Fri
Mar 9 2007
09:30 am

Actually the question is Who, not what.

Gingrich has admitted that he was having his own affair - cheating on his wife - while he lead the charge to impeach Bill Clinton for the affair with Monica.

The Republican presidential candidates - in which Gingrich places himself - keep making Gov. Romney look better and better.

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Les Jones's picture

Gingrich's hypocrisy goes to 11

From Washington Monthly:

But the most notorious of them all is undoubtedly Gingrich, who ran for Congress in 1978 on the slogan, "Let Our Family Represent Your Family." (He was reportedly cheating on his first wife at the time). In 1995, an alleged mistress from that period, Anne Manning, told Vanity Fair's Gail Sheehy: "We had oral sex. He prefers that modus operandi because then he can say, 'I never slept with her.'" Gingrich obtained his first divorce in 1981, after forcing his wife, who had helped put him through graduate school, to haggle over the terms while in the hospital, as she recovered from uterine cancer surgery. In 1999, he was disgraced again, having been caught in an affair with a 33-year-old congressional aide while spearheading the impeachment proceedings against President Clinton.

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mpower1952's picture

Thanks Les

It's good to have the facts brought up again. My memory is not the best but I did know these things about teh Newt. It's amazing how the MSM didn't report on it at the time, at least not to the extent that his family values followers ever found out.

Be a blessing to someone today.

chuckbowers's picture

knoxvillecurmudgeon so why

knoxvillecurmudgeon

so why the big deal now? he's a documented, card-crrying philanderer. i tyhot everybody knew.

Sandra Clark's picture

Ahhhh.

whatta guy!

CBT's picture

Newt is getting this out now

Newt is getting this out now so in a few months, he can say 'I've addressed this issue repeatedly, let's move on to issues which are important to America, like (fill in the blank)'.

As for Clinton, if I was married to Hillary...well, uh, hmm. I know this is a beaten dog, but my problem is Clinton lied about it. Spare me the unrelated Bush bashing of what you think W has lied about. Newt just portrayed one thing when something else was going on with him personally. If you forgive Bubba Bill (or don't care), what Newt did shouldn't trouble you. Some of you can surely find more issues of disagreement with Gingrich.

Rachel's picture

As for Clinton, if I was

As for Clinton, if I was married to Hillary...well, uh, hmm. I know this is a beaten dog, but my problem is Clinton lied about it. Spare me the unrelated Bush bashing of what you think W has lied about. Newt just portrayed one thing when something else was going on with him personally. If you forgive Bubba Bill (or don't care), what Newt did shouldn't trouble you.

Nice crack at Hillary there, CBT. I thought you had more class.

Clinton is a dog. Newt is a dog. I don't like the way either of them acted. And I do care - I think it shows some insight into character. If the Lewinsky scandal had broken during Clinton's first term, I would have thought hard about whether to vote for him again or not. I'm a liberal, so I wouldn't vote for Newt anyway, but I'd think very, very hard about voting for anyone with his pattern of behavior.

And yes, Clinton lied under oath. For that, he should have paid a penalty. However, impeachment was a ridiculous one - lying under oath about an affair does not rise to the standard of high crimes and misdemeanors.

But I have an additional problem with Newt - he's a standard barrier for the party of family values. Hypocrisy always bothers me, and Newt is rife with it.

mpower1952's picture

Was this a typo?

he's a standard barrier for the party of family values

Or a Freudian slip?

Be a blessing to someone today.

Rachel's picture

Typo or freudian slip?

Hmmmm, we blog, you decide.

Tess's picture

I am so glad this has been pointed out by the press at this time

Yes, several, perhaps a number of the Repugnant senators who led the charge with pitchforks and torches at the time of the impeachment were involved in extra-marital affairs.

JaHu's picture

And yes, Clinton lied under

And yes, Clinton lied under oath. For that, he should have paid a penalty. However, impeachment was a ridiculous one - lying under oath about an affair does not rise to the standard of high crimes and misdemeanors.

...and definitely didn't deserve a day in court.

Adrift in the Sea of Humility

CBT's picture

"Nice crack at Hillary

"Nice crack at Hillary there, CBT. I thought you had more class."

Geez Rachel, I would have thought you had more humor. It's just a little jab. I've certainly endured a zillion or so of those on this blog about W, the Bush twins, Cheney, Frist, etc., etc., generally without a whine or complaint.

On second thought, maybe it's not a jab. I really wouldn't want to be married to HRC. Of course, if she knew me, I'm sure the feeling would me mutual.

Number9's picture

CBT,

I've certainly endured a zillion or so of those on this blog about W, the Bush twins, Cheney, Frist, etc., etc., generally without a whine or complaint.

Back of the bus. But it's not that bad. The good thing is that it is roomy. You get your own seat. I've got the very back seat.

metulj's picture

Bullshit, CBT. Hillary

Bullshit, CBT. Hillary bashing is passe. As a matter of fact, it is merely a prop argument when all else fails for conservatives. Never approach an issue with one's intellect when you can just default to Clinton bashing instead.

True happiness is knowing you are a hypocrite. -- Ivor Cutler

Andy Axel's picture

Some of you can surely find

Some of you can surely find more issues of disagreement with Gingrich.

Like "Mr. Family Values" serving divorce papers on his wife while she was recovering from cancer surgery, also refusing to pay alimony or child support.

I know, that's quite apart from his record on policy, but he treats his duty to the American people in much the same manner as he treats his series of wives & mistresses.

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metulj's picture

I admit that I had sex

I admit that I had sex repeatedly during the 1990s.

True happiness is knowing you are a hypocrite. -- Ivor Cutler

cafkia's picture

Have you been tested?

It is really easy to say what you, or your spouse, would do in the absence of a real world test. I suspect that under the conditions that Clinton most would be sorely tempted and many, if not most, would succumb. Monica Lewinsky set her sights on Bill Clinton and took steps to entice him into a relationship of sorts. I have personally flunked a couple of tests of that sort and I refuse to piss off the universe by casting the first (or even the billionth) stone. If a 18 - 20 year old comes after my 51 year old ass, unless I find her completely unattractive for one reason or another, she is likely to be successful. At least, if history is any indicator, that is what I must conclude. Those of you who are saints or are married to saints may safely feel morally superior to me at this time.

CAFKIA

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Moderate Matt's picture

Well put CAFKIA. I'm happily

Well put CAFKIA.

I'm happily (most of the time) married, and being a simple human will constantly struggle with monogamy.

Its human nature everybody fights with it.

If you don't struggle with it, you're either lying or have reached a higher plain of existence.

Andy Axel's picture

Well, well, well. Via

Well, well, well.

Via Digby:

Newt the crybaby, in a snit over his treatment by the ethics committee, pushes for impeachment...

Gingrich's statement a month ago that "only a pattern of felonies" and not "a single human mistake" should constitute grounds for an impeachment inquiry. (When Gingrich made this statement, he assumed -- as did a lot of people -- that Independent Counsel Kenneth Starr would come up with a report charging a broad pattern of obstruction of justice on the part of the Clintons.)

Gingrich, the moving spirit behind the current strategy -- shared by the other House leaders -- is driven, according to colleagues, in some substantial part by vengeance. Not against Clinton. Not against what he might see as serious offenses. A major motivation for Gingrich, these people say, is his lasting resentment of his treatment by the House ethics committee. (After a long investigation, the committee in January 1997 voted to reprimand Gingrich for use of tax-exempt foundations for political purposes and recommended a financial penalty for providing "inaccurate information" to the committee, causing a lengthened investigation. The House voted its agreement on Jan. 21.)

Gingrich feels that the process against him was unfair, that even the Republicans on the ethics committee didn't protect him from the Democrats, who were on a tear, so why should he protect the president? This is an unusual rationale for proceeding to impeach a president.

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calloway's picture

Well, I am pretty sure Newt

Well, I am pretty sure Newt wasn't giving sworn statements to anyone, committing random acts of perjury, or shaking that swarthy finger at me and the rest of the American public on national tv around this time period .. At least Nixon left his misdeeds to his underlings (and had at least
enough shame to exit stage left).

metulj's picture

So, you are comparing

So, you are comparing Clinton to Nixon? Nixon had crimes committed in his name. Clinton got his cock sucked. And his wife continues to be married to him all the while. So, should Hilary have divorced Clinton and therefore violated all of God's laws vis marriage and been equal to McCain or Gingrich, or should she have kicked his ass for being an alley cat of the first order and stayed married to him? Hmmm?

Cognitive dissonance is a peculiar trait of wingnuts.

Note: I never voted for Bill Clinton and consider him to be one of the worst domestic policy presidents of the modern era.

True happiness is knowing you are a hypocrite. -- Ivor Cutler

Rachel's picture

Here's the thing about

Here's the thing about Guiliani & Gingrich: I don't give a damn that they've been divorced. Hell, so have I, along with millions of other Americans.

I do care about the way they treated the human beings they were married to along the way. And both of these guys showed zero class and a lot of callousness. And in Guiliani's case, not a lot of concern about how his "escapades" (as Dobson referred to Clinton/Lewinsky) would affect his children.

Although one can't help being a bit amused that the three top Democratic contenders all have long been married to their first spouses, while only one (Romney) of the leading Republican contenders can say that. It's that hypocrisy thing again.

And CBT, maybe I'm a bit touchy about Hillary-bashing. And please, criticize her policies and political/governmental abilities all you want.

But I bet you a month's pay that everytime somebody does the "ooh, she's an unattractive scary female" thing, the intelligent, independent female voters cringe right along with me. Along with perhaps the not-so-young and not-particularly-beautiful.

CBT's picture

"Hillary bashing is

"Hillary bashing is passe."

Really? And the election is still more than a year away. Now, if we were talking about Quayle, surely that would be out of date.

And, a slight joke about her looks and personality is "bashing". Geez.

"But I bet you a month's pay that everytime somebody does the "ooh, she's an unattractive scary female" thing, the intelligent, independent female voters cringe right along with me. Along with perhaps the not-so-young and not-particularly-beautiful."

I think you've perpetuated some sort of stereotype here.

Tamara Shepherd's picture

Me three!

Rachel and Bizgrrl, me three! I fall in that not-so-young and not-particularly-beautiful group, and I don't mind telling you that my first instinct is to tell folks like that to kiss my sagging...

But that wouldn't be very ladylike or maternal of me, either one, would it? So my insights of that sort would likely be dismissed as the rantings of some odd, if not bitter, old bird.

We'll just walk a little taller and straighter, then, and try to steer the commentary back to what is important in gauging this candidate's, or any candidate's, qualification for the job.

metulj's picture

"Hillary bashing is

"Hillary bashing is passe."

Really? And the election is still more than a year away. Now, if we were talking about Quayle, surely that would be out of date.

I guess you are right if the bashing is substantive, which it is not. Far be it to have a position on anything that needs facts and/or logic to back it up.

Note: Wouldn't vote for HRC on a dare.

True happiness is knowing you are a hypocrite. -- Ivor Cutler

bizgrrl's picture

I'm with Rachel on this one.

I'm with Rachel on this one. Strong, intelligent, independent women still have a tough time integrating into certain male dominated fields. I admire Hillary. I find it sad that some people have to "joke" about her looks or personality to be critical of her. Many times a "joke" is just a way to get away with saying something rude, crude, whatever, and not having to defend the statement.

JaHu's picture

I admire Hillary. I find it

I admire Hillary. I find it sad that some people have to "joke" about her looks or personality to be critical of her.

It is sad, but she is running for president and should be able to handle whatever criticism that is being thrown at her. If not, foes, or even other countries, will see this a sign of weakness and attack it. Bill, was masterful at handling criticism. Bush on the other hand, doesn't seem to even comprehend that he is even being criticized.

Adrift in the Sea of Humility

bizgrrl's picture

I do believe Hillary can

I do believe Hillary can handle whatever criticism thrown at her. She, her daughter, and husband have handled an enormous amount of personal criticisms for over twelve years. I would prefer more relevant criticism.

Les Jones's picture

cafkia:

Good points. That's why I've said that adultery per se isn't sufficient to disqualify someone from public office.

Andy:

Like I said above, I think Gingrich is an enormous hypocrite, but I also think he was the victim of an ugly political hitjob vis-a-vis the massive ethics charges against him. Despite all the furor all of the ethics charges were eventually dropped.

You may also recall that someone eavesdropped on his cell phone calls and then made the tapes public. So, yeah, Gingrich was on the receiving end of some political shenanigans himself. It wasn't a simple case of Republicans=meanies and Democrats=choir boys. There was bad behavior on both sides.

www.lesjones.com

Tess's picture

The problem is

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Factchecker's picture

Spare me the unrelated Bush

Spare me the unrelated Bush bashing of what you think W has lied about.

8 hours later:

It's just a little jab. I've certainly endured a zillion or so of those on this blog about W, the Bush twins, Cheney, Frist, etc., etc., generally without a whine or complaint.

Not to mention that lies of omission, deception, hypocisy, living a lie, tacit lies, etc. are apparently fine with you.

(I'm talking about Newt, the one who drummed that leaders needed to be held to a "higher standard," though I guess it obviously wasn't intended to be GOP-inclusive.)

Moderate Matt's picture

In all fairness, Newt did

In all fairness, Newt did resign once news of his affair became public. He never denied it. He did exactly what he said Clinton should do: resign and let the country move on...

I'm not defending his affair and his hypocrisy is sickening, but once found out, the guy took the high road. More than we can say for other GOP jackasses like Tom Delay and Dick Cheney.

Rachel's picture

He did exactly what he said

He did exactly what he said Clinton should do: resign and let the country move on...

Then how come he's back?

JaHu's picture

Then how come he's

Then how come he's back?

Excellent point Rachel! We're still moving on.

The fact still remains. If Newt hadn't stuck his neck out as being one of the key players in the witch hunt, against Clinton's affair. While at the same time having an affair himself. This may not have had the negative coverage that it's receiving now. but he did, and it is, and he should pay the price for it. He's the one claiming Clinton didn't deserve to stay in office, because of the affair, not Clinton! So let him be held to his own standard.

Adrift in the Sea of Humility

Factchecker's picture

No he didn't

His affair was never widely known (and not exposed by the "librul" MM) and I don't remember any public confessions at all. Can you cite one?

Virtually all of the analysis of the day centered on Gingrich's failure to lead the GOP in the November elections that year.

ultron's picture

"In all fairness, Newt did

"In all fairness, Newt did resign once news of his affair became public. He never denied it. He did exactly what he said Clinton should do: resign and let the country move on..."

That is completely incorrect. He resigned after the GOP did poorly in the 98 elections, and he was facing fallout over the book advance ethics thing. There were rumors of affairs that Newt declined to discuss. You're thinking of Bob Livingston, probably.

WhitesCreek's picture

That's not incorrect

I have another word for it.

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