Mon
May 14 2007
01:33 pm

The first public input session is tonight at Halls High School from 7 pm to 9 pm. You can attend any of the five meetings to make your voice heard.

In spite of what some are saying, these meetings do not have a predetermined outcome. Knox County - One Question is a result of the decision affirming that we have a home rule charter. The public comments and Baker Center Study will be reported to the public in late August. If citizens want to use that information to make changes in county government, the current charter provides a mechanism to do just that. We don't need a new charter to change the form of government.

Some current public officials, who are not involved with the 'One Question' steering committee, have proposed looking at metro or unified government. They want to throw out the current city and county charters and replace them with one new charter. Will a metro charter include term limits and a mechanism for citizens to make charter amendments? The current charter does.

Pundits, politicians, political junkies and bloggers who say this is just another metro group are either uninformed, unimaginative or deliberately trying to mislead the public. Maybe they can only imagine the current form of government or metro. I say let's listen to the ideas citizens have and look at what some other communities are doing and then decide if we can use our home rule charter to make government work better for the voters and taxpayers. If all you can imagine is the current model or metro, maybe you should come and be enlightened by your neighbors.

Mark Siegel's picture

Tom, what is the format going to be?

Who will speakers address, if anyone?

How will speakers sign up?

How will the meeting be recorded?

How speakers' time be limited?

Tom Salter's picture

Two hour meeting. Citizens

Two hour meeting. Citizens will assemble in a large room first after signing in and getting assignment to a small group. Joe Johnson will give overview. Alan Lowe will describe Baker Center role. Lynne Fugate will describe comment recording rules. Citizens will go to small group meetings - no more than 10 per group. First person will present an idea. The idea will be recorded using the exact words. If too long original speaker will have to condense words. Recorder will not comment, clarify or answer questions. Then second person presents idea and that is recorded. This proceeds until no new ideas are suggested or if time runs out. Then small group picks their top 3 ideas by secret ballot. All small groups report their top ideas to the large group. All ideas will be recorded and made available to the public when all the public meetings are over. See the website at (link...) for more information.

Sandra Clark's picture

Batter up

Pundits, politicians, political junkies and bloggers who say this is just another metro group are either uninformed, unimaginative or deliberately trying to mislead the public.

Tom: If you think this process will generate anything other than a strong mayor (few elected officials) form of government proposal (or metro), then you ain't from around here.

There is ONE WAY to change Knox County government. Run for office, get elected. -- s.

Sandra Clark's picture

Batter up

Oh, yeah. The "batter up" header is for the Halls Red Devils regional baseball game at 6:30 p.m. at Halls High School tonight. That's where I'll be ... The way it works is... A crowd of guys sit in a dugout ... They get up in groups of three and try to knock the ball over the fence. Each pitch is carefully recorded. The winner will advance toward the state championship, while the loser goes home.

It's sort of like politics. -- s.

Tom Salter's picture

Oh, yeah. The "batter up"

Oh, yeah. The "batter up" header is for the Halls Red Devils regional baseball game at 6:30 p.m. at Halls High School tonight. That's where I'll be ... The way it works is... A crowd of guys sit in a dugout ... They get up in groups of three and try to knock the ball over the fence. Each pitch is carefully recorded. The winner will advance toward the state championship, while the loser goes home.

It's sort of like politics. -- s.

I've only lived here 36 years so I guess I need to spend a whole lot more time here to figure out what is going on. Are saying that if I lived here longer I wouldn't be naive or that I wouldn't be idealistic? Would I develop an overwhelming sense of powerlessness and lose all hope for a different possible future?

FtnCity HAPPY's picture

loser goes home...

...That is a mouth full

Sandra,
I am glad you have such a great outlook on your community! It just makes me want to call Knoxville home. Don’t knock the process until you come to a meeting and give your input…, then say what you want.

Knox Insider 007's picture

That

is not her role. Ftn. City HAPPY you are beginning to see the rest of the story.

Sandra Clark's picture

One Question

Hi, folks. Got a bit snarky this afternoon.

After the baseball game (Halls got smashed) I drifted by the high school cafeteria for the One Question meeting. Enjoyed asking John Schmid, Joe Sullivan, others from the West Side whether they needed directions upon leaving.

Seriously, there were about 100 or so folks there -- about half from Halls, Corryton, Fountain City or Powell and the balance from downtown or the West Side.

Two commissioners were the only elected officials I saw -- Larry Smith and Mark Harmon. Former commissioner Larry Stephens was there -- good to see him.

Most of the groups reported back for unified government.

Becky Longmire facilitated one small group -- she was her usual fiery self -- advocating for equal school facilities, course offerings, etc.

A few folks from the Halls Republican Club attended -- Wally Welch, Lee Johnson, Winona and Hilton Tunnell. It would have been interesting to have polled the fans at the baseball game. -- s.

Socialist With A Gold Card's picture

Becky

Knowing Becky Longmire, she'd probably object to your use of "fiery"; instead, she'd probably insist that she's merely sure of herself, and that she's a model of decorum and civility in asserting the self-evident truth of her position.

And she'd be right. Usually. ;-)

--Socialist With A Gold Card


"I'm a socialist with a gold card. I firmly believe we need a revolution; I'm just concerned that I won't be able to get good moisturizer afterwards." -- Brett Butler

rocketsquirrel's picture

reminds me

"If you're a man and you're outspoken, you're a man of conviction. If you're a woman and you're outspoken, you're just a bitch."

-- Carlene Malone, 1991.

It's a shame that in 2007, whether you're Becky Longmire or Nancy Pelosi, as women, the media is still more interested in your demeanor or your clothes rather than the values and ideas you represent.

Tom Salter's picture

Halls meeting fun and interesting

While there have been some "outcomes" reported from the Halls High School meeting in the news, you need to have been there to get a feel for the broad scope of comments.

My brainstorming group had 8 citizens and one leader. The leader did not contribute to the ideas. I participated tonight because I will be a small group facilitator at 3 of the other meetings.

Ideas covered the school board, staggered election cycles, commission redistricting, civil service protection for county workers, prohibitions and restrictions on county workers and their families working for the county, the wheel tax, school taxes and yes...unified government (not metro, but I'm not sure what the difference is). The other small discussion groups also seemed to cover a broad range of topics but I haven't seen the full list of ideas from all the meetings.

If you are interested in what's going on with this process, attend one of the meetings. Sandra estimated about 100 and the News Sentinel reported about 80 attended. I haven't seen the sign-in sheets to get a real head count. Some arrived with long lists of ideas. Others used the government snapshot published in the News Sentinel for ideas. It was fun and interesting.

The 'One Question' steering committee will publish all the comments from all the meetings on the (link...) website after the Fulton High meeting on the 22nd.

bill young's picture

one government

1.Unified/metro government.

2.Non partisan winner take all elections.Held per constitution.

3.All elections held in the same year as the sheriffs election.

4.The mayor is the adminstrative officer.
get rid of the so called fee offices.

5. The sheriff is the top cop.

6. Judges elected per term;non partisan.

7. Nine districts;nine commissioners.

8. Mayor appoints fire chief with commission approval.

9. Term limits for Mayor,Sheriff & Commission.

10. School Board & superintendent as is per BEP.

Ennui's picture

I'd recommend this group

I'd recommend this group going out into the public; neighborhoods and whatnot. Old fashioned door knocking campaign...

Those are the voters that need to be sold on these issues. Holding workshops will only attract a certain percentage, and fairly or not, those folks will look like busybodies or the 'elites' that Bill Lyons wrote about.

FtnCity HAPPY's picture

Re: Recommend this group....

"I'd recommend this group going out into the public; neighborhoods and whatnot. Old fashioned door knocking campaign"

I would not be knocking on anyones door, Did you see the story about Diane Jordan... And she knew the owner. Click Here

Ennui's picture

Maybe the dog wasn't a fan

Maybe the dog wasn't a fan of her lawsuit?

Sam's picture

I would not be knocking on

I would not be knocking on anyones door, Did you see the story about Diane Jordan... And she knew the owner. Click Here

After reading this article, I am left with some questions? The parents were away from home? the 14 yr. old was taking a shower? the 4 year old opens the door to who shows up at the door at night and the pit-bull jumps through a hole in the screen door and attacks. Another story of dangerous and irresponsible owners who left children alone with a pit bull.

D Mac's picture

Taking it to the streets?

I have only been a "political player" for a short time and for my own reasons. The most important lesson I have learned is that what gets the voters to the polls is they have to be passionate about an issue or candidate. If there is no passion, people will generally not be interested in the outcome therefore do not feel the need to vote.

The same is true here, but I am not sure what comes first. The public forums are to invite everyone but will draw only those that are interested and care about being a part of the process. Do we then boil that down to the essential points and take that to the streets to get the disinterested involved?

In the past few months I have noticed more of an interest coming from the non-voters because of Black Wednesday and the school rezoning. Overly scheduled parents are beginning to see what their lack of involvement in local politics can affect their way of life. I really hope this interest stays alive till the elections for the School Board, County Commission, and fee offices. And to also spark an interest in the Knox County One Question process.

As noted on another thread, on the national level the republicans use fear as their passionate issue to incite the public. Perhaps fear of another Black Wednesday or of being zoned to the "wrong" school will draw people to involvement in local government. My fear has been that it would just disinfranchise the voter even more, with the "why bother, they are all corrupt" mentality.

So fear of increased taxes or fear of loosing one's ability to vote for fee offices, what will be the passionate issue(s) in this process? Is a desire for a decrease in duplication of services (between city and county) or insuring term limits too mundane? Not sexy enough to get people riled up?

Just wondering...

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