Contact Rep. Duncan. DONE.

yep - I contacted Duncan to encourage his support in stopping an over-ride. The bill was vetoed due to the huge expansion of the program over the existing program.

As written, the new bill would allow participation of "children" up to age 25 + their parents to be covered. I don't recall the exact number, but it also allows coverage up for those making something like 3 or 4 hundred percent over the poverty level. That is well over the median income of Americans. Why should I provide insurance for those making more than the median income?

PS - it was the GOP who passed the original SCHIP program

Google "limbaugh schip poverty" and you find...

Limbaugh said that SCHIP would actually cover "children" up to the age of 25. His argument was that covering everyone making approximately $80,000 a year (400% of the federal poverty level) up to their 25th birthday would amount to socialized health insurance. I don't have a copy of the bill to verify this, is there any truth to that statement?

RedDog's "research," ladies & gents. What a shock.

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"Respect mah authoritah!" - Fred Cartman Thompson

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Here's a tip for parents whose kids will lose SCHIP coverage: Have your kids taken into state custody! In foster care, the state will pay 100% of their medical expenses, including dental, psychiatric and prescription drugs, regardless of your income. Or have your kids adopted by a stranger; the Federal adoption subsidy often includes Medicare coverage until they turn 18. You too can beat the system!
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And we can take in each other's washing to keep the economy humming along.

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Less is the new More - Karrie Jacobs

It just shows how high our cost of living has risen recently.

Bought a gallon of milk lately? Or a loaf of bread?

I refused to pay $4 a gallon, now I see it's up to $5.28 in some stores. Wheat prices are up some 50% due to the drought, so now bread is also at a premium. Can you raise a kid without bread or milk?

But Mr. Bush's SCHIP veto makes perfect sense doesn't it? Throw the kids under the bus and take the money saved, shrink wrap it to a pallet, and fly it to vietnam Iraq.

Wearybottom Associates

contact Congress and ask them to come up with something that makes sense -

The veto override fails, falls short of two-thirds majority, 273-156.

If your child is diagnosed with leukemia, and you have no insurance, you should be forced into bankruptcy! It's the American way.

It's that damn child's fault for being born and getting sick.

More "fourth trimester" issues for the pro-lifers to ponder.

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"Respect mah authoritah!" - Fred Cartman Thompson

would not produce children it can't afford?

Eh? This society can "afford" all the children it produces.

It just prefers to spend the money killing other societies' children.

You had us, Nancy. You absolutely had us.

Your Party had gotten a bloated S-CHIP bill through the Senate with a veto-proof majority, and within spitting distance of one in the House. You had bipartisan support - reluctant support (they didn't like the bloat), but support nonetheless - and a favorable media presence. You knew that President Bush was going to veto the bill, but it wouldn't matter. All you had to do was get it overridden and hey presto! You'd have scored your first personal win against the President and the GOP. Simple. Straightforward. Arranging this sort of thing is what competent Speakers of the House do.

And you flubbed it. Which means that President George W Bush beat you.

Again.

Read on.

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empirical evidence: try the USA before 1913

The 16th Amendment broke the free market?

Yuh huh.

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"Respect mah authoritah!" - Fred Cartman Thompson

USA Free Market Pre-1913:

* Unsafe workplaces.
* No minimum wage.
* Child labor (not to mention slave labor and indenture)
* Unsafe food.
* No 40-hour work-week; no overtime.
* Debtor's prison (Georgia was intended to be the USA debtor's resettlement)
* Caste law

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"Respect mah authoritah!" - Fred Cartman Thompson

Ah! You have figured out the real reasons unions came to be. The reasons they exist today are not the reasons they got started. You think you need to ask permission to organize?

POWER TO THE PEOPLE...., if that's OK with you folks in DC.

Have all the states ratified the 16th amendment?

Does being a Dem mean one has to beg for inalienable rights?

No right is inalienable. There's this thing called "due process" that supercedes every right you might claim.

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"Respect mah authoritah!" - Fred Cartman Thompson

What happens when those in government ignore the Constitution? The bigger government gets, the more ignores our founders.

Our founders envisioned the Constitution as a living document to be rewritten. See: Constitutional Convention.

Jefferson thought that there should be a CC about every seven and a half Presidential terms.

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Where does a family of four go to get insurance for $4,000 annually?

Yes, I would like to know this as well. And, how good is the insurance?

Insurance Agent is talking about CoverTN.

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A 35 year old male and his 33 year old wife with two children under 18, don't smoke and in good physical shape can get the "One Deductible" with a 5 grand ded. for $352.15 per month. This is the best HSA out there, and also likely the most expensive but the rates tend to be staple compared to BC, Aetna or UHC. Or around 4,200 yearly, yet I can beat that price with several companies at a reduce price, I use it because it is about the highest price plan per benefits.

Oh, by the way, the HSA is always cheaper then traditional or PPO, that is if you use it a lot or don't use it!

$5,000 is a pretty high deductible for most families of 4. If healthcare was needed throughout the year that would add and additional $400/month for a total of approximately $750/month. Try again.

If healthcare was needed throughout the year that would add and additional $400/month for a total of approximately $750/month.

It's not a problem. A family who actually needed the $5000 per year for health care would not be able to purchase the policy because the insurance companies wouldn't cover them.

The insurance companies would prefer those people to spend on health care until they're bankrupt so they can be culled out of the profit system and onto Medicaid.

HR676 is the solution.

And if they insurance company does accept you they have stiff pre-existing clauses, many up to a year. So you pay the $400-750/month and do not get coverage for the specific illness you got the insurance for in the first place. Such as kidney stones, diabetes, high blood pressure, any myriad of "female problems". And the insurance companies are sneaky about this clause. They will get medical records for years back from all your healthcare providers and find that in 1995 you had bronchitis. So this case of bronchitis this year is just a part of a "chronic" or past condition, sorry- not covered. Or if you should be pregnant and the conception date is close to the date you signed on, sorry- no coverage (for you or the baby!).

I think IA is just here to sell insurance. Trolling for customers?