Fri
Nov 28 2014
01:53 pm
By: R. Neal
"We don't need a New Coke formula. The problem is we've been out there trying to peddle Tab and RC Cola." Mississippi Democratic Party chairman Rickey Cole
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I am constantly amazed at how
I am constantly amazed at how bad Democrats are at messaging. Howard Dean showed them the way and they stabbed him in the back and tossed him aside. It's like the party is run by Republican moles sometimes.
Exactly!
(in reply to WhitesCreek)
Exactly!
A generation ago..
Repubs went to working class voters and told them that the govt is taking their money and giving it to people who dont work.
Demos need to tell these people that wall street is taking their money, and keeping it for themselves, and making sure that they dont make any more..
There's little room for liberals to win
outside of urban areas in the south and elsewhere without the working class white vote. This is why Rickey Cole is spot on channeling progressive economic populism. Ruy Teixeira's rising american electorate still applies somewhat at the macro, presidential level but in places like Missisippi and Tennessee it's fair to say that the RAE won't be able to overcome the great red wall outside of a few urban centers for a while eg, several House election cycles. This debate about direction is evidenced by the sides lining up behind Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders versus Hillary Clinton. We see it as teachers when we look at Obama and his support of Arne Duncan in their teacher union bashing, attacks on public schools, support of charters, and their testing fetish to measure teacher and school performance. The real solutions to structural problems will cost serious money as structural racism, underemployment and poverty aren't solved by comparatively cheap solutions like Teachers for America and iPads for everyone. Unfortunately the big, substantive policy changes that need to occur won't until more progressives are elected to the senate and congress, not just the presidency. The same applies at the state level. Perhaps the next state party chair will get a better handle on these dynamics than Roy Herron.
Lux at Democratic Strategist has a good take on it.
Yep.
(in reply to Mike Knapp)
The county strategy is exactly what it will take, because that's what the Republicans did to get where they are now. Control state legislatures after the census, and you have the power to gerrymander your way to a House majority in Congress, with a core of seats so safe you don't have to compromise with anyone about anything.
The Democrats must organize at the local level, if not to compete in every county, at least to peel away every county that can conceivably be flipped in the next election. There are districts gerrymandered to be impenetrably safe, but there are bound to be others where demographics are shifting fast enough that, with good turnout, they can be 'overrun.' That's where offering a message that's more than a capitulation to the Republicans' fictional universe becomes really important.
...and one reason why Obama's recent executive action is a stroke of genius. Knowing the emboldened Republican Congress will do little to compromise on anything anyway, he's put them on their heels with a critical shifting demographic before they even have a chance to get started. There are almost no scenarios where the Republicans come out looking good to Hispanic voters, and certainly none where they're seen as more sympathetic than the President. Now, if someone will just wave some smelling salts in front of the Democratic party, they can pick that ball up and run with it, which could lead to some major losses for Republicans down-ballot in 2016.
Good Stuff
(in reply to Mike Knapp)
Once again, you nailed it. The only quibble I have is that the RAE thesis isn't nearly as solid as Democrats would like to believe. Two examples:
One, the Millenials may lean toward progressive values now, but that is by no means fixed. Imagine what a generational analysis would have looked like in 1970, and you'll see where I'm coming from... As they age, there is a pretty good chance that they'll become more conservative.
Two, the Latino vote is solidly in the Democratic camp. However, the fastest growing evangelical churches in the US are catering to the Latino community. They could easily become cultural warriors.
My point is that the only way to make the RAE thesis a reality is for Democrats to deliver. The Third Way, Clinton wing will not do so with a steady diet of neoliberal policies. The only way to make this happen is to rebuild the party at the ground level and make Democratic politicians fear their base. I, for one, look forward to caucusing for Bernie Sanders up here in the flatlands.
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(in reply to Stick)
Roger that; agree on the potential points of implosion for dems wrt the RAE.