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Dec 11 2006
12:15 pm

Is anyone out there using Charter's HD DVR? Have you used Tivo before and how does it compare? Can you record two channels at the same time? Can you watch live TV while recording something else? Can you watch a recording and record two channels at the same time? (DirecTV's Tivo can do all this, not that anyone really needs it.)

How is Charter's HD service overall? Do the local analog channels still have a crappy picture? Is all local network programming available on Charter's local HD channels, even if it isn't HD so you get a better digital picture?

I've been using DirecTV for about three years now with their integrated receiver/Tivo. I love DirecTV's all-digital signal and the Tivo brand DVR, but DirecTV hasn't updated it and won't be offering an HD version and will be discontinuing it in a couple of years.

So right now you have to use DirecTV's proprietary HD DVR if you want HD, and they are backordered. DirecTV also requires a new or updated dish and a new receiver/DVR and they don't have local HD channels yet. So I'm thinking about switching back to Charter cable. Will I be sorry? (Thinking about getting an HDTV, obviously.)

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Michael's picture

I can't speak about Charter.

I can't speak about Charter. But I can tell you that I checked in to getting an HD TiVo and found that the only HD choice was a $799 box. I went with the Comcast DVR instead.
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SayUncle's picture

I got the Dishnetwork DVR

I got the Dishnetwork DVR (after using TiVo on DirecTV) and it's pretty cool. I can't imagine Charter's being much different.

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Number9's picture

I have the 80 GB model from

I have the 80 GB model from Charter and it works great. Record two shows at once and can still be watching a show that was already recorded. So you have three shows in process, two recording and one being played. You can record one show and watch another also.

Decent user interface and reliable hardware. In a years time I have power cycled maybe five times to reboot the system mostly after a prolonged power failure.

Two thumbs up put I wish I had the 160 GB model. I have the Moxi model from Motorola. Mine is not HD.

Paul Witt's picture

I also can't comment on

I also can't comment on Charter's box, nor can I compare it to Tivo, but Knology's HD DVR receiver is pretty nice. It's the Scientific Atlanta Explorer 8000HD. It has two receivers built-in so I can record two shows at once, playback another that I previously recorded and, if I'm that desperate, I can even pipe another signal to another TV using the "copy to VCR" feature.

I switched from DirecTV to Knology about 2 years ago. Mostly just to save a few dollars and have 1 bill to pay instead of 3. Having recently upgraded to HD, I'm glad to be back on cable.

I'm pretty sure that DirecTV just found out recently that they're not going to be allowed to carry local HD channels. Their HD lineup isn't that great as it is, you have to upgrade your dish and receiver to get HD and if you want a DVR it's way too expensive. The only reason I can think of to go with DirecTV for HD is for the HD NFL Sunday Ticket package. I have the standard Sunday Ticket package (go Bengals) and I really wish the games were in HD.

My advice would be to go with Charter and get the DVR.

Paul Witt's picture

Oh and yes, regular TV will

Oh and yes, regular TV will look awful on Charter. All non-HDTV will look awful. You'll find yourself watching some crappy movie on an HD channel rather than a movie you'd actually like on Starz2 because it just looks better.

R. Neal's picture

Thanks, all. #9, does

Thanks, all. #9, does Charter's DVR have "season pass" (that's what Tivo calls it) where you can tell it to record all episodes of a show? Do they keep their schedule updated to allow for extended broadcasts or showings at a different time? Tivo is pretty good about this, but on Sunday all bets are off on the networks because of sports.

Number9's picture

Thanks, all. #9, does

Thanks, all. #9, does Charter's DVR have "season pass" (that's what Tivo calls it) where you can tell it to record all episodes of a show? Do they keep their schedule updated to allow for extended broadcasts or showings at a different time? Tivo is pretty good about this, but on Sunday all bets are off on the networks because of sports.

The option is called "Record Series". You do it once and you are done. The schedule is accurate and only gets fake out by a show staring two minutes early like WATE news at 6:00PM. I guess WATE doesn't want their news recorded?

They also have the equivalent of "Season Pass" for Sports. It works well on Pay for View also.

Andy Axel's picture

If you want to cut through

If you want to cut through the BS to get a DirecTV DVR, get a quote from Charter and then see if DirecTV will match it.

Then call up to cancel your service and see what they say about that "backorder" issue.

A buddy of mine at work has been a customer of DirecTV for about a decade. He got jerked around by DirecTV about getting one of their DVRs, so he's switching to Comcast. (If he'd wanted to stay, DirecTV was offering all kinds of incentives for him to stay, including reduced fees for premium channels and a $250 credit to defray the cost of the DVR. Comcast's deal turned out to be much better though -- 3 digital TV DVRs for $75/mo inclusive. Plus all premium channels free for 12 months, no commitment.)

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CBT's picture

Like #9, I have Charter

Like #9, I have Charter Moxi. On mine, I get regular and HD channels. I had Tivo before. I like the Moxi software better. It seems more advanced and has more features. I think DVR's are the greatest invention since color. Watching what you want, when you want, speeding through commercials and also the ability to manipulate live TV, is just unbeatable.

R. Neal's picture

Chad, thanks for the info

Chad, thanks for the info re. "Moxie". I found their website and it looks like it has a lot of great features. I don't know why Charter can't put that and other info on their website.

Opinari's picture

DishNetwork

I'm with Uncle on the DVR front. I use DishNetwork with HDTV and 2 DVRs with a third video-only unit. Other than the occasional "fooled-you-we're-actually-showing-something-else-this-hour", I've been quite pleased.

The signal is crisp, even during most storms. I'd like more capacity on my DVR, but we plan to use a portable device called PocketDish for that (think iPod meets DVR).

And the cost, when integrated into our phone and data package, is about $55/month with the DVR fees waived. That's about 30% less than our local cable provider, so it was a no-brainer for us.

Greg Baker's picture

Ability to use wireless with the Charter HD DVR box?

I am using the Tivo wireless for updates, etc. and don't want to mess with using an analog phoneline. Can anyone tell me if the Charter box supports wireless or does it use only a phone line?

Brian's picture

Greg Baker: The charter box

Greg Baker:

The charter box that i have doesn't use wireless or a phone line...Charter offers internet through the cable, so it uses the high speed internet through the cable to do its communications.

Anonymous1's picture

Terrible!

I have the HD Moxi from Charter and have had nothing but problems with it. In fact Charter is having to come out tomorrow and give me my third DVR in the last two years. HD channels are very unreliable, the audio cuts out every couple of seconds. This also occurs on anything that is recorded. OnDemand also has problems quite often and says that the system is unavailable even though Charter says that there are no problems. The last time Charter came out the worker said that they had nothing but problems with Moxi. When I contacted Charter today because my box died after a service outage yesterday, they told me that they were finally getting rid of Moxi. I know that they are going to be having Tivo back but I'm not sure if all of their DVRs will be Tivo or if that will have to be something you pay extra for.

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