Just got off the phone with the local Democratic office (not the Obama campaign). They said that the call back number is ringing to some poor doctor's office in Washington, DC. That's against the rules. But, whoops, just a small error. Sorry! Also, using a private number in a campaign call is also agin the rules.

True happiness is knowing you are a hypocrite. -- Ivor Cutler

That call is slightly different from the one I got, but the same George Mason poli sci undergrad voice.

True happiness is knowing you are a hypocrite. -- Ivor Cutler

Heh. I got played. I think the local Dems told me that as a pushback. Cool. Anyhow, McCain is a fucking bastard who isn't fit to fold sheets at my house let alone the White House.

True happiness is knowing you are a hypocrite. -- Ivor Cutler

I earned it and I am the best person to decide who I want to help with my money, not the government.

The government is welcome to decide what to do with your money as long as they are hurting people with it, right? It's the helping people that seems to draw guys like you out of the woodwork.

Since the call didn't deal with the economy just ridiculous assertions and thinly veiled racism, you can now post something germane to the topic, or just go away. BTW, your taxes will go down under Obama's plan (and McCain's too at a much smaller degree), but that all requires Congress to pass the law.

True happiness is knowing you are a hypocrite. -- Ivor Cutler

How many organizations that help minorities do you contribute to now and how much? How much would you actually contribute to our public schools? How much would you contribute to the hard working community organizations that have helped poor people get ahead, helped women get the vote, and helped protect so many of our rights (like voting rights, workers rights, women's rights? To not give a damn about ALL our citizens, to not realize that the way we treat "the least of us" matters is immoral and selfish.

Republicans are selfish. They really hate their fellow Americans and they live in cowardly fear of them. Republicans only address the needs of the wealthy and comfortable, and they are the most uncharitable people on earth except for the tithing they allow their churches to demand from them and the money they donate to the RNC and NRA. Is tithing wrong? It does not allow people to decide who exactly gets helped with their money. Evangelical churches have been guilty of squandering thousands of dollars of peoples hard-earned money, yet you hardly ever hear Republicans rebelling against tithing.

There is nothing wrong with caring about people. Liberals have always been proud of this, and I have always been proud to be a Liberal. It means I have a soul.

that is what scares me.

Stock up on rubber sheets and Celexa. It's going to be a long four years for you.

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the distance between black & white is much further than i would like until now i never noticed that fascism has many disguises -d. boon, 1981

The issue of a future President having any, and I mean walking by him on the street, association with such an UNREPENTANT scum, and spare me the crap about him teaching college, is a serious one. ... and we all have a right to know whether or not a domestic terrorist will have an influence upon the next President. What sickens me is how every last Democrat seems to have no problem with such a scumbag-that is what scares me

Fair enough:

Here are some good examples of "palling around" with terrorists and/or anti-Americans beyond the level of "walking by him on the street":

1. Which candidate contributed with his personal finances to an organization that a Congressional investigation identified as a terrorist organization? The investigation's committee report found that the organization "raped, tortured and killed unarmed civilians, including children" and that "groups of civilians, including pregnant women and children were burned, dismembered, blinded and beheaded."
2. Which candidate had political events hosted in the home of a convicted felon, a man accused of trying to subvert the Constitution and who used the national airwaves to call upon citizens to shoot federal officials in the head? Does that qualify as domestic terrorism?
3. Obama serving on a community board for improving education is enough to label him as "palling around with terrorists." What of McCain's association with a man who went to North Vietnam (and arranged Jane Fonda's famous photo op) and denounced the United States of America on Radio Hanoi...while McCain was in a North Vietnamese prison camp? McCain seems to think the actions of 60s radicals are forgiveable-- as long as the 60s radical isn't associated with a current political opponent. Of David Isfhin, McCain called him not an acquaintance, but a friend. McCain says also, ""We worked together in an organization dedicated to promoting human rights in the country where he and I had once come for different reasons. I came to admire him for his generosity, his passion for his ideals, for the largeness of his heart, and I realized he had not been my enemy, but my countryman . . . my countryman ...and later my friend. His friendship honored me. We disagreed over much. Our politics were often opposed, and we argued those disagreements. But we worked together for our shared ideals."
4. Which candidate regularly sends politically friendly speeches and video statements to a secessionist group whose leader has been quoted as saying, amongst other things: "I've got no use for America or her damned institutions?" and "The fires of hell are frozen glaciers compared to my hatred for the American governnment."
5. How many of the above events and associations have these terrorist-friendly politicans renounced?

What I would like to know is if Ayres had been responsible for killing over 3,000 Americans...

What I would like to know is whether losing your grip on reality is a precondition for becoming a right-winger or a consequence of it.