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Dec 15 2014
09:35 am
By: stalwartdem
DEAL OR NO DEAL! on #MedicaidExpansion
Bill answers at 11am today
Edit: Presser not until 11am today, so I jumped the gun. sorry
UPDATE: Ok, NOW we're official...Habemus Pactum (we have an agreement)
Program called Insure Tennessee. Gov will call special session of Legislature to consider..
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If true, why couldn't this
If true, why couldn't this have happened a year ago?
Live coverage... (link...)
Live coverage...
(link...)
Vouchers, two year pilot,
Vouchers, two year pilot, tentative verbal approval from HHS, drafting legislation, special session will be called next year.
Official presser....Haslam
Official presser....
Haslam Announces Insure Tennessee Plan
Five key areas of the governor’s plan include:
A fiscally sound and sustainable program;
Providing two new private market choices for Tennesseans;
Shifting the delivery model and payment of health care in Tennessee from fee-for-service to outcomes based;
Incentivizing Tennesseans to be more engaged and to take more personal responsibility in their health;
And preparing participants for eventual transition to commercial health coverage.
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Insure Tennessee offers several options of coverage for individuals below 138 percent of poverty ($16,100 for an individual and $27,300 for a family of three). Tennesseans 21 to 64 years old will be offered a choice of the Healthy Incentives Plan or the Volunteer Plan.
The Volunteer Plan would provide a health insurance voucher to participants that would be used to participate in their employer’s health insurance plan. The voucher, valued at slightly less than the average TennCare per-enrollee cost, can be used to pay for premiums and other out-of-pocket expenses associated with participation in an individual’s employer sponsored private market plan.
Participants in the Healthy Incentives Plan may choose to receive coverage through a redesigned component of the TennCare program, which would introduce Healthy Incentives for Tennesseans (HIT) accounts, modeled after Health Reimbursement Accounts (HRAs), which can be used to pay for a portion of required member cost-sharing.
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The voucher program provides a fixed contribution that can be applied to the costs of a person’s private market plan. All costs incurred in excess of the amount of the voucher are the responsibility of the participant. This structure empowers individuals to make a choice about which plan is better for their needs and to manage their health care expenses to avoid additional costs.
Newly eligible individuals who choose to participate in the TennCare program and whose incomes are above 100 percent of poverty will be required to pay premiums and copays for services. All enrollees, including those with incomes below poverty, will have modest pharmacy copays. TennCare members “earn” contributions into their HIT accounts by performing healthy behaviors. The account then can be used to cover copayment expenses.
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The program will not create any new taxes for Tennesseans and will not add any state cost to the budget. The Tennessee Hospital Association has committed that the industry will cover any additional cost to the state. The program will automatically terminate in the event that either federal funding or support from the hospitals is modified in any way.
Shifting the delivery model
(in reply to R. Neal)
How so?
Not clear.
(in reply to Brian A.)
Not clear.
Outcome based
(in reply to R. Neal)
If you get sick beyond the limit of your voucher you can't see the doctor anymore and you die.
That's the outcome.
Haslam and Ramsey keep
Haslam and Ramsey keep talking about "personal responsibility." What if you get hit by a bus? Get the flu? Are born with a genetic defect? Etc. etc.
Here is a graphic which explains the program
(link...)
otherwise known as: Don't Get
otherwise known as: Don't Get Sick
Outcome based
What it means is that after working 90 hours at minimum wage you're expected to put on your cute little running outfit and spend 1 1/2 hours a day briskly walking around the Lakeshore track , then go over to Fresh Market browse through the seasonal vegetables, pick up whatever looks good to go with your fresh wild salmon that day and go home and whip up a protein and low carb meal for your family, because, well, that's just how people live in the Governors world.
Life threatening care
You are saying that Haslam has the power to override Federal laws requiring treatment for life threatening situations.
I'm sure there are valid criticisms, but I am disturbed by your assertions that an individual below $16,000 income deserves better health insurance than the rest of us.
If you get hit by a bus the bus company will most likely pay. If you get the flu you use your voucher to visit the doctor or go to the health department, and hopefully remember to get your flu shot next year. If you have a serious genetic defect, you will no longer be limited by a lifetime cap.
It feels like you all are upset by the rhetoric of "personal responsibility". Don't you realize Ramsey needs to use this language to get it through the legislature. And what's so wrong about personal responsibility anyway?
I think outcome based means a flat fee for seeing a patient. It may not be a workable model but it ain't what you describe, Bob.
If we really wanted to impact nutritional based health changes we'd disallow food stamps for junk food. But we won't because of the agribiz & food processing lobby.
Nothing is wrong with
(in reply to Up Goose Creek)
Nothing is wrong with personal responsibility. But let me give you a particular case.
53 year old man. In great health; takes one prescription med - for migraines, only when needed. Rides bicycle practically everywhere for transportation. Take a 50 mile ride every Sunday. Works out at least once a week. Eats healthy. Doesn't smoke.
Finds out he has genetic heart defect requiring surgery to keep from having his aorta blow out. Surgery/hospital/doctors costs hundreds of thousands of $$$.
After the surgery he has to take blood thinners for the rest of his life and have the lab check his clotting levels every month, which ain't cheap.
You guys have already figured out that this is my spouse. He's a model of "personal responsibility," but he still ran up huge medical bills.
Of course we were lucky enough to have good health insurance with a low out-of-pocket maximum, and the cost didn't break us. But should somebody who doesn't have to forego the surgery or go bankrupt to cover it?
I don't want to live in a society like that.
P.S. Kudos to the governor for developing something that he can get the legislature to pass. But it would have been so much easier - and probably cheaper and more effective - to have just taken the gol-darned Medicaid expansion in the first place.
To be fair
(in reply to Up Goose Creek)
I'm pretty sure, based on the governors comments over the past few years, that outcome based falls somewhere between my explanation and yours, though clearly yours will become more relevant simply because it is the trackable cost point. My point was that the governor is clueless as to the type society he is creating and I only hope Volkswagen officials can turn around the working class model in this state before Haslam starves them out of existence.
As to the 90 hour work week, there's lots of folks participating. They just upped ROAD HOURS for tractor trailer drivers to 80 a week. There goes your decline in auto deaths.
Ramsey: Governor Haslam has
Ramsey: Governor Haslam has negotiated a deal which returns tax dollars back to Tennessee while using conservative principles to bring health insurance to more Tennesseans.
Cause there's nothing more conservative than taking $$ from the Feds.
Outcomes based
Outcomes based is how the state will calculate payment to the providers. There will be someone collecting data from them showing that they are working to keep their patients healthier. It has been a while since I was actively involved in this area, but it has to do with a number of quality or outcome data points that must be met. For instance, a diabetic patient is tested for their A1C levels once a year. Or it could be as simple as weight loss or high B/P controlled. All insurance companies now do this kind of monitoring of primary care doctors.
This brings up another concern I have about this new program.
This plan is creating more work for an already broken TennCare office. I have not scoured the information released to find the targeted start date if it is approved by feds and the state legislature, but there will certainly need to be time for the TennCare office to figure out how to make all this happen. Add to this the new payment system in my first paragraph. Sounds like a few new people may be needed to make all this work.
Didn't we see that Haslam is asking for budget cuts for the TennCare office? Will some of the Medicaid expansion $$ go to new TennCare staff? How about the need for a new computer system?
Don't get me wrong, I am all for something for those that should be Medicaid eligible, but I just doubt the TennCare folks to be able to implement it.
not to mention..
(in reply to B Harmon)
actually publicizing and promoting it. I can see how this will go: no promotion,not enough people to administer it, nobody knows about it, no one signs up, two years up: oh, it didnt work, we take it down...which is precisely what they want to happen.
Such creative thinking
Vouchers = universal GOP policy coverage