Sun
Oct 18 2015
06:21 pm
By: Mike Knapp
Knox Schools' class schedule changes could save $6M
100 teacher positions lost, fewer electives taken during high school, more classes taught by fewer teachers, split-up plan time for teachers, science lab instruction?, more students per class, say goodbye to dual enrollment.
Outmaneuvered, run it like a business. Only one side of the balance sheet is seen, social investment, social cost-benefit analysis, is scorned.
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I hope there is serious
I hope there is serious discussion on this topic. After reading a bit on block schedules vs traditional, I don't think this change should be made just to save money. Why would this change save $6M and reduce teaching staff by 100?
You'd think having more
(in reply to bizgrrl)
You'd think having more classes would require more teachers, not less.
Each student would have 6
(in reply to Anonymous2)
Each student would have 6 classes a year instead of 8 classes a year. I'd guess that's how they have fewer teachers.
Block Scheduling
(in reply to bizgrrl)
Even if costs were equal with block scheduling and the 6 period schedule, the four period block schedule is not practical. There are classes such as Biology that benefit from a 90 minute block. The extended time gives time for being in the lab etc. However, there are other subjects such as math, which would make more sense being taught in 45 to 60 minute year long classes. Some kind of hybrid schedule seems to be more practical.
mld
My guess
is a reduction in planning time. It was an unintended consequence of block scheduling to allow teachers who got one period daily for planning to suddenly go from teaching 5/6 of the day to teaching 3/4. I knew one teacher/coach who had an "administrative internship" at a high school during the lunch block (to inspect bathrooms and bushes where kids might lurk) plus a planning period. He was actually teaching only two periods per day -- or halftime.
Planning is important, but it should not be 25 percent of a teacher's day.
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(in reply to Sandra Clark)
Sounds like the exception rather than the rule. Most teachers barely have time to plan at home late at night, let alone freelance bathroom patrol.
Classes would be reduced from 8 to 6. that's the savings.
Please
(in reply to Sandra Clark)
Do you really think that teachers have too much time to plan? If so, you need to spend more time in schools.
What other job
has 25 percent planning time? Certainly not middle or elementary schools.
Software development.
(in reply to Sandra Clark)
Software development.
You are displaying your
(in reply to Sandra Clark)
You are displaying your ignorance.
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(in reply to Stick)
In fairness to Sandra, the school system is deceptive to even call that block of time during which a teacher doesn't teach a class a "planning period." That isn't when most teachers' planning takes place.
That's my point.
(in reply to Tamara Shepherd)
That's my point.
**shrug**
(in reply to Sandra Clark)
My practice as a lawyer is about 50-60% planning for representation, and about 40-50% actual representation.
Journalists
(in reply to Sandra Clark)
Journalists and writers have and use wayyyyyyyyy more planning time than teachers. They have a bunch of neat terms to define it as well so it looks like they're actually working, even when they're not. Plus, it's a much easier job.
Are you talking about the one
(in reply to Sandra Clark)
Are you talking about the one period when they have multiple parent meetings, an IEP meeting, papers to copy, papers to grade, grades to enter in the computer, parent emails to answer, grab a bite to eat, pee and do it all with constant interruptions?
Almost every job has
(in reply to Sandra Clark)
Almost every job has significant planning time. I'll bet your own job is way more than 25% planning time. The exception might be repetitive manufacturing jobs, but even in that case, people in offices somewhere spend 100% of their time planning and refining the manufacturing process, so that those working on the line have explicit instructions for their repetitive actions. To add to that, successful manufacturing companies recognize that those laborers on the line have brains, and take some of their time to get feedback on the process in order to improve it. Even ditch-diggers spend time planning, because whoever drew up the plans didn't have knowledge of what the shovels would actually find, so the ditch-diggers have to spend time figuring out how to actually accomplish the task.
For teachers, as much as the proverbial bean-counters would like to reduce the profession to be like assembly-line production, it doesn't work that way. For the sake of the human children who are supposed to be the recipients of the teaching, I would hope it never does work that way. Certainly if little Susie is having trouble learning a subject, her parents sure as hell aren't going to be pleased if the teacher indicates that time available for figuring out how to help Susie is going to be limited to an hour a day, divided by the total number of students on the teacher's roll, minus all the time required for grading papers, patrolling halls and bathrooms, and such.
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Secondary-level teachers (middle and high school) have up to 200 students each whose progress they're to track. By that I mean check their work, input their grades, crunch their voluminous test data.
Given that around 15% of KCS students have some sort of disability either physical, intellectual, or behavioral, around 30-ish of such teachers' students have Individual Education Plans (IEPs). I know my teacher-daughter does. Parents of these students, in particular, request many, many face-to-face conferences, e-mail contacts, and phone calls with their children's teachers. And of course, there are also similar requests, though fewer of them, from the parents of the other 170-ish students such teachers have.
Then there's time required for Dr. McIntyre's cherished Professional Learning Communities. Teachers attend these meetings by grade level, by subject area, and by grade level AND subject area many times monthly--before school, after school, and during their so-called planning time.
Finally, there are the before and after school student club meetings teachers lead voluntarily, as well as the dances and sports events teachers are required to chaperone.
My daughter is now in her third year of teaching and she continues to spend 11 or 12 hours daily in the school building, then bring work home.
If block scheduling has resulted in teachers presently twiddling their thumbs, I shudder to think...
(Clarification: A middle school teacher will have up to 200 students when he/she teaches three classes of 33-ish students each day, then another three classes of a different 33-ish students on the next day, for a total of six differing classes of students over the course of any two days. This practice of asking teachers to see a given class of students just every other day is in place in some--but not all--middle schools, usually for science and social studies teachers and usually in an effort to afford teachers of the all-important subjects of English and math more instructional time with their students. But woe are the affected science and social studies teachers consequently saddled with such large headcounts.)
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BTW, although the KNS story mentions it, no one here has: The recommendation to change block scheduling to "traditional" scheduling originated with a presentation from The Parthenon Group to the BOE about a year and a half ago, at the BOE's March 10, 2014 work session.
Anyone interested in doing so may read the minutes of that meeting at the KCS site, here.
Read previous conversation at KnoxViews about the March 10 meeting here.
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(in reply to Tamara Shepherd)
We actually mentioned in when we broke this story a day or so before the KNS report. I also noted it on my blog.
My bad, just realized that you meant it hadn't been specifically mentioned here.
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(in reply to mdonila)
Right, I just meant that no one in this thread had mentioned it (maybe because so many people can't link to the KNS site).
But yeah, we know you're thorough, Mike :-)
Plan Time
(in reply to Tamara Shepherd)
Thanks for your comments. There is no school system in Tn. that gets more bang for the buck than Knox County. Most teachers, like my daughter, do a lot more than can be done in regular school hours. Grading papers, tutoring students, meeting with parents, planning the prom etc. are all part of the day of a teacher. They deserve the plan time and a lot more respect than they get from the newspaper and others. Also, Knox County ranks third in the ability to pay teachers out of all the state's school systems. The last time I checked, Knox County ranked about 35th in teacher pay. That is a joke! Knox County needs to do whatever it takes to raise the pay of teachers. We are losing many good teachers to systems that pay more.
Mike Daugherty
So it's another manufactured
So it's another manufactured Faustian bargain of "Give-teachers- raises - or - cut - something - so - students - go without - what's - best..." from the McIntyre administration.
That tired old tune gets played more often than BTO's "Taking Care of Business" on a podunk classic rock station.
For all the taxpayer dollars he spends on PR, for-profit consultants, and no-cost "advising" from local image marketeers, you'd think he'd come up with something a bit more original.
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To summarize, the amount of so-called "planning time" available to teachers now is inadequate for all the administrative minuata other than planning they must attend and causes them to work many hours off the clock.
A decision to further reduce the time during which teachers aren't assigned any class would only result in their performing even more work on their own time, without pay.
It should be no surprise that privatizers like The Parthenon Group support the notion of more free labor.
Disparity
Tamara -- This thread qualifies as one on which I should not have engaged ... but how do you rationalize the disparity of planning time for high school teachers (1 of 4 class periods per day) versus planning time for elementary and middle school teachers -- here in Knox County? It's certainly not 25 percent of the day.
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(in reply to Sandra Clark)
Like I said, Sandra, some middle schools delivering four classes daily to students are offering their teachers 1 of 4 class periods per day for planning. (Look for my private message on this subject.)
As to your question generally, though, as to why we might want to afford elementary teachers so much time to attend administrative minutiae is that the diagnostic work performed by teachers at this level is just exceedingly important to students' success in all the grades to follow.
If teachers (and parents, obviously) don't get their students on track at this age level, we'll play hell down the road trying to help a middle school or high school student master the elementary school skills s/he never quite mastered earlier.
Tha's just my personal opinion, not any regurgitation of what the "experts" say, but it's nevertheless why I'm all for giving teachers the time and the tools in the early grades: To preclude crises later.