Tue
Sep 19 2006
11:32 am
By: CBT

The Music City Star makes its inaugural run. Commuter train is now running in Nashville. Story and blog comments (part of most Tennessean headlines now) here (link...)

Factchecker's picture

Hooray for Nashville!

What would it take to get us one? 

Socialist With A Gold Card's picture

My guess

  1. Significantly greater urban (and suburban) density than we currently have
  2. A boatload of money
  3. Some way for it to make profits for real estate developers, since that's the only way projects get approved by our local gummint.

It sure would be cool, though.

--Socialist With A Gold Card


"I'm a socialist with a gold card. I firmly believe we need a revolution; I'm just concerned that I won't be able to get good moisturizer afterwards." --Brett Butler

 

Factchecker's picture

That's the one

Some way for it to make profits for real estate developers, since that's the only way projects get approved by our local gummint.

Bingo to my rhetorical question.  Wouldn't it be neat if a rail could run down the interstate divider like on a slot car track?  Getting on and off might present some problems, though.  There's also one heck of a freight rail infrastructure already in place around here.

I'd be happy if Knox city/county just budgeted enough ahead to install sidewalks.  Shouldn't that be low tech simple enough?  Even that amount of cost is apparently too precious for our fat asses to get the option to walk.

Socialist With A Gold Card's picture

Slot cars

Wouldn't it be neat if a rail could run down the interstate divider like on a slot car track?  Getting on and off might present some problems, though.

The Metrorail system in DC follows I-66 way out into the 'burbs by running right down the median. At a station, the platforms sit in the median with overhead pedestrian bridges leading to the station and parking lots. It's pretty cool.

There's also one heck of a freight rail infrastructure already in place around here.

I don't think the difference in rail gauge would permit mixed use, but it sure would be a cool use of existing infrastructure.

I'd be happy if Knox city/county just budgeted enough ahead to install sidewalks.

Agreed.

--Socialist With A Gold Card


"I'm a socialist with a gold card. I firmly believe we need a revolution; I'm just concerned that I won't be able to get good moisturizer afterwards." --Brett Butler

 

Andy Axel's picture

Nashvegas Mass Transit

Just another comment...

My understanding is that to expand the transit system around Nashville (to areas like Franklin and Goodlettsville) would require the city to negotiate rights-of-way with CSX. Either that or build their own lines -- which is even more expensive in the long term.

Something's gotta give, however. You can't just keep widening interstates indefinitely. In this case, I don't know that the Music City Star is going to be a real success, but it's an important milestone. For starters, as a resident of southern Davidson, there aren't many points east that I'd want or need to access, and once I got there, the local transit isn't exactly convenient. It's not like I could just hop off and get where I wanted to go on foot. Lebanon, Mt. Juliet, & Hermitage aren't exactly pedestrian-friendly, y'know.

If I lived out in the eastern burbs, though, I'd probably consider using heavy rail to get to work, especially if my employer would subsidize it (like they do for parking today).

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smalc's picture

I don't think the difference

I don't think the difference in rail gauge would permit mixed use, but it sure would be a cool use of existing infrastructure.

The Nashville train uses existing rail lines. I am not sure if they were able to use the rails as-is, or if they had to change the gauge and only use the existing bed.

redmondkr's picture

Rail gauge is no problem. 

Rail gauge is no problem.  The standard is 56.5 inches.  Narrow gauge is pretty rare in the U.S. and broad gauge went out shortly after The Civil War.  One of the biggest problems with existing passenger rail that uses freight infrastructure is the fact that the owners of the railroads are not sharing their resources as specified by the laws that created Amtrak.  Passenger trains were afforded priority over freight in order to maintain reasonable schedules but railroad dispatchers lean toward moving freight.  Nobody in the present administration seems to care.  Instead, they seem to want Amtrak to just go away.

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