Fri
Jun 22 2007
08:05 am

This is soooo true!

Link...

Moore: It's an enforced ignorance. It's called keeping the American people stupid. Whether it's our educational system or whether it's the mainstream media, it's all about making sure people don't know what's going on in other countries. We know nothing about the rest of the world. I mean, until recently, when they said if you travel to Canada or Mexico you had to have a passport, until then it was 80%-plus didn't even have a passport in this country. So people don't travel. They don't know much. I point out in the film that our high school graduates, when asked where Great Britain is on the globe, 65% couldn't find it. 65% couldn't find Great Britain on the globe. 11% couldn't find the United States on the globe -- 11% of eighteen to twenty-five-year-olds, according to National Geographic. It's like, OK -- you know, we have a problem in this country. We don't want to know about the rest of the world. And, I mean, ask most Americans who the prime minister of Canada is. I mean, seriously. And I don't mean -- and I'm not saying this -- you know, let's go ask a bunch of dumb hicks out in, you know, Whereverville. I'm saying, if I just looked around this room right now and asked this crew, which I would say this is a more aware crew of people who, you know, follow the news and, you know, they work with you.

And this is revolting...

And so, it was a race between the US, Canada and Cuba. And to make a long story short, Cuba won. They had the fastest care, the best care, and it cost nothing.

We turn the show in to NBC that week, and we get a call from the censor. They're not called "the censor," they're called Standards & Practices. And so, this woman calls. She's the head of Standards & Practices -- Dr. Somebody. I don't know they -- she actually had a "Dr." before her name, but I forget her last name now. But she calls, and she says, "Mike, Cuba can't win." I said, "What?" "Cuba can't win." "Well, they won. What do you mean they can't win? They won." "No, we can't say that on NBC. We can't say that Cuba won." "Well, yeah, but they won! They provided the fastest care. They were the cheapest. And the patient was happy, and the bone got fixed." "No, it's against regulations here." I said, "Oh, well, I'm not changing it."

Well, they changed it. They changed it. Two days later, when it aired, they changed it so that Canada won. And Canada didn't win. Canada almost won, but they charged the guy $15 for some crutches on the way out. So it's bugged me to this day that anybody who saw that episode, you know, where it said, you know, "and Canada won the Healthcare Olympics," and in fact it was Cuba, but that couldn't be said on NBC, because God knows what would happen.

Virgil Proudfoot's picture

Gore "reluctantly" supports single-payer

A few years ago, Al Gore mentioned in an interview that he had "reluctantly" come to the conclusion that single-payer was the best solution to the failure of the health-care system in the US.

That's when I knew Gore would never run for president again, ever. Because anyone who offers this simple, humane, and rational an approach to the problem would be destroyed by the insurance racketeers who run the system.

Ironically, Michael Moore is wishing for a Gore candidacy this time around, although he supported Nader in 2000--before Gore's conversion to supporting single-payer.

Rachel's picture

Actually toward the end of

Actually toward the end of the 2000 campaign Moore was urging folks in solid blue states like New York to vote for Nader, but folks in toss-up states (e.g. Florida) to vote for Gore.

Virgil Proudfoot's picture

That's true

That's absolutely true. I certainly don't blame Moore for Gore's "defeat" in 2000. The blame goes to Gore himself, for running such a lackluster campaign, with maybe a little left over for campaign advisor Bob Shrum. Shrum also did a heckuva job for Kerry and Edwards, both of whom he advised to vote for the Iraq invasion.

Carole Borges's picture

Moore might be a bit sloppy, but he does say it like it is

Okay, so Michael Moore is not a perfect journalist. He goes a bit round the bend at times with facts that aren't exactly accurate, but then again he doesn't profess to be a genius. He's just an average smuck with a camera and a brilliant curious mind. When he ambles into the lion's den like a fat furry little mouse, the most amazing thing about him is his ability to tap into the heart of our collective concern about the authorities in charge of our lives.

Secretive government agencies, big Pharma, the FDA, these people hold our very lives in their hands, and we all fret over the fact that they have historically not always acted in our own best interest.

Moore shows no fear when he shuffles up to these shadowy figures to shine his lights on them. Lights, cameras, action! He catches people off gaurd. He finds victims willing to speak out, and he has the moxey to enjoy himself while he's doing this.

I think Sicko will be a big hit because no one can dispute the medical system here is failing. Brag all you want, those of you who think the USA is tops in medicine, but statistics prove this is just not true. We are not the leaders in medical care for our citizens. We ARE the leaders in research and development because that's where the big money is.

So what if Gramma can't afford the medicine she needs? So what if Uncle Dan commited suicide because of a side effect? Nothing is perfect right? So why then should everyone expect Michael Moore, the dumpy imp with the camera on his shoulder, to be accurate in everything he says?

Kind of a double standard, eh what?

Virgil Proudfoot's picture

Sloppy?

Name some inaccuracies in Moore's movies. I don't think you'll find any; you've simply absorbed a right-wing talking point.

Carole Borges's picture

Egads, man. You could be right!

In trying to find credible sources citing Moore's inaccuracies I found none. I did find a lot of discussion about his "errors", but you're correct to say they were mostly from right-wing (not necessarily totally whacko) sources. It was these accusers that made me jump to defend Moore. I'm a real fan of Moore's. Totally.

By the way, in my searching for negatives about Moore's facts I came upon this comment about Fred Thompson in Hardblogger. (link...)

" A few weeks ago, potential GOP presidential candidate Fred Thompson criticized Moore for going to Cuba. Moore replied that Thompson was helping Cuba even more by “smoking Cuban cigars.” Thompson then filmed a you tube video with a cigar in hand and suggested that Moore belonged in a “mental institution” just like one that a Cuban film maker was thrown in by dictator Fidel Castro. We asked Moore about Thompson’s latest shot... and Moore fired back. Moore said, “he (Thompson) is one of my favorite TV actors and I can’t wait to see the next video.”

You gotta love this guy right?

Thanks for pointing out the brain contamination. I was less interested in the sources of the allegations and more interested in defending Moore, even if they were right.

Virgil Proudfoot's picture

Glad to be of service!

I think it's important always to be aware of the right-wing indoctrination that assaults us every day--and not just on AM hate radio and Fox News. NPR, beloved by liberals, did a real hit piece on Moore last week, making me wonder how much underwriting they get from the insurance and pharmaceutical rackets.

I managed to catch a sneak showing of "Sicko," and it completely lives up to its reputation. It's by far Moore's best movie yet, and you'll cry while laughing when you leave the theater. I just hope this film can be used to help rally support for single-payer. There's no greater injustice within this country than the way health care is rationed by capitalism. If the system doesn't change soon, we'll all be sicko.

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