Tue
Aug 7 2007
11:28 pm
By: michael kaplan

Somebody wrote: "Seems to be the sort of guy who will not only point out that the glass is half empty, but also will complain that he really doesn't like the glass, either."

It's politicians and poseurs who ask the question, "Is the glass half full or half empty?" It's half full for their friends, and half-empty for their critics. Rationalists might counter, "It's a 12-ounce glass, and it contains 6 ounces of water."

Somebody's picture

Very clever indeed

Just got around to noticing this... Glad I could help stimulate discussion and creativity.

StaceyDiamond's picture

Sunsphere

Enjoyed my recent visit to the Sunsphere and glad its opened back up.

rocketsquirrel's picture

edit needed at the sunsphere

Bill,

nice work on the exhibits at the Sunsphere. but an edit needed. there are more historic neighborhoods than just Fourth and Gill as one gazes northward. Perhaps mention of Old North, Parkridge, etc, might be in order? George Barber/Parkridge?

Up Goose Creek's picture

12th floor

So they talk like that on the 12th floor? That makes sense because that kind of conversation goes right over my head. I'm glad y'all are enjoying it.

By contrast my "higher" education took place in a basement and my most marketable skill is knowing how to move dirt around with a pencil.

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bizgrrl's picture

Academically rooted, mostly BS

Hey, Bill, we love academia. Grew up surrounded by those who teach, and practice. UTK was a second home. Everything's BS, don't you know. Until something actually happens it's just rhetoric. The BS can't stop, though, or nothing will happen. Maybe?!?!?

Tamara Shepherd's picture

12th Floor

"Michael's post was a nice metaphor for what a lot of academic discourse is about, especially in some parts of McClung Tower."

Thirty years ago, that "part" was up on the 12th floor. I used to head up there before, after, and sometimes *during* class to hang out. Your posts like this one make me smile to recall those visits.

JaHu's picture

Thirty years ago, that

Thirty years ago, that "part" was up on the 12th floor. I used to head up there before, after, and sometimes *during* class to hang out.

Can't say that I was ever a part of the academia discussions of the 12th floor, but thirty some odd years ago I did used to attend hang gliding meetings there. I think I recall a chalkboard filled with an equation that only Einstien would have understood.

By the way, the glass is neither half full nor half empty. It is full, full of two essentials of life, air and water.

Adrift in the Sea of Humility

Bill Lyons's picture

Tamara, A bunch of us in a

Tamara, A bunch of us in a lot of departments really mourned the fate of the 12th floor of McClung Tower. It had been a great, open spot to talk to faculty and grad students from a lot of disciplines - a real community with donuts and coffee. Somebody thought it necessary to shut that down and put in some cubicle offices, etc. Some Associate Dean somewhere was upset that grad students were "making out," perish the thought. Without it people from different disciplines interacted far less about narratives and such things.

R. Neal's picture

Speaking of the World's

Speaking of the World's Fair, I found today's article about the Amphitheater interesting.

(link...)

It's been sitting there decaying for eight years, and they were able to fix it in three weeks? But it cost $850,000 to put in a support and weld some joints? How can you spend $850,000 in three weeks?

And I love the part about how it didn't cost the taxpayers anything. Just like the TIFs that paid for it. Money out of thin air that didn't exist before. If you didn't have it, you won't miss it when it's gone, or something.

I give Dr. Bill Lyons credit, though, for sticking to the party line. Hopefully someday Knoxville will put all this behind and just enjoy concerts at the Amphiteater and the views from the Sunsphere and free concerts at the World's Fair Park.

Bill Lyons's picture

World's Fair Park

The $1.82 million dollars are "real dollars" from the sale of the Candy Factory and the Victorians. A check was written and cashed. The "party line" is that entire World's Fair Park project, writ large, including the sale and restoration of the historic structures, the renovation of public assets, and the creation of new public assets to replace the major elements of what was lost in the sale all took place at a net wash to the taxpayers.

As for the cost, the cost of the structural steel, the weeks long rental of three large cranes, engineering fees on a complicated undertaking. etc. is just part of the cost. Hard for me to evaluation, being a fake rather than real scientist/engineer. The rest is major cleanup, landscaping, electrical, etc. that we hope will come in short of the budgeted amount but will probably approach it.

Sorry for the edit... the original was too long, off topic, and not really appropriate in tone.

smalc's picture

and the facility will not

and the facility will not be used for formal entertainment purposes.

Ok...seems kind of an odd concept.

SnM's picture

half of what?

I've always said if there's water in the glass, I call it half a glass of water; if there's beer in the glass, I call it time for another round.

WhitesCreek's picture

Nancy Reagan:

The glass moved to the right... half it's contents have been stolen.

Andy Axel's picture

Over-engineered

The glass is twice the size that it needs to be.

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Bill Lyons's picture

Reality through a prism?

Interesting. Should one draw the conclusions that the respective “half-full” and “half-empty” characterizations of the glass of water (empirically verified reality through a prism?) merely extensions of the ongoing narratives that go on independent of the characteristics of the glass and/or the water? And what is the narrative a product of: ideology, some other kind of belief system, group identity, class, race, or something else? The rationalist conclusion is in itself a narrative, IMHO.

That leads to the question.. If the glass of water is just a prop for a predictable ongoing discussion, why bother? It leads to a follow-up question – does the ongoing narrative, or clash of narratives, have any impact? A lot of my fellow Social Scientist and Humanities friends (and some others across all disciplines) think the narrative really is all that matters (factual basis comes and goes, but is basically inconsequential… eg Duke rape trial) and that the terms of the narrative need to change. I don’t subscribe to that view myself, but do understand it and think it contains elements of truth. Most of the academic discussion is at the national and international level. But what of local discourse? Any nominations for the terms of the local narratives? I have to think these terms extend well beyond supporters and opponents of whoever holds office.

Great visual, by the way, Michael. And speaking of local narratives we are having the opening of the new dance and public meeting space at the Emporium tomorrow. This build out, paid for by Kinsey Probasco Hays in re: agreement with the city, replaces space formally at the Candy Factory.

A last thought of great interest to me.. What of the role of the internet / blogosphere, etc. relative to ongoing narratives at all levels of government and politics?

R. Neal's picture

That's the other thing about

That's the other thing about Dr. Lyons. He can always be counted on to whip out an academic treatise on any topic and make it sound like a good idea or at least interesting.

Not sure if this falls under dazzling them with brilliance or baffling them with BS...

I guess it depends on whether the glass is half empty or if there's room for some brilliant BS.

:)

Bill Lyons's picture

Academically rooted, mostly BS

It is really the kind of BS that makes for a lot of discussion in the academic world. Sorry. Michael's post was a nice metaphor for what a lot of academic discourse is about, especially in some parts of McClung Tower. Obviously I should not impose it here. There is ample opportunity when I head back over to whatever world that is if this is the "real world."

"I guess it depends on whether the glass is half empty or if there's room for some brilliant BS."

R. Neal's picture

Hey, I was just kidding

Hey, I was just kidding around. Impose away. It's always interesting and good exercise for the mind.

rikki's picture

Any nominations for the

Any nominations for the terms of the local narratives?

Nothing a little lobster tail can't fix.

Carole Borges's picture

And a mystic might say...

The glass has unfulfilled potentiality

bizgrrl's picture

Very clever, Michael. Point

Very clever, Michael. Point very well made.

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