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A principal learns that "A Paddle In Hand Is Better Than Two On The Tush"
Submitted by JaHu on Thu, 2008/02/28 - 9:52pm.
A principal in Hancock County will plead guilty to assault for a paddling incident of one of his elementary students.
According to WATE news, "Hancock County schools allow corporal punishment but strict guidelines must be followed."
Something almost seems barbaric and double standard about this. If we parents were to use wooden paddles on our children, we would be hauled off to jail and our children would be taken from us. I feel there should be discipline but the strictest discipline should be left to the parent and not by someone who could care less about the well being of our children.
Submitted by Lobster on Thu, 2008/02/28 - 10:40pm.
Any public educator that uses corporal punishment in today's legal climate is beyond stupid. No matter how well intentioned, no matter how careful, no matter how closely guidelines are followed, it's a recipe for disaster. Then again, having sex with students is a no-no too, but that seems to happen with alarming frequency as well.
Submitted by Erin Lonas on Thu, 2008/02/28 - 11:46pm.
Yes Lobster, if my spouse were to lay a hand on me it would be assault. Why do we think it is okay to strike the smallest among us, as if that is the only language they will understand?
It seems kind of a stretch to refer to an elementary school principal as, "someone who could care less about the well being of our children." I'm sure there are some of them who are in it for the power trip of lording over a bunch of six-year-olds, but I'd prefer to give them the benefit of the doubt.
I was spanked by my father, teachers and principal when I was a kid. No real trauma there and I don't think any of them ought to get in trouble for it. That said, it sets the moral development bar pretty low when the adult example is at a pre-conventional, "you done wrong, so I gotta hurt you" level.
It seems kind of a stretch to refer to an elementary school principal as, "someone who could care less about the well being of our children."
I certainly wouldn't and haven't used a paddle on my children. So yes I feel anyone who would use one on my children shows me that they are not concerned for my children's well being. I've known many principals and most that I've known were good people, but looking back to my grammar school days I remember some who were proud of the right given them for inflicting pain on their students using these slabs of wood. It was very obvious they enjoyed doing it, and not only the principals but some of the coaches.
I remember the one time I received a whack on the can. It wasn't done by the principal but by my coach, and the only crime I was guilty of, is that I wouldn't rat out another player. I wasn't the only one who received the punishment on that day, all of us on the basketball team did. After that I despised the coach and also the principal who seemed overly enthused viewing this ritualistic act carried out on kids half his size from that day on. I believe in discipline but I feel that this was an act of violence.
Paddling and spanking in the public school setting should be discontinued simply because of the danger of lawsuits for both teachers and administrators.
I've worked in school systems that had corporal punishment, but the principal would call the parent or guardian to have him/her administer it. Even in school systems that still have corporal punishment most schools don't use it.
As for what Hayduke said, I don't think the danger is that it sets the developmental bar too low. That's being done through the continual toleration of behavior that makes a classroom unmanageable, and as a result unteachable.
Any public educator that uses corporal punishment in today's legal climate is beyond stupid. No matter how well intentioned, no matter how careful, no matter how closely guidelines are followed, it's a recipe for disaster. Then again, having sex with students is a no-no too, but that seems to happen with alarming frequency as well.
Yes Lobster, if my spouse were to lay a hand on me it would be assault. Why do we think it is okay to strike the smallest among us, as if that is the only language they will understand?
It seems kind of a stretch to refer to an elementary school principal as, "someone who could care less about the well being of our children." I'm sure there are some of them who are in it for the power trip of lording over a bunch of six-year-olds, but I'd prefer to give them the benefit of the doubt.
I was spanked by my father, teachers and principal when I was a kid. No real trauma there and I don't think any of them ought to get in trouble for it. That said, it sets the moral development bar pretty low when the adult example is at a pre-conventional, "you done wrong, so I gotta hurt you" level.
It seems kind of a stretch to refer to an elementary school principal as, "someone who could care less about the well being of our children."
I certainly wouldn't and haven't used a paddle on my children. So yes I feel anyone who would use one on my children shows me that they are not concerned for my children's well being. I've known many principals and most that I've known were good people, but looking back to my grammar school days I remember some who were proud of the right given them for inflicting pain on their students using these slabs of wood. It was very obvious they enjoyed doing it, and not only the principals but some of the coaches.
I remember the one time I received a whack on the can. It wasn't done by the principal but by my coach, and the only crime I was guilty of, is that I wouldn't rat out another player. I wasn't the only one who received the punishment on that day, all of us on the basketball team did. After that I despised the coach and also the principal who seemed overly enthused viewing this ritualistic act carried out on kids half his size from that day on. I believe in discipline but I feel that this was an act of violence.
Adrift in the Sea of Humility
Paddling and spanking in the public school setting should be discontinued simply because of the danger of lawsuits for both teachers and administrators.
I've worked in school systems that had corporal punishment, but the principal would call the parent or guardian to have him/her administer it. Even in school systems that still have corporal punishment most schools don't use it.
As for what Hayduke said, I don't think the danger is that it sets the developmental bar too low. That's being done through the continual toleration of behavior that makes a classroom unmanageable, and as a result unteachable.
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