967 or so, Graystone Presbyterian Church was on Woodlawn, near the corner or Woodlawn and Chapman Hwy. I believe the Park Bank was on the same side of the road, just down a block or less. I'm pretty sure that is where we obtained our first auto loan.

I attended Girl Scout meetings there once upon a time. The minister/pastor/preacher/whatever there performed our wedding ceremony, not at the church.

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You don't go back far enough.

You don't go back far enough. Graystone Presbyterian Church was indeed on the corner of Blount Ave. and Chapman Hwy. It was moved to the Woodlawn Pike location and replaced by a Holiday Inn. Baptist Hospital bought the building many years later.

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Classy Fort Sanders nightspot

I'm surprised that there has been no mention of Gryphon's Bar & Laundromat. A wonderful music venue (Torture Kitty) and restaurant (Bowl of Food - $1.50).

I still have my Gryphon's Ghetto Guild shirt which I bought to support the softball team.

It was a first class club in my opinion, although I once heard about someone smoking a joint out back.

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Wow. I don't think I ever

Wow. I don't think I ever knew that Praise Allah was made here in town! It was the universal secret ingredient at Ruby Tuesday in the mid-70s, at least on steaks and burgers. And the not-so-secret ingredient in PA was MSG.

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Wow! Just discovered this

Wow! Just discovered this great thread. I came to Knoxville in 1980 as a UT student and lived in the area through 1988 (both bachelor's and master's degrees, with a year off between them).

I used to take a lot of first dates to The Roman Room, including my future wife in 1988. Sam and Andy's, Vic and Bill's...Hawkeye's Corner...

Yankee Peddler opened a store on Cumberland in the early to mid-80's with lots of board games and role playing stuff. It closed but they kept the Farragut shop open well into the 90's, as I recall.

Also of interest would be live music clubs that used to exist on Cumberland back in the 80's, like The Place, The Buttonwood Cafe, Hobo's, Ivy's, and Vic and Bill's (after the move to Cumberland, in the back room behind the deli). Alternative Rock bands like R.E.M. could be seen at Hobo's back in 1982, well before their first album and later stardom...

Kind of sad to drive down Cumberland these days...mostly taken over by large chains...

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I was at the R.E.M. and Stray

I was at the R.E.M. and Stray Cats concerts as well! Quote of the eighties was from Slim Jim Phantom, the Stray Cats drummer, at their post concert party-

Unnamed girl, "I'm a junior."

Slim Jim," Whoa, So you're like twenty six or twenty seven, right?"

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Levi Strauss Plant - Cherry Street

Many jobs were lost when the plant was shut down. As well as the plant in Johnson City.

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My mother retired from the

My mother retired from the Cherry Street Levi Strauss plant just a few years before they closed. She had been a Rosie the Riveter type, operating an overhead crane in the North Plant at Alcoa when she met my dad during the war. She quit her job when they married in '44 and stayed out of the workforce until Dad died in 1975.

To make ends meet she went back to work after all those years becoming a belt loop maker for Levi's. The interior of her automobile was blue with denim lint and I always wondered what it did for her lungs.

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Green's

Is green's the hardware store that was across from Regas?

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Green's

Yes that is correct. It was across the street from Regas

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Ollie's Trolley

Ollies Trolley on the Strip had the best burgers and cold beer.

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Green's

I remember those floor to ceiling hardware bins. Considering how tall the ceilings were, they were a sight to behold.

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Mama Kern's Fill 'er Up and a keep on a truckin' Cafe...

Speaking of Kern's Bakery - Does any one remember the series of commercials featuring a truck driver and truck stop waitress fem fatale Mavis? ...yeah, Kern's is good buns.

also,

Night club "Confetti'

Ali Baba's Time Out Deli (Can't remember how many times snuck off the Bearden HS grounds for a killer kabab).

Rooster's with smoked cheddar at Smokey Mountain Market

Arnold's Deli on the Strip

and the golden age of concerts... Journey, Van Halen (soooo cool to hear DLR is coming back), Boston, Doobie Bros, Dire Straits, Heart , John Cougar (back before Melencamp), so many others...

And forgive me - I haven't been back to K-town since I joined the Army back in 1985... is Brother Jack's still there?

...and what was the head shop on the Strip called?

Wow, all such a long time ago?

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Ali Baba's is still there and

Ali Baba's is still there and nothings changed except hair color.

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Ain't it the truth...

Ain't it the truth...

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Talking About Changes

I hope they no longer sit diapered babies on the counter where they prepare sandwiches. Fortunately, there appeared to be no need for an immediate change although there could have been a recent change.

For the record, I witnessed that many years ago.

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The head shop on the Strip

Odessey.

It popped in my head clear as a bell. Must have been a flashback.

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Pre-Western Plaza

I can remember before the days of Western Plaza - Sonner's Drug Store and Ray's Fruit Market.

In the 50's, farther down Kingston Pike, there was the Pike Theater. Also Henslee's where we LOVED the hamburgers and milk shakes. In high school days we cruised Dixieland Drive-In.

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was the Pike the little

was the Pike the little theater next to the Capri? read this interesting description of it.

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Park Bank

I distinctly remember a Park Bank located across Blount Avenue from Baptist Hospital. I banked there and got my first auto loan -- for a 1969 VW Beetle. Its color was Peru Green. That car sure was a reliable little puddle-jumper.

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I know this is not really a

I know this is not really a retailer but does anyone remember the Wintergarden Food Co at the corner of Broadway and Washington Pike, the Post Office sits there now. I can just vaguely remember the building. I used to live about five houses up the street on Washington Pike, we moved away from there when I was 3 yrs old. I can find nothing online about this place.

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A friend and I were looking

The Copper Kettle

A friend and I were looking through my 1962 Karns High yearbook and found this photo of 'The Pot' on Western Avenue right across the street from where Shoney's is today.

This was the place to be seen on Friday and Saturday nights, baby.

Click the photo for larger sizes.

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Just found this photo of the

Norma Jean and Jim Brown

Just found this photo of the 'Good Gulf' station on Magnolia Avenue next to the White Store. My friend Gina's late mom and dad (pictured) met when he worked there.

Oh, to own that '55 Chevy now.

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Flanigan's Swensen's Ice

Flanigan's
Swensen's Ice Cream in Down Town West
Brunswick Billiards for that matter, as well. Is that still there? I know it dropped the "Brunswick" half of the name in the '90s.
Mark's Deli in West Town Mall, as well as Orange Julius.
The West Town Mall movie theatre.
Lindsay Ward THE Electronics Store
Children's Palace
Phar Mor (granted, the whole company went bankrupt, but still, I loved it).
The original diner that was down in Old City in the early '90s that was later acquired by Chops and went downhill.
World Bazaar in West Town Mall
Showbiz Pizza Place
Turtle's Music

I was born in '72, so my memories are a mix of older stuff and newer fare. I still get the "Shop West Town Mall!" jingle in my head with those three birds flying into a circle in my head at time.

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The theater at West Town Mall

The theater at West Town Mall you say?

Here you are ca. 1978.

West Town Mall

Click the image to go to its Flickr page. Right-click that image and select 'original' for the biggie.

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The second building up

On the right hand side of the picture was the A&P.

A longtime friend who I will see this weekend at the funeral of another longtime friend's mother once made the joke, "I used to go to the A&P, but now I go WEEEEEEOOOOOO! " (You have to remember the ad campaign to get it.) Ed's mom wasn't notorious for her sense of humor, and I remember being shocked, floored and wiped out laughing at the off-the-wall, unexpected joke. I love this town and I love the people that have made it home for me.

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I saw "Alien" at that theater.

I watched the entire second half through my fingers.

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I still remember...

...the first time I had enough money (I had earned it at the World's Fair) to go Miller's and buy a hat.

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Malcolms Drive In

Anyone remember the bug catcher / vacuum that hung from the ceiling of the walkway at the drive in portion at Malcolms at Clinton Hwy? We use to guess how many pounds of dead bugs were in the large collector sack hanging off the back of the machine while enjoying our gut bombs. I always guessed around 45lbs. Those were da dazes....

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My few memories of Malcolm's

My few memories of Malcolm's Dairyland on Clinton Highway include a car hop named Loretta but the bug catcher escapes me.

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You can find some at

You can find some at Knoxville is Dying.

Sister site: Knoxville is alive

I haven't really gotten the ball rolling on these yet.

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Weaver's Cafeteria

My first job at 16 was at Phil Weaver's Cafeteria on Magnolia. Memories.... I wish I could remember ingredients in one of the pies they served on the dessert line. It was a cream pie with nuts and raisins I believe? Does anyone remember it? I would love to find Anthony Weaver, Phil's son. Does anyone know him?

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Krispy Kreme Donuts

I know we can still get those hot donuts, but do you remember when they were on Magnolia? My family would go about once per week, a real thrill.

Horne Theater on Chapman Hwy before you get to Young High Pike.

Young High School turned into the Kroger Shopping Center. The school stood empty for awhile. I hated to see it go, but was happy that the place was turned into an opportunity for jobs. Still a busy place.

There was a drive in theater on Chapman. I think it was on the lot where the old Wal-mart sits.

Hamburgers and fries still great at Kay's Ice Cream Store on Chapman.

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west haven drug store, western avenue, knoxvilld

does anyone remember when the west haven drug store closed

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Had?

Food City (I keep wanting to say White Stores) still sells Kay's Lemon Custard ice cream.

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Really?

I'll have to check it out. Thanks.

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Always messing with stuff to boost profits

That's part of Food City's marketing move to sell several local brands popular from way back. Can't remember the others, since I don't shop there. Lays or Selecto meats, maybe, and a white bread product?

Anyway, I wouldn't bet they're anything like the originals other than the brand names they licensed for the packaging. I'd be interested to hear whether that's true, though. Just my guess based on the way modern business works. Even the ingredient labels on Mayfield's ice cream are looking scary these days. Breyer's ice cream is no longer just the 3 or 4 essential ingredients either.

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I buy the 5 quart Kay's Fudge

I buy the 5 quart Kay's Fudge Swirl and the number one ingredient on the label is cream, something you don't see on a lot of ice cream labels now days.

And the Lemon Custard tastes as good to me as it did when I was a kid. On the other hand, a Krystal gut bomb has either changed radically or my taste buds have. The little sliders at Scotties are what a Krystal is supposed to be.

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OK, then. Glad to be wrong

OK, then. Glad to be wrong there. I'm not surprised Greestals have changed. Haven't had one in over 15 yrs, but I have really fond memories of the ones I used to get at the bar diner they had on Gay.

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Jimmie's Esso

My grandfather, James Gates, was on the corner of Young High Pike and Chapman for over 40 years. Does anyone remember Jimmie's Esso Station and later Jimmie's Servicenter?

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Kress' Corn Sticks

One of my oldest and fondest memories is of my Grandmother taking the grandiose "to Town" on Saturday's for a matinee at the Tennessee or Riviera Theatres and to Kress' lunch counter for lunch. She would always order a vegetable plate with corn sticks.

Also, there was Broadway Shopping Center's Smith's Card Shop, and Woolworth's. I have an aunt who still teases me about my saying, when I was at most 3 years old,, that in heaven you got to eat at Woolworth's every day. Oh, also, Wade's bakery! Just the wonderful aroma added about 5 lbs from just walking past. Every birthday cake came from Wade's, none better then or now.

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Wade's Bakery sounds

Wade's Bakery sounds familiar. I love the image of gaining 5 lbs just walking by.

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Er...

I hate auto spell my grandmother took the GRAND KIDS..... (see above)

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Wade's Bakery did a fine

Wade's Bakery did a fine chocolate eclair too.

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Jimmies

Syoung, I have a faint recollection of getting work done at a Jimmie's servicecenter but the location I associate with it would be across from the current Subway. Did he ever move? What year did he close the business?

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I vaguely remember an auto

I vaguely remember an auto service center at the corner of Chapman and Stone Road years ago. My Mother went there for whatever when we lived on Sarvis.

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Jimmies

He was on the corner of Chapman and Young High Pike and then sold to the gas station currently there and built back behind it. In fact, the building is for sale.
He was on that corner for years and would tell stories of Young High school kids coming over to get snacks out of his machines after school.

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Furniture Store

What was the name of the furniture store that was near Louis on Old Broadway? Green/white building, I think it started with an E...

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Jimmies

I vaguely remember Jimmies. Do you remember the Savon on the corner of Chapman Highway and Moody Ave?

I used to live behind Young High School (Nicholson Ave.) as a child in the 60's

And there was nothing like a Smoky Mountain Hotdog! Oh how I loved those things!

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I'm surprised, but I can't

I'm surprised, but I can't hardly remember anything at the corner of Chapman Hwy and Moody from the old days. The only thing I can really remember is Kroger used to be in that shopping center up the hill. I'm pretty sure I know why I can't remember such things.

And there was nothing like a Smoky Mountain Hotdog!

Smoky Mountain hotdogs were great. I'm also pretty sure I know why I can remember the hotdogs.

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Do you remember the Emery 5 &

Do you remember the Emery 5 & 10 store? I believe it was next to the Kroger. My grandparents lived on Moody, right across the street from South High School.

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Yes, the Emery 5 & 10 is

Yes, the Emery 5 & 10 is still there. It may be in a different building but it is still near the same corner.

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Kroger

Kroger was where Big lots is now. There was a drugstore beside it.

There was the Hilltop motel where Walgreens is now. They really flattened the hill for Walgreens.

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ETO

Earth Traverse Outfitters had great bikes. ETO had camping gear. Now, they are gone.

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ETO

That's too bad. I bought a jacket there and an air mattress there. I never heard of the owner denigrating overweight people (unlike a nearby outfitter). At least there's still Mast General store and Blue Ridge mountain sports.

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The "T" Room

I can recall entering University of Tennessee in the fall of 1965. I lived in Hess Hall (which at that time was for men only). Many evenings we walked from Hess down by the Kappa Sigma house up to Cumberland to The "T" Room. One of the favorite entrees was a t-bone steak and fries for $1.35. Yes, the price was $1.35. The steak wasn't very thick, but the taste was good and the fries were great. I missed The "T" Room when it closed. I can recall The "T" Room being busy every evening. What a place to take a girl for dinner when you had no car. I would love to go eat there just one more time.

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Old businesses

Always loved going to Copper Kettle drive in when I was little. Loved their corndogs. Also Nan Denton's drive in on Magnolia. Loved their orange julius's & DIP dogs. NOT corn dogs but made with pancake batter instead of cornmeal. Denton's on Kingston pike has the julius down but no one ever has dip dogs. My husband makes them for me at home! Wade's bakey was the BEST bakery ever. Loved their chocolate hamburgers & cream horns. My mom & I talked about those cream horns for years then we found a place in Seymour called The Bakery Lady who had cream horns just like Wades. It's on Boyd's creek just past the Seymour schools. Edith's Variety store on Broadway. IR Cheap that replaced Whiteway. And no one has mentioned Almart on Merchants rd. thats where my mom worked. Then it became Jefferson- Ward & Montgomery-Ward. First job I had was at Weaver's Cafeteria on Papermill, then I went to Kress's on Gay street. Their restaurant downstairs was the best.

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Deitch's Department Store

Small department store first on Market Square from 1929-1955 then moved into the bus terminal building on Gay Street for about 2 years. Two brothers owned the store...Gus & Ben Deitch. Ben lived at the St. James Hotel on Commerce St.
Georgia was the elevator driver. Margaret Harper and Katherine Nelson ran the office. Other employees were Jessie White Lide, Thelma Harper Parker, Theodore Frazier (the porter), Hazel Smith (Smithy) hosiery section, Marcella Pudom,
lingerie, Eva Bailes, Reba Routh, children's,Sadie Snograss, Doris & Dot Crawford (twins that worked there), and a host of other professional sales people that were great. Gus Deitch had a heart attack in the barber chair the summer of 56 and store was closed as brother Ben did not want to run it alone.
Another brother,Nathan, had died several years early,

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Bookstore.

A little later than most of these places, But how about Waldenbooks?

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Big Dons Elegant

Big Dons Elegant Junk!!!
Dolph Browns Fish and Chips in Norwood.

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Oh and Emery 5 & 10!

Oh and Emery 5 & 10!

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Tic Toc Barbecue The Dwarf

Tic Toc Barbecue
The Dwarf restaurant on Clinton Highway

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Shoney's drive-in on

Shoney's drive-in on Broadway
Chubby's cafeteria on Broadway
The cafe in the back of K-mart
A&W root beer on Broadway
Putt putt on Broadway (where Pizza Hut was later)

The restaurant side of Stephens Drug Store in Fountain City, with the cool "catwalk" design counter, and the old cloth pull and roll hand dryer in the bathroom, plus the old brown murals on the walls...

The original Big Dons in a weird part of North Knoxville (near Lonsdale?), with a mummified child (family member? in fancy dress?) in a case

Trixie's and Helma's - meat and threes, on Chapman Hwy and Asheville Hwy

Time Out deli in Fountain City

The Factory - gay club on 17th st that was some kind of textile outlet before that. Closed when the Carousel opened.

Xanadu - gay club on Gay St in the 70's

The drive through farmers market near the interstate and 17th st

Hazel Davidson's various places

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The drive through farmers

The drive through farmers market near the interstate and 17th st

Dale Avenue was a two-way street on November 22, 1963. Mom and I were just crossing the Grace Moore Cloverleaf on Western on our way to that market to buy apples and oranges. We heard on the radio of the shooting in Dallas, turned and went back home for that horrible weekend.

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Emery's

Emery's is still around on Chapman at moody. Though it is more of a nostalgic gift store now. There is still a small hardware department hidden in the back.

I loved the drive through farmer's market. I wonder how common those are/were. Just drive through and they bring a watermelon to your car. Couldn't be more convenient.

bizgrrl's picture

For some reason I thought the

For some reason I thought the farmer's market was on Grand or Forest. It was huge, as I remember.

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At one time there were

At one time there were markets at both locations and Mom used to hit them both. As a relatively new teen driver, it was often my 'job' to drive her. Only the Dale Avenue market was an indoor drive through though. It appears that Neel's Wholesale Produce is the only business left at the end of Forest Avenue.

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Antonio's Pizza-The Strip- Cumberland Ave

To the right of where Stefano's currently sits, slightly back off the street. Dark lighting, Black vinyl booths and the best thin crust pizza and Antipasto salad, yum

bizgrrl's picture

I remember Antonio's. It was

I remember Antonio's. It was more upscale than Stefano's. I never made it there, always broke.

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UT Computer Science

UT Computer Science students/faculty had standing weekly happy hour at Antonio's in the late 70s. Dave Straight's order was so regular that he ended up with a t-shirt emblazoned "Large Beef with Bacon."

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Antonio's had really good

Antonio's had really good pizza. My ex and I used to go there.

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Antonio's

Until I moved to New York, Antonio's was the best pizza I'd had. I went there for lunch every Monday during grad school, and was disappointed when I stopped by a couple years after I graduated and it was closed.

Someone mentioned Big Jim Hess earlier. There's a great clip on YouTube of Big Jim and erase in legend Ron Wright.

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We used to go there for

We used to go there for watermelons and other stuff. I remember my dad would only buy a watermelon if they let him "plug" it with his pocket knife to make sure it was ripe.

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Knoxville's Own "Miss Streamliner"

In May of 1941, the Southern Railway inaugurated The Tennessean, an all new streamlined trainset to operate between Washington DC, and Memphis, passing through Knoxville.

TIES, the magazine for SR employees, ran several articles about the new service including one about all the hoopla generated in towns served by the new train. Described as "unquestionably the giddiest and gaudiest promotion" was the Knoxville News-Sentinel's "Miss Streamliner" contest for young women aged 18 to 21. The winner would christen the tavern car "Knoxville" in a ceremony held on May 10.

"The balloting was fierce. By May 8, the last day of the contest, two employess of the Standard Knitting Mill were neck and neck with about 4300 votes each."

Then Miss Margaret Carmon staged a coup by delivering another 15,000 ballots just before the deadline (each ballot required the purchase of a newspaper).

Here's the article. Scroll about halfway down the page to the photo of the official ballot.

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Other places that I bet not too many people even knew about.....

Maude Stairs Grocery Store off McCalla Avenue. Best sliced cheese in town and the best place to dance at one time to a live band called "The Prisims" was The Travel Lodge on Papermill. How about the "Down Under" on Gay Street?

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Drug Store on Gay

What was the name of the drug store on Gay Street? I believe they also had locations in other parts of town. I lived in Knoxville from 1979-1989 and often bought flowers for my dear wife there. They used to run specials, like one dozen roses for $5.

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Drug store

Was it Cole Drug Store? They had stores all over. Mr. Cole sold out to Revco sometime in the 1970's.

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That's what I was thinking,

That's what I was thinking, but I was pretty sure it wasn't during the time mentioned.

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Pretty sure Revco was the

Pretty sure Revco was the only drugstore downtown when I was working at TVA between 1982 and 1996.

I remember Cole Drugstore on Cumberland before it was sold to Revco. Bought my first birth control pills there. Cost me $2.50.

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Coles Drug Store

I bought a set of pots and pans there while I was attending UT in the 60s. Put them in my hope chest. Still using them. I later worked in the office at their warehouse on Kingston Pike.

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A reader writes to ask if

A reader writes to ask if anyone has any photos of the Tic Toc drive-in on Magnolia next to the Pizza Palace and across from Chilhowee Park.

I certainly remember it. I should probably say no more, because I would have been underage, and running with the wrong crowd for my age.

Trivia: Pizza Palace is the only place I know of around here that still has drive-in curbside beer. Any others? It's a nice amenity, as long as you're not driving.

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The Original Louis Drive-In

You can still get a beer at the curb at Louis on Old Broadway.

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My Aunt Jane was Mr. Cole's

My Aunt Jane was Mr. Cole's private secretary for many years. I think she retired when the stores were sold to Rexall. She was a late bloomer who didn't get married until a few weeks past her 60th birthday. They bought the family farmhouse where she was raised and she was as giddy as any teen bride as she showed off the remodeling they were doing.

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Geronimo's and Hobo's

Night club, if you can call it that...located where Vatican Pizza would later be.

How about Hobo's on Cumberland Ave.!?

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Speaking of Dives

I have a friend who used to entertain at the Players Club on Broadway near Broadway Sound.

Saturdays we would go trout fishing on the Clinch, stop by the Pizza Hut at Emory Road and Clinton Highway for dinner, and then he would clean up and go to work in that place til the wee hours. He used to play a rendition of ZZ Top's La Grange for me when he saw me come in the door.

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Arthur Treachers Fish & Chips

Have not seen it listed here yet. The building is still standing on Clinton Highway and is a used car lot. I believe there was one on Chapman Highway also, across from Arby's.

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Annie's

This may deserve it's own thread - but the metropulse blog is reporting that Randy Boyd has applied for permission to demolish the Annie's restaurant building.

MP says they doubt there will be opposition but I dare say there are a lot more memories in the Annie's building than the Walnut buildings and Pryor brown garage combined.

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Memories aren't everything

Memories aren't everything when it comes to historic buildings, but yeah. I know I have some.

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Annie

I ran into Annie not too long ago while she was up on a visit. She is a delightful woman.

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The Mrs. and I were

The Mrs. and I were discussing something or other earlier this evening, and somehow the topic of past clothing retailers came up.

I was trying to remember a place down on (I think) Baxter Ave. I believe it would have been on the left on your way to Zayers (discussed earlier in this thread) off of Central.

My Dad used to take us there when I was a kid, and I went later on when I was (slightly) grown up and needed a suit or two for work in the early 70s.

I was racking my brain trying to remember the name of the place.

I think maybe it was Palm Beach Outlet? They may have even made clothes there at the location?

Anyone remember?

P.S. This is the greatest Knoxville nostalgia thread of all time Thanks to everyone.

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Palm Beach Mill Outlet. Fond

Palm Beach Mill Outlet. Fond memories of the place.

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They made clothes in Rockwood

They made clothes in Rockwood near where the main Roane State campus is. My grandmother worked there for several years. I once walked a strike line with her to get better working conditions. They didn't have air conditioning in the plant and the women ( and a few men) wanted more ventilation. They got it. Look for the union label. We sang that song in our house.

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Palm Beach and John H. Daniels

At one time we were a hub for some of the finest tailoring in the world.

Add into the mix Levi's and Standard Knitting Mills and it's easy to see why Knoxville quality was known world-wide, and the product had wide appeal. Try finding jeans, suits and underwear today that compare to those products.

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I think Palm Beach is correct

Yes, I bought clothes there a few times. You may be correct that some were made there.

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Check out this article on Palm Beach clothing history

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I had an aunt who worked at

I had an aunt who worked at what she called simply The Standard. Every Christmas my brother and I got a load of Healthknit briefs and undershirts from Aunt Alice with her employee discount.

bizgrrl's picture

I interviewed and toured a

I interviewed and toured a sewing factory right out of high school. I decided right after the tour I did not want to work there. Believe it was a Levi's plant, but can't be sure.

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My mother was a Rosie the

My mother was a Rosie the Riveter type at Alcoa during WWII where she met my dad. She became a stay at home mom after they were married in 1944 and didn't go back into the workforce until after his death in 1975. She worked at the Cherry Street Levi's plant making belt loops until she retired in the early 1990s.

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Hard Work

I'm going to take a minor leap of faith and presume you are talking about hard work. You make an excellent observation on the worth of working people. There is a reason Levi's made in Knoxville are considered collectors items and have actually risen in value. The craftsmanship was respected worldwide. But it was, and is, hard work.

There is a common sentiment among conservatives that unions are somehow outdated. There no longer is the need for OSHA and workplace regulations and fair wages that reflect the value of the goods produced by the hard work and sweat of American labor. They couldn't be more wrong.

Unfortunately, the days of viewing workers that chose the factory route and respecting their hard work and work ethic appear to be behind most Americans. They are looked upon with disdain by the upper class and scorned for not seeking an easier way of life. They have been stripped of their livelihoods and dignity and left with the option of stocking Chinese items on convenience store shelves.

In the same manner workers used to respect the intellectuals that could articulate the value of their work, the intellectuals respected the worker for the production of America's wealth. That just doesn't appear to be the case anymore.

Sorry about the soapbox, but it quickly becomes clear when talking to people my age that what we respected about the adults we were around was their work ethic, not their income level.

It's about people, not money.

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Wrong. I worked at two

Wrong. I worked at two different factories. I made seatbelts at Jim Robbins off Western Avenue. I made fishing lures at Doll Thompson, Forks of the River. At the clothing manufacturer, it was the cloth debris/particulate (?) and sitting at a sewing machine all day that did not appeal to me. Yes, I do sew and have sat at a sewing machine for hours at a time, but not days.

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Apologies.

The insinuation was not that you were afraid of work, but that you recognized the difficulties and hazards involved in blue collar work. Many realize that blue collar is not for them and there is nothing wrong with that. My point was that blue collar is every bit as worthy of respect as management or professional.

Thanks for the fish, by the way. I probably caught something with something you made since I fished just about every lure Doll produced at one time or another.

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Many Memories in this Thread

Bought several London Fog raincoats and golf jackets at Palm Beach Outlet. They sold at a premium in retail stores across the country.

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