Apr 23 2008
06:29 pm
By: bizgrrl

I guess positive reinforcement doesn't work.

sean's picture

Words are powerful, but

Words are powerful, but just think if there were pictures to prove it! Here's to freedom of speech, religion, and the American Idol finalist performing at the Festival.

WhitesCreek's picture

Uh...No it's not (imagine British accent)

Just another commercial announcement from our advertisement department...

Those folks...Always making things up.

Frazoo's picture

Yes, listening to Franklin

Yes, listening to Franklin Graham can be excruciating, but that's just plain mean.

sean's picture

No, really

Brentwood's Phil Stacey from last season American Idol fame is one of the Festival's performers.

Sandra Clark's picture

I heard

I heard that Mike Ragsdale has finagled into the program -- to introduce Franklin, I suppose. Doubt he can sing. -- s.

SteveMule's picture

A good place

yes, this is a good place for all sinners - even Ragsdale.

Take Care, Be Good and don't play in the street!


JaHu's picture

So... does this sign mean

So... does this sign mean they are giving Satan top billing?

bizgrrl's picture

Exactly! That is what I

Exactly! That is what I thought. Why didn't they put Heaven is Real in big letters? Does formal religion always go for the fear factor?

JaHu's picture

"Does formal religion always

"Does formal religion always go for the fear factor?"

That's how they rake in the big bucks.

WhitesCreek's picture

One of the really nice

One of the really nice things about coming to grips with reality is that religion no longer has the power to scare me with the supernatural nonexistant.

What a relief that was...and still is.

JaHu's picture

Scare tactics such as this,

Scare tactics such as this, makes me wonder, is their fear of Satan stronger than their love of God?

talidapali's picture

Actually I think it's more like...

They love Satan because he's such a good bogeyman. Without him they wouldn't have half the punch in their arguments when they are proselytizing. They learned the politics of fear a LOOONG time ago and have been using them to bully folks ever since. I think they are actually hoping for him to be real and to pop up one day and announce that he's HEEEEERRRRREEEEE...

They use him as a cudgel to get folks into line with their agenda and keep them there.

"You can't fix stupid..." ~ Ron White"
"I never said I wasn't a brat..." ~ Talidapali

Terry Troll's picture

A really, really obscure historical comment.

No chance Bush is coming to speak huh? I might have made the trip back to speak out against the war.

R. Neal's picture

Obscure historical

Obscure historical reference:


WhitesCreek's picture

Wow, man

Thanks for that.

Oh, Wow...

Pam Strickland's picture

That was wild. Al Minor is

That was wild. Al Minor is retired now, and hangs out at my church. Great to read about his earlier life.

And the rest was, well, amazing.

Pam Strickland

"We are what we pretend to be, so we must be careful about what we pretend to be." ~Kurt Vonnegut

reform4's picture

One of my favorite people

Have Al tell you about his early years as a Marine, and a story from his early days about the "alter call." Al is really an amazing guy.

Fighting for Reform and Representation, Fourth District
Steve Drevik, Commission Seat 4-B

Pam Strickland's picture

He's got some great stories,

He's got some great stories, that's for sure. I don't think I've heard about the "alter call," but he told a funny story a month or so ago about an experience a young child of his acquaintance had at a local Baptist church.

Pam Strickland

"We are what we pretend to be, so we must be careful about what we pretend to be." ~Kurt Vonnegut

R. Neal's picture

The Ken Newton mentioned in

The Ken Newton mentioned in the article is bizgrrl's late father. The Charlie Reynolds mentioned is Glenn Reynolds/Instapundit's father.

Rachel's picture

I've always thought that

I've always thought that Charlie Reynolds's politics explained a lot about Glenn. How do you rebel against a dad like that? You become Instapundit.

gonzone's picture

Tortured analogy

The Franklin doesn't fall far from the William Graham when it comes to politics and public promotions.

"When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro."
Hunter S. Thompson

Average Guy's picture

Problem is, these folks are running our government

This same logic that certain churches use is the same logic the Bush "dead enders" are buying:

Hell/Terror + Give me 10%/ Give me civil liberties = salvation.

RayCapps's picture

Negative Advertising:

Yeah, negative advertising... sort of like scaring the fecal matter out of folks with the most extreme worst case theoretical scenarios of global climate change. When promoting something, you do what gets attention. Cut the Jesus believers some slack on this one; it's a standard and effective advertising/publicity tool no matter what you're peddling.

Terry Troll's picture

Huge thank you to Mr. Neal

I, as I have probably mentioned, was one of those arrested that night. I had not seen this article and am very grateful that you called my attention to it. Let me make a plea:
There was a great picture taken of Carrol Bible and myself being led across the field in handcuffs; my right hand cuffed to his left and our uncuffed fist raised in the power salute. Carrol had taken an old stripped matress cover and made a pretty nifty robe from it and bootlegged in a sign that said "Let My People Go". My copy was lost many years ago in a flood. If one is still around it would please me no end to get a copy. Great thanks for the article.

R. Neal's picture

Here's an excerpt of

Here's an excerpt of something Dr. Newton wrote after the incident:

Unfortunately the political climate of this community is such that even nonviolent dissent results in irrational repression. Unfortunately those who desire peace are considered criminals and those who desire war are considered saviors. Unfortunately those who desire change are considered dangerous and those who support the status quo are considered safe leaders. Unfortunately those who do not want to blindly follow their leaders to total destruction are considered irrational while those who follow unquestionably are considered sane.


Those who seek to maintain "control" through the use of "law and order" have made statements indicating their concern for a communistic plot, sexual orgies, and "pollution of the academic environment." Those who disagree are accused of being unAmerican, disloyal to the University as well as dirty, unkempt, immoral, spoiled, lazy, and are frequently told if you don't love it you should leave it. Yet those who claim to be defenders of the country and of the University utilize tactics which can only destroy both the democratic process of the country and the educational endeavors of the University. Those who continue to believe that an education consists of textbooks and lectures can only be concerned with the building of things rather than the building of a people. The survival of our campus, of our country and indeed of the world demands the building of a people and even, perhaps, the devaluation of things.

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