Wed
Apr 24 2019
08:45 am

In a narrow vote, the state House passed a bill setting up school vouchers. From what I gather, Gov. Lee and Speaker Casada cajoled, strong armed, threatened and bribed house members to get it passed.

Rural representatives were told they'd get money for road projects and such if they went along, otherwise they were on their own. Casada told Republicans he'd have their back. There was also an offer of a taxpayer funded trip to Israel that may or may not be related.

Knoxville Rep. Jason Zachary flipped to cast the deciding vote after getting pulled aside by Casada. Apparently, Zachary agreed to vote for the bill if it excluded Knox County. The bill he voted to pass still includes Knox County.

Rep. Gloria Johnson (an actual educator) held her hand up for an hour seeking to be recognized. She was ignored.

U.S. Secretary of Education Betsy DeVos sent a congratulatory tweet to Gov. Lee for his accomplishment.

So now the Senate will take up a different version of the bill. If that passes, it will go back to the House for reconciliation.

fischbobber's picture

O.K. So the kid takes a voucher.......

About half the schools accepting vouchers in Knoxville are going to teach them that God is in charge of social programs, the earth is six thousand years old, christian socialism is bad, but christian capitalism, where you ignore the needs of your fellow man and allow him to pull himself up by his bootstraps to pay that 250,000 dollar emergency room bill for a broken leg, is good and that there is no such thing as evolution so children don't need vaccinations.

Meanwhile, the governor can't even keep up with keeping the interstates repaired and free of potholes.

Am I the only one that sees the problem here?

I shouldn't pay for someone else's religion with my tax dollars. Especially if I don't believe what they believe.

DCROSS1968's picture

School Choice

I think competition would be great for public schools unless you work for them. As a taxpayer I should have a choice if I want to take my child out of a failing school and I don't have a child in school. Maybe competition will force public schools to get their act together. And as far as paying for things I don't agree with, with my tax dollars, I agree 100%. Planned Parenthood is a good example of that or sending billions of $$$ to other countries. As for the broken leg It's hard to imagine a $250,000 bill for that.

R. Neal's picture

Ok, well, thanks for sharing.

Ok, well, thanks for sharing.

fischbobber's picture

R. Neal is much nicer than me.

You're an idiot who can't back up a single word of what you say with actual facts.

Edit: You already have the right you demand. It's not my job as a taxpayer, however, to finance your child because you don't want to get up off your lazy ass and make your childs school better.

Mike Daugherty's picture

The voucher plan will take

The voucher plan will take much needed funds from public education. Many of the people that support vouchers are misguided and do not know the facts. Others that support vouchers would love to destroy public education in the United States and let corporations make a fortune from taxpayer dollars. Knox County Schools is getting a pretty good bang for every dollar they spend. Webb and most other private schools in the state that provide a quality education charge a tuition that is double or triple what is spent per student in public schools. Tests scores from many public schools compare favorably to Webb and other private schools that charge high tuitions. There is no way low income families can supplement the $7,500 voucher payment and make up the difference in money it would take to go to Webb or another quality private school. Most private schools with lower tuitions, whether it be a religious school or secular do not have the resources to provide a quality education for students. For wealthy families the voucher money provides and extra European vacation each year at the expense of public education. For most Tennessee children, vouchers will mean larger class sizes and the loss of essential school staff and other resources.

fischbobber's picture

Actually

Many local religious schools have set their tuition right around 7500.00$. It just depends on whether or not one views indoctrination as equal to education.

Mike Daugherty's picture

Exactly, that will make those

Exactly, that will make those "religious" schools a perfect fit for a misguided parent who does not have an extra dime to pay for a really good private school that would actually give their child a quality education. They will take the $7,500 and run to an inferior private school that's main priority is religious indoctrination. Tennessee ranks near the bottom in public education spending per student. The voucher plan proposed by Governor Lee will drain funds from public education and make Tennessee a competitor in the race for last place among states.

R. Neal's picture

Trump approves! (link...)

Trump approves!

(link...)

DCROSS1968's picture

Voucher

Well if you had read my response you would see that I don't have kids in school. You talk like every other typical liberal I have had tried to have a conversation with. It's ok I guess to spend tax payers money on useless projects that you like, right? Don't disagree with you because if you do the other person is stupid right? Your the intelligent one right? LMAO....

fischbobber's picture

Well, it's pretty clear you don't know what the hell you're talk

Knox County schools has about the most liberal transfer policy a public school system could have. If you have a legitimate reason for a transfer, and you provide transportation, or if your child has any variety of special needs then Knox County schools with rare exception, will accommodate those needs. Fiscal competition does not work in school systems because the costs of different children vary so widely. Charter schools want all the non-discipline problem , smart children, and then they undereducated them , often using draconian educational techniques that do more harm than good, all on the public dime. That's not competition, yet people like you pretend that it is.

Only idiot republicans would refer to public education as a useless project. If you want your opinion respected, bring an informed, intelligent one to the table.

Tamara Shepherd's picture

And Senate passes vouchers, too.

When's that press conference at which Gov. Lee will explain to his red meat supporters why their tax dollars will be funding three Islamic schools in Nashville and Memphis?

I wanna have my popcorn ready...

Tamara Shepherd's picture

And Senate passes vouchers, too.

When's that press conference at which Gov. Lee will explain to his red meat supporters why their tax dollars will be funding three Islamic schools in Nashville and Memphis?

I wanna have my popcorn ready...

Tamara Shepherd's picture

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(Apologies for dbl-post. Guess I'm pretty pissed.)

R. Neal's picture

Even worse, the senate

Even worse, the senate version includes home schooling.

R. Neal's picture

This just in: legislators

This just in: legislators have snuck in a provision prohibiting counties and their school boards from suing over the illegality or constitutionality of the voucher bill.

LOL. The TNGOP and the governoer now consider themselves above the law and the Constitution!

Knoxoasis's picture

Actually no. The powers of

Actually no. The powers of school boards and counties are defined by the Legislature, so if wishes to prohibit those bodies from filing such suits it may.

R. Neal's picture

Sounds familiar... (link...)

Sounds familiar...

(link...)

fischbobber's picture

If you want to see weird.......

Get on an anti-common core facebook page. The SPEAK page for Knox County (I hope I got the acronym right)sticks pretty much to county related issues, but there are others that provide disturbing insight into what some people think. There's some pretty hopeful stuff as well, and rarely do those participating pull punches when debating the two viewpoints.

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