"The defendant has no prior criminal history and has performed many charitable works," U.S. District Judge Thomas Phillips said of the Market Square businessman turned convicted drug and money laundering conspirator. "However, the court cannot ignore that many of the defendant's good works were funded by drug money.
I saw the quote above on the front page of the local paper of record and it struck me as assinine.
To me, the fact that Scott chose to use his ill-gotten gains for the good of his community should be a positive thing and if anything, would be used to justify cutting him some slack in sentancing. Instead, the Judge implies that it would have been better for Scott to have bought a bright red Lamborghini and some bodacious ta-tas for several women of questionable morals.
It would appear that this judge believes that all drug money is bad money and can never be good. That being the case, he should be actively advocating the elimination of all the seizure laws associated with the idiotic War on Drugs. Obviously, you don't want cops or the public being contaminated by the bad drug money they seize or the bad drug property. Once it has been tainted with drug association, there is probably nothing to do but foist it upon bad people who have done enough bad things to deserve having all that bad money and bad stuff in their lives.
In all seriousness, is this not an abuse of logic and reason? Is it not completely counterintuitive to punish someone for the good that they have done? If anyone else should find themselves doing something illegal, won't they know that there is no way possible for any good to come of it so they might as well go whole hog with whatever nefarious behavior they desire? Or am I missing something?
I admit, I could be missing something so, I request that anyone who can, please provide me a coherent justification for the good that Scott did to be a reason for more harsh punishment. Actually, feel free to not restrict it to Scott. Point out any fair and just occasions when someone's good works cause them to receive harsher punishment. Keep in mind,that you will have to have a pretty well structured argument as I am already biased to see this of proof of judicial idiocy.
CAFKIA
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OK, I'll start
I request that anyone who can, please provide me a coherent justification for the good that Scott did to be a reason for more harsh punishment.
Let's start with your premise. I've read the newspaper story three times now, and I fail to see anywhere where the judge or the journalist says or suggests that West got a harsher sentence than he would have had he bought a sport car and silicon implants with his money.
You seem to be suggesting that the fact that he used some of the money for purposes that you admire should justify a more lenient sentence. Fair enough, but more lenient than what? More lenient than he got, or more lenient than he could have received under the federal sentencing guidelines? If the former, then you merely have an argument with the opinion of Judge Phillips, and that's fine - that's what we have Courts of Appeals for.
If you are suggesting that his sentence was harsher than the law called for, however, you would appear to be way off base. According to this story West DID get a break:
Under federal law, he should have faced a minimum mandatory 10-year prison term. But his lack of a prior criminal record and the U.S. Attorney's Office's decision to count his help in untangling the financial state of his Market Square properties as official cooperation netted West the chance for a break.
So the 75 months is significantly less than the minimum sentence that should have been imposed under federal law.
Take issue with the drug laws all you want - they are still the law. Your suggestion that West was punished more harshly because of what he did with the money than he would have been otherwise strikes me as a straw man argument, or at least one which is not supported by the facts of the case.
Bingo, Ringo
Scott was exempted from the minimum sentencing because of his cooperation and given a year less than the prosecutors sought. Cafkia's premise is baseless. The judge was simply explaining why he was opting for a sentence somewhere between what the defense and prosecution requested.
I admit, I could be missing
I admit, I could be missing something so, I request that anyone who can, please provide me a coherent justification for the good that Scott did to be a reason for more harsh punishment.
I don't think you're missing something so much as you are making something out of the statement that isn't there. I read it as saying that doing good doesn't excuse how your acts were financed.
~m.
Michael, I understand what
Michael, I understand what you said, and agree.
However, it might be argued that what the Wests did was do well, rather than good. It's not like they opened a soup kitchen or endowed scholarships for kids in Lonsdale -- they set about to fulfil their hearts' desire, which was to become Knoxville movers and shakers; Beautiful People. They probably had kind hearts, too, but mostly what they wanted was to be recognized and rewarded. And to own a chunk of real estate.
"beautiful people"
The first time I went in Earth to Old City years ago and more recently World Grotto my first impression was they were for the downtown "beautiful people" like MP writers or Tomato Head vegans, but I was wrong. I always found Scott very down to earth and welcoming to everyone, completly dispelling the stereotype. I'm not sure if I've talked to Bernadette much, but I feel very sad for her. Stacey
"the downtown "beautiful
"the downtown "beautiful people" like MP writers"
Ummm, I was a MP writer for what, 10 or 12 years? Never even felt cute.
My take on what the judge
My take on what the judge said was that he was addressing the many West supporters' contention that they are fine people -- an acknowledgement that their input was heard.
Even if pot were as legal as milk, money laundering wouldn't be. And that's the prevailing charge here. By all accounts, Bernadette's fate has nothing to do with how the money got dirty.
~m.
Good deeds
" Point out any fair and just occasions when someone's good works cause them to receive harsher punishment"
I can't think of specific examples right now but this calls to mind the old adage "no good deed goes unpunished".
Though that's not what the judge said. He said they should be treated equally. Although to my untrained eye it does look like Scott West got a break.
How much time do you think
How much time do you think Scott West should have served Cafkia?
The relevant part of this
The relevant part of this quote to me is "However, the court cannot ignore that many of the defendant's good works were funded by drug money".
We use an "end justifies the means" argument daily so as to not drive ourselves crazy. We kill people in wars but, for a good cause. We pollute our air but, for the sake of the economy. We do all sorts of clearly negative shit so that we can function as a society socially and financially. ~m, how is that different from this situation? When I read that quoted sentance, it appears to me that the judge is very specifically arguing against an ends justification of the means. I have no idea where my friend got the information but said friend informed me, well prior to my making this blog, that the sentancing guidelines were 77 months minimum and I forget which maximum. Things which could apparently be considered in straying outside those guidelines included willingness to cooperate. While there was a minor deviation from the minimum(that my friend claimed) it is minor enough to indicate that the judge is generally against an "ends" argument. Given the reliance upon precedence in our legal system, why could this not be used in all manner of cases where there appears to be upfront damage that is alleged to be ameliorated by the results?
Beanster, your point is pretty strong. I certainly can't argue it. I imagine that it would have to be Scott or Bernadette who takes it on and I doubt that is going to happen. Still, the way everything, every organism, learns is by the punishment of undesirable behavior, the rewarding of desirable behavior, and the ignoring of neutral behavior.
My preference would be that the judge simply not comment on what they did with the money in justifying the sentancing.
I do not personally think that any of the laws around the unregulated recreational pharmaceutical industry make any sense. I think anyone in prison for a non violent act related to that industry should probably be released. I do consider the intentional or negligent manufacture or distribution of product that contains harmful substances that may not be reasonalbly assumed to be in the product to be a violent act. If your question #9 is deeper than that, get more specific in the asking.
For any of you who do not know, I know and consider the Wests to be friends. I have strongly disagreed with some positions they have taken on downtown issues in the past and strongly agreed with others.
CAFKIA
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harsh punishments
"Good works" was the legal spin of West supporters. Whatever "good works" you want to construe from the West's actions are slammed by the unfair advantage it represents against the hard work of competing businesses (who don't want to look bad in speaking up.) Add the insult of tax evasion, and we all got screwed here.
I love the Preservation Pub and all the style this family has brought to downtown, but loose the blinders here folks.
Perhaps the bigger crime is that our society doesn't want to examine the fate of those sentenced to our correctional institutions, which have less to do with corrections and more to do with avoiding a hideous reality of social manipulations too unspeakable to contemplate during our peaceful afternoons.
Face it, if Scott was sentenced to be locked up beneath the bar for 6 years, nobody would raise a peep.
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