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Here's the YouTube/Google Lawsuit We Expected
Submitted by Les Jones on Tue, 2007/03/13 - 9:34pm.
Viacom is suing Google over the use of unauthorized Viacom content on YouTube, which Google recently purchased. Mark Cuban, among others, predicted massive lawsuits over YouTube's copyright violations once Google's bank accounts became involved.
In other recent Google legal news, Google lost a case in Belgium which claimed that Google News violated newspaper's copyrights. However, Google won a case in which the U.S. court found that Google's choice of ads to display constituted protected speech and that Google could therefore choose not to run certain ads.
Incidentally, some of the Slashdot comments on Google cases were like these:
"Maybe Google should just delink the sites altogether, that way the offended media organizations can watch their traffic plummet to zero?"
"Well if they want to be assholes about it, why not just drop them off of the database completely? It seems to me that Google is in a good position now to offer a deal to sites; they can either agree to be crawled, and thus end up in a cache for 30 days or whatever, or they can just not end up in the index at all. Their option."
"If I'm Google, I turn the morons off and see how fast they come screaming back when their ad revenue plummets. Seriously, IT'S FREE FREAKING ADVERTISING. Google should be charging *them*."
"Google ought to just pull-out from indexing anyone who complains about their methods. You effectively disappear off of the Internet w/o Google, and these whiny complainers deserve exactly that. Maybe after they've lived in a black hole for a while they'll realize the benefit of having their free material easy for web users to find and view."
I find those attitudes scary. Google isn't always right, and they're not always going to be right. Substitute "Microsoft" or "the government" for "Google" and those comments are eerie. Google is on track to be more of a monopoly than Microsoft.
I note how you're not getting an answer here, Mr. Neal.
The question is similar to the question of TIVO. Will Sumner Redstone come after your beloved TIVO. There have been threats to do exactly that. Won't happen. This is the new distribution method. Some day there will not be video stores, just as you can no longer buy 8-tracks.
We have been here before with Betamax.
This is more about Viacom trying to force a special deal with Google than a real lawsuit. YouTube has a ten minute limit, so the excerpts are actually more like previews. This is helping Viacom not hurting them.
Also, you have to wonder if Sumner is pissed he didn't think of YouTube first. YouTube isn't going anywhere.
Submitted by Andy Axel on Wed, 2007/03/14 - 2:55pm.
The question is similar to the question of TIVO. Will Sumner Redstone come after your beloved TIVO. There have been threats to do exactly that. Won't happen. This is the new distribution method.
They're not going to give it away, and they made sure of that under the color of DMCA.
Plus, plenty of content providers have come after Tivo. It's hurt them. Tivo has had to make big concessions to get HDTV on their Series3 boxes. Home networking features (still available on the S2) may never show up on the S3. None of the S3's can do Multi-Room Viewing or Tivo2Go, and there's no timetable on when those might be available.
(That said, the ability to record 1080i/AC-3 programming right off the air and the dual tuner CableCard capability make the S3 worth it, at least to me.)
This is more about Viacom trying to force a special deal with Google than a real lawsuit. YouTube has a ten minute limit, so the excerpts are actually more like previews. This is helping Viacom not hurting them.
Viacom runs CMT, MTV, BET and VH1 -- music video outlets.
Most music videos are less than five minutes in length, well under the Google/YouTube limit. Those are "complete" works of art, not derivatives, not previews, not excerpts.
Still don't see why Viacom claims material harm here?
He called it a long time ago.
In the long run, I don't think it will matter. The tubes will rule.
I see the buggy whip people raising hell not understanding they should be getting in the automobile business.
Everything you thought you knew about copyrights will change.
Hey, Nine, heard back from the CTV folks yet?
Everything you thought you knew about copyrights will change.
How so?
I note how you're not getting an answer here, Mr. Neal.
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I'm not getting one either - what did ya hear from CTV, Nine?
what did ya hear from CTV, Nine?
But so far there have been 3582 viewers on YouTube Channel Nine. So even without posting the links people know where to go.
YouTube Channel Nine, where you can see your government in action. Whether they want you to or not.
Let me suggest once again that your chances for a response would be enhanced if you signed your real name rather than a psuedonym.
But whatever floats your boat.
I note how you're not getting an answer here, Mr. Neal.
The question is similar to the question of TIVO. Will Sumner Redstone come after your beloved TIVO. There have been threats to do exactly that. Won't happen. This is the new distribution method. Some day there will not be video stores, just as you can no longer buy 8-tracks.
We have been here before with Betamax.
This is more about Viacom trying to force a special deal with Google than a real lawsuit. YouTube has a ten minute limit, so the excerpts are actually more like previews. This is helping Viacom not hurting them.
Also, you have to wonder if Sumner is pissed he didn't think of YouTube first. YouTube isn't going anywhere.
DMCA pretty much changed the landscape already, and not in favor of end users.
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Recursive blogwhore.
They're not going to give it away, and they made sure of that under the color of DMCA.
Plus, plenty of content providers have come after Tivo. It's hurt them. Tivo has had to make big concessions to get HDTV on their Series3 boxes. Home networking features (still available on the S2) may never show up on the S3. None of the S3's can do Multi-Room Viewing or Tivo2Go, and there's no timetable on when those might be available.
(That said, the ability to record 1080i/AC-3 programming right off the air and the dual tuner CableCard capability make the S3 worth it, at least to me.)
Viacom runs CMT, MTV, BET and VH1 -- music video outlets.
Most music videos are less than five minutes in length, well under the Google/YouTube limit. Those are "complete" works of art, not derivatives, not previews, not excerpts.
Still don't see why Viacom claims material harm here?
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Recursive blogwhore.
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