Wed
Sep 1 2010
10:38:am

Over at Metro Pulse, Jessee Fox Mayshark has an interesting look at the intersection of journalism, public figures, and Facebook and some of the ethical questions it raises.

As you may recall, I recently announced without much drama that I was canceling my Facebook account and "opting out of the future of the internets where my personal information is a commodity." I also find the whole "friending" thing a little weird. Apparently a lot of people I have never heard of want to "friend" me and me them. I guess your number of Facebook "friends" and Twitter "followers" is a measure of worth nowdays.

As an early adopter of "blogging," I find it interesting and maybe a little sad that "the internet" now means Facebook and Twitter. Personally, I believe that blogs, now apparently obsolete, played an important role in widening the conversation and offering more diverse points of view. I honestly don't see how Facebook contributes to that. It all seems so shallow and, well, "social." Maybe I'm too serious. I'm definitely anti-social. And the constant marketing and PR and opt-ins and opt-outs and security tweaking and applications wanting to access my data are all just too much for me.

Twitter is a little more useful for finding links to content of interest through the real-time filter of amateur editors. (And those links typically lead to a mainstream media or blog site where actual content is still being produced.) But honestly, I don't need to know and certainly don't care where someone went for lunch or that the coffee machine in their office is broken. But I guess there's not a whole lot more you can say in 140 characters.

Anyway, all of this brings to mind a book I read recently. It's a novel by a Jewish Russian immigrant called Super Sad True Love Story: A Novel that lays out a dystopian view of New York City in the no-so-distant future. (It's probably not everyone's cup of tea so I'm not necessarily recommending it, but I enjoyed it.)

In the author's projection of the future based on his view of our current path, the Secretary of Defense has taken over and established martial law, policy is directed by corporate oligarchies such as AlliedWasteCVSCitgroupCredit, the dollar is pegged to the Chinese yuan and if you're retirement account is not in yuan you risk being pegged as a low net worth individual subject to "Harm Reduction" relocation or worse. The only TV networks are FoxLiberty-Prime and FoxLiberty-Ultra.

One of the more fascinating aspects of the author's future, though, is the "apparat" that everyone wears. It has replaced the PC, the smartphone, the telephone, etc. People communicate by using it to send text messages on "GlobalTeen" (a Facebook-style service). They rarely talk and when they do it's called "verbaling." The texting is sub-literate and the spelling and grammar are atrocious.

Your apparat also emits everything about you in a continuous stream of data, including your credit score, your cholesterol level, your sexual desirability (they use a different term) and more. When you walk into a room full of other people you are instantly ranked as the 12th most attractive in the room, the third most wealthy, etc. on everyone else's apparat. When you walk down the street or through a shopping mall, "credit poles" announce your credit score. Hawkers offer you more credit if it's good and store clerks ignore you if it isn't. (Does Foursquare or whatever the hell it is ring a bell?)

And all of it is monitored 7/24/365 by the government.

While some of the scenes and dialogue made me LOL, it's a frightening view of where we're headed and I don't want any part of it. And if you found this article by way of our automated Twitter tweetbot, I apologize for the lack of brevity (but not for the irony).

OK, then.

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Jack Lail's picture

Facebook, Twitter, blogs

And you didn't even mention foursquare.com, whose suggestions to its users to tie updates from it to Facebook and Twitter may be the Trojan horse that brings the death of both of those services. (If I want to see their foursquare updates, I'll look on foursquare, thank you.)

A friend commented at lunch yesterday that Facebook does everything AOL did in the 90's only with broadband speed.

Think about that. It's true. And look what happened to it.

-- jack lail

R. Neal's picture

Actually, I did mention

Actually, I did mention Foursquare, and I agree with your sentiment. Further, I find it fundamentally creepy, too. That's an interesting analogy about AOL.

Andy Axel's picture

Dunno. From what I recall

Dunno. From what I recall about AOL, their model was fundamentally more about being a retail access portal with a side business in content. (I still remember beta-testing the first 9600 baud SprintNet nodes and getting really worked up about the X.25 PAD that was wired to the Chicago Tribune so that a scant group of temps - me included - could reformat the EDIT-5 text feed of the Trib so that people could read it online in near-real time. At least as fast as a Word 2.0 macro could process box scores as flat text on an IBM 386, that is.)

Once dial was no longer king, AOL wound up rudderless. Took them half of forever to get their Internet gateway functioning, too. CompuServe was waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay ahead of them on that one. AOL was much more of a closed community until that happened, but I will agree that broadband was essentially the end of them.

R. Neal's picture

To me, the analogy is that

To me, the analogy is that AOL was in the access (dialup) business. They gave non-technical people an easier way to access content. Broadband and HTTP made that obsolete.

Now, Facebook is giving non-technical people an easier way to go beyond consuming content to publishing content. People who before couldn't figure out even the relatively simple blogger.com can now be "on the internet" in a flash.

It's lowered the barriers of entry to online publishing. And unfortunately the value (and quality) of content.

Your personal data, however, apparently has immense value. Or else the Facebook model is doomed.

CE Petro's picture

A little history of AOL's demise and blogging & FB

I freely admit that I am teetering on the edge of being a FB junkie, but I actually have a love/hate relationship with it. There are a lot of folks I'm "friends" with that share a passion for parchment crafting, and because there are few folks in the US that know about, or want to take the time to work on this art (it's not instant gratification), I go where the people are for support and information. I watch for FB changes, and make sure that with each change I tweak my privacy settings. And ad blocker is always on. Those ads can try chasing me all over the net but I'll never see them!

As for AOL, years ago, I was an AOL (AOHell) Host, dropping out of hosting duties when they started disengaging with their partners (i.e. the pets area was once brought to AOL users by VIN -- Veterinary Information Network), to provide their own "content". Some of the communities on AOL were actually started by individuals (here I'm thinking of the Homeschool Community, which was eclectic, diverse, NON-religious, and 15+ years ago one of the premier sources of information including lesson plans), who spent thousands of hours and dollars building these communities. There were a lot of niche communities on AOL, and in the beginning years, regular folks were (somewhat) encouraged to create and start communities for their favorite topic. It brought folks into the online world, at an hourly rate.

But, AOL's demise is not just tied the emergence of broadband. AOL's demise is also tied to their bottom line and their choices to increase their bottom line. At one point, in the earlier years of AOL, one rarely found ads on pages within communities if at all. In fact, I don't remember ads within communities back in the early days of AOL, when you paid hourly. Once AOL went to a base fee of $23 per month, they started losing money. So they looked to ads to increase their bottom line. Then, they decided that they would take over and run the communities that had been started by small groups and individuals. (perhaps that was the other way around, I've slept a few hours since then) The last major step was to disengage with partners, most rather abruptly (i.e. 30 days notice). (As a side note, I believe that communities was a way for AOL to compete with CompuServe back then?)

As these steps were taken, there were a lot of revolts by users within these small specialized communities. For example, someone homeschooling would be inundated with ads from fear-mongering, religiously based H$LDA, as they were looking for science lessons. Sorry, AOL, but that crap didn't fly for a lot of folks, and they left. Of course, that was after AOL threw out/banned the folks that started these communities in the first place (as they were banned, folks followed them out into the net). While a few thousand folks leaving AOL in one community was a drop in the bucket, start adding up those few thousand people in hundreds of small communities, and, well, that's a lot of people that were very dissatisfied with the changes, and turned to using AOL as simply access to the net, if they stayed with AOL.

FB & Blogs: I've run into an interesting situation. As I said above, the main reason I'm on FB is to connect with others that have a passion for parchment crafting. A lot of these women (and a few men, but mostly women) are at least 65 years old. Many that are online can be found at one of only two message board forums or on various yahoo groups, but have been migrating to FB. Now, almost 2 years ago I had started a blog that is completely dedicated to parchment crafting -- but didn't touch it for about a year. When I went back to it earlier this year, one of the gals I had met in a yahoo group for the art, finally commented on one of my blog posts that she rarely "accesses blogs because she doesn't trust them." She'll share all sorts of personal information on FB, but doesn't trust blogs. Go figure!

bizgrrl's picture

TLDNR

TLDNR

gonzone's picture

Heh

Friends don't let friends Facebook.

Russ's picture

I agree with this, in

I agree with this, in part. The modern nonchalance toward online privacy is separate from the modern desire for the short, the simple, and the banal. Those are two completely separate issues. I agree that the cavalier attitude toward privacy is ominous, but the second issue is not necessarily relevant for sites such as this.

I'm not on Facebook and never have been, but I've found Twitter to be an invaluable tool. It's not a substitute for actual news sites or blogs (such as this one) where relevant issues are discussed in depth. Instead, Twitter's purpose (at least for me) is entirely irrelevant to news sites and blogs; it's about connecting with people, finding things rapidly, sharing short little snippets or links, venting, and documenting one's life. In my opinion, that has no bearing whatsoever on the question of whether blogs or news sites are still relevant. They are and will be.

Twitter and the rest of the Web are not mutually exclusive.

Sure, blogs like this one have lost traffic to Facebook over the last few years, but is that really important? The traffic you've lost consists of people who are spending those same hours sharing photos and playing Farmville (or whatever the hell it's called). It's not like you and other sites have lost traffic to something that pretends to take your place.

If traffic to news sites and blogs had been lost to people suddenly developing a compulsion to work crossword puzzles for seven hours a day, would the implications be any different?

I guess my main critique of this post is the implicit assumption that Facebook and Twitter have caused people to care less about substance and to care more about being "followed" or "liked." I don't think that's the case. I think they've simply found a new distraction. Those of us who care about substance will continue to find it in the same places we always have. (I don't really give a crap how many Twitter followers I have, but I do care about the quality of the content provided by the people I choose to follow. Those two things have nothing to do with each other.)

I maintained a blog for a couple of years, but I stopped it when it became too much of a chore. My main online presence is now Twitter, precisely because it isn't a chore and it supplements the information feed I get from other sources. Sure, I tweet about lunch, the coffee machine, traffic, and random personal crap, but I also use it to share things that are at least momentarily important. That doesn't mean other communication platforms are cast aside as a result.

R. Neal's picture

Good counterpoint, Russ. And

Good counterpoint, Russ. And good point about the migration to Facebook. I guess one problem with Twitter is if you follow too many feeds. Maybe only following people you actually know and want to keep up with makes more sense.

P.S. You really ought to resurrect your blog!

smalc's picture

I find the attitude toward

I find the attitude toward privacy somewhat puzzling. There was a big uproar on FB a few months ago about a website that aggregated all your personal information available on the web into one place. People were livid, but all that information was out there in different places. At the same time, they have no problem posting the details of their colonoscopy, family feuds, their exact location at all times, etc.

AOL WAS the internet for a lot (most?) of AOLers well into the late 1990s. I think at least most FBers are aware of a wider internet outside of FB. I never was much of a AOL fan, and quickly dropped it after being introduced to the WWW in 1995. (by a GNU/Gopher manual toting UT grad student who insisted the web should be all text)

R. Neal's picture

At the same time, they have

At the same time, they have no problem posting the details of their colonoscopy, family feuds, their exact location at all times, etc.

Another good point. I've spoken to UT students about this before. Younger generations seem to have no problem with living out loud on the internet and giving away all their personal information. They have to be cautioned to be careful, because some of that stuff might come up in a job interview some day. Facebook may have pushed that phenomenon up into older age groups.

And it's not just on the internet. I always hold out grocery store discount/loyalty cards as exhibit A. Some database at Kroger is tracking every purchase and creating a very detailed and valuable profile about you.

And don't get me started on companies like ChoicePoint.

There oughtta be a law, but what it really comes down to is people need to value their privacy and protect it. It has a monetary value to those who compile it. Consumers who want to voluntarily give it away should wise up to that and get paid.

But I guess that's what the "loyalty cards" and such are all about. You get a few cents off and the aggregator sells your data over and over again for hundreds or thousands of cumulative dollars.

Rachel's picture

I always hold out grocery

I always hold out grocery store discount/loyalty cards as exhibit A. Some database at Kroger is tracking every purchase and creating a very detailed and valuable profile about you.

I've always refused to get a card until somebody gave me theirs. So now I get the discount and she gets tracked.

BoB W.'s picture

Bread

Am I missing something here, or is the issue that you really are concerned that data miners might discover what kind of bread that you eat? By offering discounts on your purchases, they in effect are paying for the use of that info. Of course that info is sold as many times as possible, but as for my bread ($), I'd rather be spending considerably less (in my opinion) on groceries. Also I find that the $8 I save on every tank of gas is substantial. Maybe you could bring me up to speed on this one.

R. Neal's picture

Mined Consumer Purchasing

BoB W.'s picture

Food

...for thought.

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